Parents of Oxford school shooter Ethan Crumbley: We never thought our son needed therapy

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Tresa Baldas
Detroit Free Press
November 16, 2022

During his freshman year in high school, Ethan Crumbley texted his mom and friend that he was hallucinating, hearing voices and seeing demons.

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"The Crumbleys maintain that they did not have any reason to believe that the shooter had mental health concerns that would necessitate mental health treatment," defense lawyers wrote in a new court filing that for the first time asserts the parents didn't believe their son needed therapy.



The Crumbleys are charged with involuntary manslaughter for, prosecutors allege, ignoring their son's mental health issues, failing to get him help and instead buying him a gun — which he used in the school shooting.

Up until now, the Crumbleys have maintained only that they properly secured the gun in a locked drawer, had no idea that their son would carry out a mass shooting and were not privy to text messages that he was sending a friend, telling him he was "mentally and physically dying."

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This is a case of criminal negligence if I ever saw one. It sounds like he should've been in intensive therapy and antipsychotic medication. That kid didn't have a chance with parents like that.

[Haggard Celine]

1. I agree.

Sometimes parents are in denial about their children's behavior. Even if they were in denial, however, they never should have bought him a gun. They're just as culpable as the kid.

[Irish_Dem]

3. Yes. Sometimes denial about a child is criminal.

In some cases, a parent who cannot face reality about their child and circumstances, loses custody of the
child or ends up in jail.

[Irish_Dem]

2. Your son is hearing voices, seeing demons and in great distress. And no need no Tx?

Often when treating children, the parents are the hardest part of the equation.
The kids are easy.

[Walleye]

6. Hearing voices is 100% sure sign of trouble and doctors care being necessary

[Irish_Dem]

7. And the fact he was self reporting a very high level of psych distress.

[Walleye]

8. And think of this. Republicans think that parents should determine with school curriculum

[Irish_Dem]

9. Yes anyone can run education, healthcare, public health, libraries, etc.

Professionals are just trained monkeys I guess.

[barbtries]

4. and yet they immediately knew it was their son

who had done the shooting that day. they should be convicted. he was begging for help.

[Jedi Guy]

5. Or more accurately...

Parents of Oxford school shooter Ethan Crumbley: "We never thought"

[Happyhippychick]

10. If I'm remembering correctly, the school also reached out to the parents because they were concerned

[WhiskeyGrinder]

11. This kid was failed in so many terrible and preventable ways, it's heartbreaking.