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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere will be those that defend Garland up to and after....
it is announced that there will be no criminal charges against Trump.
Unlike criminal charges against Trump, that much you can bank on.
claudette
(3,604 posts)Will go free
LexVegas
(6,107 posts)claudette
(3,604 posts)And just wait until you see how magats crucify Hunter Biden who is an angel compared to the orange traitor
Pisces
(5,602 posts)Presidency is too important to sully it by indicting a past president no matter what they did.
msfiddlestix
(7,286 posts)you don't really mean that literally do you?
Pisces
(5,602 posts)Going to charge a President with treason or other felonies. The true nature of his crimes and all the secret conversations he had with dictators wont be disclosed for many years.
msfiddlestix
(7,286 posts)wnylib
(21,630 posts)Trump will be indicted on something by June of 2023, give or take a few weeks. A grand jury has already been reviewing evidence. SC Smith will have no other responsibilities to take up his time, as Garland has. The J6 committee's final report will be completed by the end of this year.
J6 investigations are more complex than the MAL documents, so I expect the MAL indictment to be the first.
Then there's also Georgia.
bullimiami
(13,105 posts)and he should have appointed many of them to handle each of the multiple cases of lawlessness in trumps administration and in congress.
LexVegas
(6,107 posts)Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)There can be lots of reasons for not pursuing a special prosecutor right away--scope of the investigation, belated discovery of ongoing criminal conduct, and so on.
I don't presume to be smart enough to know what those reasons were in this instance because I'm not an attorney, never mind the kind who could qualify as an Attorney General. If I wanted to know badly enough, I'd ask the person who made the call.
Here's how to contact him:
https://www.justice.gov/contact-us
msfiddlestix
(7,286 posts)getagrip_already
(14,864 posts)They won't issue a declination statement. They will just fold the tent and leave in the middle of the night.
A special council will issue a final report, but it doesn't have to be made public.
The only way will know anything is happening is when something is filed in court.
msfiddlestix
(7,286 posts)iemanja
(53,072 posts)I was actually told I had no right to voice any criticism toward Garland, that I should vote for a Republican if I didn't like it.
LexVegas
(6,107 posts)iemanja
(53,072 posts)Being a prosecutor at the Hague sounds like a good qualification. That doesn't make me happy about the move, however.
Kaleva
(36,355 posts)But other then expressing your opinion on social media, what are you going to do about it?
iemanja
(53,072 posts)but other than that, nothing. What are Garlan's fans going to do other than tell the rest of us to shut up? Is that some great contribution to humanity?
We're on a discussion board. The point is to discuss.
Kaleva
(36,355 posts)I do ask them if what they think is enough to motivate them to take action of some sort. If it isn't, then the issue is of little to no importance.
iemanja
(53,072 posts)Because that would be very unusual. If you don't, does that make your posts of little to no importance?
Kaleva
(36,355 posts)In the end, it doesn't matter what I think on quite a few subjects.
I do take climate change seriously and do spend a great deal of time preparing to adapt to what is coming. I'll often post here at DU what efforts and progress I'm making
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)is slow and mostly sucks to shut up.
You're expecting miracles of a process that has never worked at lightning speed.
Why be surprised now when it works like it always has?
I'd hate for you to be the victim of a crime being investigated and overseen by the Feds. You would have lost your mind from the mind-numbing process of it all. Makes me wonder if I have super-powers to have endured it for 18 months as a mere 18 (& eventually 19) y/o.
Except I don't have super-powers. I merely got a learning experience in how true it turned out to be that, sometimes, you can't fight City Hall (or, in this case, the federal judicial system). It was what it was, and thinking I could change that did me no good.
iemanja
(53,072 posts)Nowhere, though I have been told that myself. I have no interest in that kind of dishonest debate.
revmclaren
(2,532 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,449 posts)iemanja
(53,072 posts)but people can express their views on this as much as anything else. It's not like anything we say impacts politics off this board.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,449 posts)Response to LexVegas (Original post)
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bigtree
(86,006 posts)...instead of treating him like an adversary.
That's the weirdness of these attacks on Garland. It's essentially attacking the president who appointed him, and who still, presumably, has confidence in his AG.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,449 posts)Kaleva
(36,355 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,449 posts)Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)Mostly, though, I'm in the cynic camp of seeing the judicial system moving at its usual glacial pace, yet again.
I learned the hard way never to expect anything to be done quickly with them. You never forget that lesson.
Kennah
(14,323 posts)This signals that Garland believes charges against Trump are unavoidable. This almost takes the decision out of Garland's hands. If there's there there, then the SC will recommend charges. Garland can only overrule the SC if there are procedural issues.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,047 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,047 posts)When tRump is convicted, people will say he won't get jail time.
When tRump is jailed, people will say he's at Club Fed living it up.
When tRump dies, people will say it's fake news.