I am tired of all the hate in this nation! WTF is wrong with people?

[nightwing1240]

The past decade has been disgusting to say the least. From the frikken maga groups to the damn hate groups in Charlottesville, to the cop kneeling on George Floyds neck, to the shooting in Uvalde and all those children murdered and now this in Colorado Springs with the mass killings in the LGBTQ bar. Pardon me but what the actual f#ck is going on!

I can understand to a point how we got to where we are but the bigger question is when will all this hate shit stop! There seems to be an endless stream of idiotic, gullible, psychotic pricks among us with no end in sight to this madness. Our children, loved ones and fellow man are being slaughtered in the name of what?? I thought this was supposed to be a Christian nation so please explain to me how Christ would be pleased with all this killing and hate. I believe in Christ as well and sure as hell was not taught or brought up like the mindless killers we have today. FFS I feel bad if I swat a fly or accidentally hit a squirrel while driving.

It's like somehow, over time, we have witnessed the dehumanization of mankind to where no ones life matters at all other than our own. Thankfully you here are not like this and neither am I. Most of us are lifelong Democrats but of course we are not perfect in everything but thankfully a vast majority of us are not like these people filled with hate for the sake of hate.

Allow me to be clear, I do not hate tRump or republicans, I do despise them. Big difference. Having never owned or wanted a gun I sure as hell wouldn't run around shooting people for anything I dint like.

Perhaps we need more teaching in schools because obviously way too many parents are setting bad examples and passing on racism and bigotry to their children. We are all born color blind so this and all the other hate bullshit is learned behavior. It has got to stop.

I will end my rant here before I really start swearing. I'm just sick of turning on the television and seeing some hateful bastard(s) have done something horrific.

To the shooting victims and their families in Colorado Springs, I am deeply sorry you have to suffer this.

[samsingh]

1. the republicans hate us

[Alexander Of Assyria]

2. No hate speech laws, so all the broadcasting of hate leading to death of the hated, is legal.

[nightwing1240]

4. I have always felt that needed changed

hate speech is not free speech as far as I am concerned

[NoRethugFriends]

3. Not a Christian nation nor should it be one

Oh, and nothing wrong with hating Trump and Republicans.

[SouthernLiberal]

5. Some at least is from churches

Which teach that homosexuals should be killed.

[NoRethugFriends]

18. Yep. Too much of it.

[Initech]

27. 50 years of evangelical bullshit has led to nothing but disaster.

Coddling the southern godly / gun nut voters was a colossal mistake.

[question everything]

6. Social Media!

I think that there were always fringe groups like the Dumb Boys and the Misery Keepers but Social Media allow these hateful and conspiracy theories to spread.

[emulatorloo]

9. and Rush Limbag and Fox News. Mainstream media normalized Tea Baggers and regurgitated

everything they said as if their nutso opinions were based in reality.

[FoxNewsSucks]

16. Yep. AM hate radio and Fox started it 25 or so years ago,

Fecesbook, Tweeter and the supporting churches have made it so much worse.

They think it must be right because - they heard it on the radio, saw it on TV, their grandma posted it and their pastor said the same thing last Sunday!!!!!

It's constantly reinforced and they never hear anything else.

[FalloutShelter]

7. As to education-

I’m certain you are aware that they are outlawing the teaching of anything that
resembles multiculturalism.

School Boards are ground zero right now.

Very few people vote in school board elections.

The thugs have run circles around us in bottom up governance. We are now reaping that whirlwind.

[nightwing1240]

28. Sadly I am aware

But I would think an overwhelming majority of teachers would want to teach multiculturalism. It serves us all in the end to get along and work together.

[FalloutShelter]

30. I think you are right and they DO want to teach it...

can they keeps their jobs? That's the question... and teachers are leaving the profession in droves.

[Progressive dog]

8. You lost me with

" I thought this was supposed to be a Christian nation"
I can't find anywhere in the Constitution where Christianity is mentioned.

[Probatim]

14. I think the OP is referring to the christians who scream about this being a christian nation

while they hate the hell out of anyone who might be slightly different than they are.

[nightwing1240]

22. Exactly

Thank you

[Probatim]

31. Glad to be of help.

[Javaman]

10. Just finished a book called, "The View from Flyover Country: Dispatches from the Forgotten America"

that will give you some insight.

NEW YORK TIMES and MIBA BESTSELLER

From the St. Louis–based journalist often credited with first predicting Donald Trump’s presidential victory.

"A collection of sharp-edged, humanistic pieces about the American heartland...Passionate pieces that repeatedly assail the inability of many to empathize and to humanize." ― Kirkus

In 2015, Sarah Kendzior collected the essays she reported for Al Jazeera and published them as The View from Flyover Country, which became an ebook bestseller and garnered praise from readers around the world. Now, The View from Flyover Country is being released in print with an updated introduction and epilogue that reflect on the ways that the Trump presidency was the certain result of the realities first captured in Kendzior’s essays.

A clear-eyed account of the realities of life in America’s overlooked heartland, The View from Flyover Country is a piercing critique of the labor exploitation, race relations, gentrification, media bias, and other aspects of the post-employment economy that gave rise to a president who rules like an autocrat. The View from Flyover Country is necessary reading for anyone who believes that the only way for America to fix its problems is to first discuss them with honesty and compassion.

