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There will be those that defend Garland up to and after.... (Original Post) LexVegas Nov 2022 OP
Another criminal claudette Nov 2022 #1
Its not even surprising any more. nt LexVegas Nov 2022 #2
I'm so sick of it claudette Nov 2022 #7
Anyone who thought there would ever be criminal charges was just deluding themselves. The Pisces Nov 2022 #3
I plead guilty, but that rational you just posited seemed absolute/black and white msfiddlestix Nov 2022 #30
I don't think it should be that way, but the establishment thinks and acts differently. They are not Pisces Nov 2022 #33
I gotcha now. I agree. n/t msfiddlestix Nov 2022 #35
My estimate wnylib Nov 2022 #36
my real problem with him appointing a sc is. wtf did he wait 2 years to do it. bullimiami Nov 2022 #4
So it stretches even longer into the next election cycle? LexVegas Nov 2022 #5
Why don't you ask him? Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #26
it would be a head scratcher, if they were serious about prosecuting thiis criminal msfiddlestix Nov 2022 #31
that announcement will never come..... getagrip_already Nov 2022 #6
yeppers n/t msfiddlestix Nov 2022 #32
Sadly, I can see that's the case iemanja Nov 2022 #8
Neal Katyal sees another AG that is not up to the task. nt LexVegas Nov 2022 #9
I hope he's wrong iemanja Nov 2022 #10
You have every right to be critical Biden and his AG Garland Kaleva Nov 2022 #17
I could write Biden iemanja Nov 2022 #18
I'm not telling anyone to shut up. Kaleva Nov 2022 #23
Do you take measures based on every post you make? iemanja Nov 2022 #24
Most of my posts are chit chat to pass the time away Kaleva Nov 2022 #25
While all of you try to tell us who accept that our justice system Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #27
Where did I tell you or anyone who agrees with you to shut up? iemanja Nov 2022 #29
Bookmarking for later. revmclaren Nov 2022 #11
Thank god this is a chat board that has no bearing on real life vis a vis the DoJ. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2022 #12
Obviously it doesn't iemanja Nov 2022 #19
I never said otherwise. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2022 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2022 #13
K&R Emile Nov 2022 #14
fancy that, defending the Democratic administration's AG bigtree Nov 2022 #15
+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2022 #21
I trust Biden and his AG Garland to do what's best. Some here don't Kaleva Nov 2022 #16
+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2022 #22
To an extent, I'm in this camp. Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #28
If Garland were gonna just drop it, then he would. Kennah Nov 2022 #34
+1. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2022 #38
When tRump is indicted, people will say he won't be convicted Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2022 #37

claudette

(3,604 posts)
7. I'm so sick of it
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 03:19 PM
Nov 2022

And just wait until you see how magats crucify Hunter Biden who is an angel compared to the orange traitor

Pisces

(5,602 posts)
3. Anyone who thought there would ever be criminal charges was just deluding themselves. The
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 03:14 PM
Nov 2022

Presidency is too important to sully it by indicting a past president no matter what they did.

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
30. I plead guilty, but that rational you just posited seemed absolute/black and white
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 10:50 PM
Nov 2022

you don't really mean that literally do you?

Pisces

(5,602 posts)
33. I don't think it should be that way, but the establishment thinks and acts differently. They are not
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 10:55 PM
Nov 2022

Going to charge a President with treason or other felonies. The true nature of his crimes and all the secret conversations he had with dictators won’t be disclosed for many years.

wnylib

(21,630 posts)
36. My estimate
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 08:55 AM
Nov 2022

Trump will be indicted on something by June of 2023, give or take a few weeks. A grand jury has already been reviewing evidence. SC Smith will have no other responsibilities to take up his time, as Garland has. The J6 committee's final report will be completed by the end of this year.

J6 investigations are more complex than the MAL documents, so I expect the MAL indictment to be the first.

Then there's also Georgia.

bullimiami

(13,105 posts)
4. my real problem with him appointing a sc is. wtf did he wait 2 years to do it.
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 03:15 PM
Nov 2022

and he should have appointed many of them to handle each of the multiple cases of lawlessness in trumps administration and in congress.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
26. Why don't you ask him?
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 09:59 PM
Nov 2022

There can be lots of reasons for not pursuing a special prosecutor right away--scope of the investigation, belated discovery of ongoing criminal conduct, and so on.

