Prediction--neither Trump or DeSantis will be the 2024 GOP nominee...

[First Speaker]

...we'll see in 18 months, of course. But my guess is that Trump's issues will finally reach a critical mass, even if he isn't indicted. There's just too much shit to walk thru, even for most of his MAGA idiots. As for DeSantis--the man is the definition of an empty suit. God knows, the GOP has nominated empty suits before--see Dubya. But he had his family and their whole apparatus. DeSantis is more like the GOP's Ed Muskie--a "consensus" candidate who fell apart when it became apparent there was less to him than met the eye. The support for DeSantis is wide, but an inch thick. It will crumble at the first sign of trouble. Who will win the nomination? God knows. My best guess is, a dark horse like Haley. Definitely *not* Pence, whom nobody respects...

[Chipper Chat]

1. It,ll be tRump.

He just has too much control over the base and now the House.

[at140]

3. That seems more likely.

[pnwest]

2. My money's on DeSantis.

Trump 2.0. People know trump himself is toxic now, but they see a less offensive (so far) trump replica - down to copying mannerisms - in DeSantis. They LOVE the kind of stunt he pulled sending a plane load of brown people to Martha’s Vineyard. There’s no one else in the field who can deliver the trumpism they still want.

[relayerbob]

4. Def agree on Trump. I give 50-50 on DeSatan

But, as you say, the support is shallow. Pence might as well stay home, no one on any side of any party likes him.

[Celerity]

5. If anyone other than the Orange Motherfucker wins the nomination, Rump will run 3rd party

just to destroy the party that spurned him.

THAT fear almost guarantees, IMHO, that Trumpyshitstain is the Rethug nominee in 2024, unless he is dead by then.

[dchill]

7. I agree with this - if he's still alive&kicking.

[leftstreet]

6. Haley or Cheney

The GOPer management consultants will keep tracking the death spiral of the Trump DeSantis wing of the party. If it's still bankable by 2024, it's Haley. If not, Cheney will spearhead the return of the Reagan Bush party.

[DET]

8. You're Probably Right

Personally, I think that Trump will either be indicted or will be physically incapacitated or deceased before the primary is over. In any case, even the MAGATs seem to be bored with him now. They want a new trained monkey to entertain them. DeSantis has ‘evil sociopath’ down pat, but he has the charisma of a fruit fly.

The nominee really depends on who wins what’s left of the soul of the Republican party. It’s possible that they determine that the base is tired of their juvenile antics and they turn on Trump, resulting in a more ‘moderate’ set of candidates. Larry Hogan would be their best best, but he actually has some real principles; can’t have that. I think that they’d go with Glenn Youngkin, a complete phony who can talk a good moderate game but who can be counted on to support the billionaire overlords and the crazies when needed. God help us if that happens.

[rubbersole]

12. Youngkin scares me.

The kind of pos that the Federalist Society would promote.

[yorkster]

9. I fear it could be Youngkin.... n/t

[niyad]

10. I keep hoping he will stroke out. And desatan does not look all that healhy

erither.

[JCMach1]

11. Trump only loses if he literally strokes out

[Polybius]

13. The only one that can beat DeSantis if Trump doesn't run is Tucker Carlson

No neo-con like Haley or Cheney will come close.

[regnaD kciN]

15. ...and who cares?

[stopdiggin]

16. interesting take on DeSantis

had not heard him described as an empty suit before. And - have to say it's hard to sell the idea that Rs will push for a person with strong positions and policy. Is that the Republican party we see today? It would appear that it's ALL about owning the libs from this perch.

[bullwinkle428]

17. Nikki Haley has the intellectual depth of a leaky kiddie pool. Honestly, she

makes Sarah Palin look like a deep thinker.

[Aristus]

24. And don't forget: She 's a woman of color.

The repukes will let her sit at the table, but they won't let her eat.

[Hotler]

18. It will have to be someone just as mean and hateful as the repug voters themselves. nt

[Chainfire]

19. If the Republicans want to give the nod to Donald J. Turnip, more power to them.

Trump is fading, he can not sustain the energy levels he once did. Pence is certainly not a serious candidate because no one likes or respects him. DeSantis is a real danger, empty suit or not, he has all of the qualities needed to be a successful Republican Party leader. He is crooked, he is a liar and he has no moral compass or heart.

[uponit7771]

21. They'll have no choice if they want to win, TFG is not fading among his base and still holds around

... 30% of them who wont vote for a Death Sentence if the GZP pushed him on them.

The GZP made their beds with a 800 lbs gorilla and now they have to have sex with it.

[Kaleva]

22. Trump's poll numbers amongst Rs is dropping

There's a civil war going on over at Free Republic between the due hard TFG supporters and those who want someone else.

[uponit7771]

23. Yep they wont drop below that 5% MAGA he'll take country wide though. The civil war in the GZP

... is going to be messy but I'm thinking TFG comes out on top cause he will burn the GZP down death sentence wont.

He's a text book sociopath, Moscow Mitch is giving Jack Smith all the evidence he's got

[uponit7771]

20. K&R, ... also DeathSentence wants the gov to force little girls to have babies. That's not popular

[fightforfreedom]

25. Watching the Republican primary will be like witnessing an interstate highway pile up.

Who knows who will survive that.