“Please put everything aside and try to get ahold of Sarah Kendzior’s collected essays, The View from Flyover Country. I have rarely come across writing that is as urgent and beautifully expressed. What makes Kendzior’s writing so truly important is [that] it . . . documents where the problem lies, by somebody who lives there.”―The Wire

[nightwing1240]

29. Will look for that at my library

thank you

[Initech]

11. Limbaugh and Fox completely broke the GOP.

When you have nothing but hate, lies and bullshit being fed to you 24 hours a day, this is what happens. The GOP used to have standards. Look at Eisenhower, for instance. Though he would never be elected in today's GOP. Today's GOP only wants someone who will amplify and give credit to the hate propaganda that's being fed to them. People let Fox and AM hate radio do their thinking for them.

The propaganda is a huge part of the reason why we're in the mess that we're in. I can't think of one problem that we currently face that isn't the result of endless lies. And what the parents watch and listen to absolutely has an effect on the kids. Like if the parents watch Fox and listen to Limbaugh, don't be surprised when their kids grow up to be gun toting neo Nazi lunatics who have a grudge against the government.

[nightwing1240]

23. I agree both played a large part in how we got to today

[sop]

12. I still believe most people when left to their own devices will behave decently towards others.

Unfortunately, there are forces out there constantly working to turn Americans against one another for political and financial gain. Hate and fear are very effective ways of controlling people.

[bucolic_frolic]

13. I think the parallel is in the stirring of the pot

The Reformation, equally as well as the internet, stirred up the pot of ideas. Everyone is in mental conflict, whereas previously there was peace. The Reformation began the 30 Years War, a religious conflict perpetuated by leaders of the time - heads of state. Many ordinary Europeans, particularly in Germany where much of the fighting took place, began migrating to the New World.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War

My point being ideas, the means of violence, produce conflict. But today, we have insurgency - random violence in civil society. This is the new normal. It may not change a lot for several decades.

[jimfields33]

15. Have we ever been a perfect country? No. Hate has been here since 1776.

Only difference is social media emphasizes it. But before you’d get the news, but sometimes it was days older. And a lot of local news never became national.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

17. Populists use hate as a way to destroy liberal democracy and gain power for themselves.

In their minds, this a "feature" not a bug.

[H2O Man]

19. Recommended.

Thank you for this. On Saturday, on an internet boxing forum I inhabit, a member posted a picture of Martin Luther King, Jr., and a few paragraphs about his concerns with the US today. He noted that he wished that King were alive today, to lead us.

I responded that part of King's genius was his understanding that if you want people to act differently, you first must make them think differently. I'm paraphrasing Malcolm X there, as both he and Martin knew this.

I am less troubled by the hatred of republicans -- although I'm 100% troubled by it -- than I am by what I see among Democrats including on this forum. I'm planning to write an essay on what it means to honor King in our thinking and behavior. I have no doubt it will sink like a rock with a brick weighting it down, of course.

[nightwing1240]

24. I look forward to your essay Sir

Both The Reverend King and Malcolm X would be appalled with where we are now.

[MissMillie]

20. What I don't understand is the leap from hate to murder.

I understand (not condone) hate. It's usually born from fear.

But it's a giant leap from hating someone to risk going to jail in order to kill them.

How does anyone make that leap?

[newdayneeded]

21. I think the leap to high end hatred

started the day Obama was elected. They absolutely could not handle a black man as president. Hell, they even started shooting little kids in schools because of it. Racism is so thick in this country, but its hidden under smiles and statements of "I'm the least prejudice person you could meet".

[inthewind21]

25. I tend to agree

And our country has allowed it to fester for decades.

[nightwing1240]

26. This!

I've been telling anyone that will listen that the problem for many whites is we had a black man in the White House for eight years and millions lost their damn minds about it and getting even for it now.

[Solomon]

32. Finally. I'm sick of the same question getting asked over and over and over. It's white supremacy.

That's the problem. Some whites, not all, but a lot of them, have severe issues with the idea that whites will become a minority in this country, and they will lose their privileged status.

[newdayneeded]

34. And of course the stupidity of the right

will again bite them in the ass. they want to outlaw abortions, so now just a select clinics around the nation can do the procedure. A rich white girl, poor Latino girl, and a poor black girl want an abortion. Which of those three will be able to get jetted away to get the procedure?

In the end, their policy will only increase the non white population, because of lack of funds to get the procedure done by minorities.

I've always said this, repubs can't think more than 5 minutes into the future.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

36. there is a lot of fear feeding the hate

[usonian]

33. Hate is a tool of fascists and other exploiters.

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17375614
I call it four horsemen.


• Oligarchs, the rich and mighty
• Ever-Greedy politicians
• “Ministers” of truth: the truth that they need more money and power
• RACISM, what thugs and tyrants have used throughout history, and do so today.

This looks to me like the nazi playbook, no doubt others.

https://democraticunderground.com/100217021793
“Democracy in Crisis: We’ve Been Headed Here for Decades.” Part 1of 8
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/6/2044226/-America-2021-The-Good-the-Bad-the-Ugly
Read all 8 to get the "plan" in detail.

Division is part of the cultural framework, built on duality.

[GoodRaisin]

35. Subhuman people were/are making money off of promoting and spreading hate

is what happened, and now it is spiraling out of control.

[Meowmee]

37. It won't stop

Until the media and many others admit what is going on.. that fascist are taking over the country with the support of a lot of people who are also fascists. A majority is being tyrannized by a crazy populace and the very imperfect system here won’t allow any real change or do anything to stop it.

The mass murderer who posed as a prez, who is still walking free after murdering over one million Americans and numerous other crimes such as trying to stage a coup and is now running for prez AGAIN. America you have FAILED. Failed is too good a word.