I don't presume to be smart enough to know what those reasons were in this instance because I'm not an attorney, never mind the kind who could qualify as an Attorney General. If I wanted to know badly enough, I'd ask the person who made the call.

Here's how to contact him:

https://www.justice.gov/contact-us

getagrip_already

(14,864 posts)
6. that announcement will never come.....
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 03:18 PM
Nov 2022

They won't issue a declination statement. They will just fold the tent and leave in the middle of the night.

A special council will issue a final report, but it doesn't have to be made public.

The only way will know anything is happening is when something is filed in court.

iemanja

(53,072 posts)
8. Sadly, I can see that's the case
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 04:21 PM
Nov 2022

I was actually told I had no right to voice any criticism toward Garland, that I should vote for a Republican if I didn't like it.

iemanja

(53,072 posts)
10. I hope he's wrong
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 06:44 PM
Nov 2022

Being a prosecutor at the Hague sounds like a good qualification. That doesn't make me happy about the move, however.

Kaleva

(36,355 posts)
17. You have every right to be critical Biden and his AG Garland
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 09:02 PM
Nov 2022

But other then expressing your opinion on social media, what are you going to do about it?

iemanja

(53,072 posts)
18. I could write Biden
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 09:18 PM
Nov 2022

but other than that, nothing. What are Garlan's fans going to do other than tell the rest of us to shut up? Is that some great contribution to humanity?

We're on a discussion board. The point is to discuss.

Kaleva

(36,355 posts)
23. I'm not telling anyone to shut up.
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 09:40 PM
Nov 2022

I do ask them if what they think is enough to motivate them to take action of some sort. If it isn't, then the issue is of little to no importance.

iemanja

(53,072 posts)
24. Do you take measures based on every post you make?
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 09:43 PM
Nov 2022

Because that would be very unusual. If you don't, does that make your posts of little to no importance?

Kaleva

(36,355 posts)
25. Most of my posts are chit chat to pass the time away
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 09:51 PM
Nov 2022

In the end, it doesn't matter what I think on quite a few subjects.

I do take climate change seriously and do spend a great deal of time preparing to adapt to what is coming. I'll often post here at DU what efforts and progress I'm making

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
27. While all of you try to tell us who accept that our justice system
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 10:09 PM
Nov 2022

is slow and mostly sucks to shut up.

You're expecting miracles of a process that has never worked at lightning speed.

Why be surprised now when it works like it always has?

I'd hate for you to be the victim of a crime being investigated and overseen by the Feds. You would have lost your mind from the mind-numbing process of it all. Makes me wonder if I have super-powers to have endured it for 18 months as a mere 18 (& eventually 19) y/o.

Except I don't have super-powers. I merely got a learning experience in how true it turned out to be that, sometimes, you can't fight City Hall (or, in this case, the federal judicial system). It was what it was, and thinking I could change that did me no good.

iemanja

(53,072 posts)
29. Where did I tell you or anyone who agrees with you to shut up?
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 10:46 PM
Nov 2022

Nowhere, though I have been told that myself. I have no interest in that kind of dishonest debate.

iemanja

(53,072 posts)
19. Obviously it doesn't
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 09:20 PM
Nov 2022

but people can express their views on this as much as anything else. It's not like anything we say impacts politics off this board.

Response to LexVegas (Original post)

bigtree

(86,006 posts)
15. fancy that, defending the Democratic administration's AG
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 08:48 PM
Nov 2022

...instead of treating him like an adversary.

That's the weirdness of these attacks on Garland. It's essentially attacking the president who appointed him, and who still, presumably, has confidence in his AG.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
28. To an extent, I'm in this camp.
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 10:11 PM
Nov 2022

Mostly, though, I'm in the cynic camp of seeing the judicial system moving at its usual glacial pace, yet again.

I learned the hard way never to expect anything to be done quickly with them. You never forget that lesson.

Kennah

(14,323 posts)
34. If Garland were gonna just drop it, then he would.
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 10:58 PM
Nov 2022

This signals that Garland believes charges against Trump are unavoidable. This almost takes the decision out of Garland's hands. If there's there there, then the SC will recommend charges. Garland can only overrule the SC if there are procedural issues.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
37. When tRump is indicted, people will say he won't be convicted
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:10 AM
Nov 2022

When tRump is convicted, people will say he won't get jail time.

When tRump is jailed, people will say he's at Club Fed living it up.

When tRump dies, people will say it's fake news.

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