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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs the world ready for mass migration due to climate change?
Borders define our fate, our life expectancy, our identity, and so much more. Yet they are an invention just like the maps I used to draw. Our borders don't exist as immutable facets of the landscape, they are not natural parts of our planet, and were invented relatively recently.
It can be argued, however, that most of these imaginary lines are not fit for the world of the 21st Century with its soaring population, dramatic climate change and resource scarcity. Indeed, the idea of keeping foreign people out using borders is relatively recent. States used to be far more concerned about stopping people from leaving than preventing their arrival. They needed their labour and taxes, and emigration still poses a headache for many states.
There are, however, true human borders set not by politics or hereditary sovereigns, but by the physical properties of our planet. These planetary borders for our mammal species are defined by geography and climate. Humans cannot live in large numbers in Antarctica or in the Sahara Desert, for instance. As global temperatures increase, causing climate change, sea level rise and extreme weather over the coming decades, large parts of the world that are home to some of the biggest populations will become increasingly hard to live in. Coastlines, island states and major cities in the tropics will be among the hardest hit, according to predictions by climate scientists.
Unable to adapt to increasingly extreme conditions, millions or even billions of people will need to move.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20221117-how-borders-might-change-to-cope-with-climate-migration
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Javaman
(62,530 posts)just here in the states when Katrina hit, we in the surrounding states were woefully unprepared for climate victims.
and that was just a preview of things to come.
once the ice shelf holding back the Thwaites and Pine glaciers go (with in 5 years); all bets are off. the then slow and steady rise of the oceans, globally, will go up 2 to 3 meters.
any hurricane that hits from that point forward anywhere in the world will cause massive displacement, because, more than likely, that water from the tidal surge? won't be washing back out.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)The difference now will be the number of people involved.
Millions will die because of climate change. Abortion and current refugees are the two biggest issues on the right. They have no clue what is coming.
Christianity teaches us to welcome the stranger! Will radical right Americans do it?
2naSalit
(86,647 posts)Well, the western world that is. Too wrapped up in their first world problems.
tanyev
(42,568 posts)should be given incentive to rebuild elsewhere and discouraged from rebuilding where they were.
mn9driver
(4,426 posts)And in the coming decades it will get worse. Much worse.
Ohioboy
(3,243 posts)Deniers refuse to consider that their good lives and economy will ever change. They don't even want to hear of the possibility. They would rather kill the messenger and stay in denial to the very end. They might get their guns ready to join any chaos, but they'll work hard to keep their heads in the sand when it comes to any other solutions.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)Most people are in denial.
It would be interesting to take a poll here....but folks here seem to have taken notice in the past couple of years.
cstanleytech
(26,298 posts)Otherwise our species has the ability to adapt fast than almost any other species.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)The toughest years for our wonderful lakes are yet to come.
IronLionZion
(45,457 posts)socialist cyclist
(18 posts)Here in Vermont, its the wealthy who are moving into the state, buying second homes and displacing local residents. The migrants are rich, probably conservative. I think the future here is going to be interesting.
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calimary
(81,322 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)It's just not as cut and dry as most people need for them to make the connection. Subsistence farming in the mountains of Central America has been failing for decades due to global warming. So villagers moved to bigger cities to be able to find work and survive, the cities became overcrowded. Over crowding led to poorer living conditions, increased crime, and gangs. The people we are seeing at our Southern Border right now are fleeing that crime, there there because of global warming.
Political leaders in the US need to be able to tie these two issues together, it's cause and effect. But I fear the globe will see an increase in authoritarianism as a response to climate migration.
multigraincracker
(32,688 posts)for all of the marbles, Alex.
We dont need any imaginary boarders.
Farmer-Rick
(10,185 posts)What? you think humans will carefully consider and plan for an upcoming problem? Humans use their vast brains for more than emotional thinking and pleasure seeking? Impossible.
We will do what humans have always done. Do nothing, let the problem cause suffering and death, get the wrong end of the stick and blame it on one of many gods.
Eventually, so many people will die that the right thing happens by default.
Here's hoping some humans are able to hang on until the last bit of overheating from the Koch Bros and petroleum profits have dissipated.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)A lot of the pressure on the southern border with Mexico is climate change refugees.
Amishman
(5,557 posts)The RWNJ's are being coaxed to oppose immigrants, deny climate change, and arm themselves heavily. By chance or by subtle manipulation, they are poised to violently oppose any mass migration into the rural areas of this country. At the same time, we see wealthy elites making largescale purchases of farmland and other open spaces in the areas that have the most xenophobic RWNJs.
A suspicious person could see this as a form of long term backup plan by the billionaire class.
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)and Ill believe theres some hope.
Jack the Greater
(601 posts)"Our borders don't exist as immutable facets of the landscape, they are not natural parts of our planet, and were invented relatively recently. "
Rivers? Mountain ranges? Ocean and sea coastlines? These and other natural features form a large percentage of national borders.