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irisblue

(32,982 posts)
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:19 PM Nov 2022

"A drag dancer stomped on the gunman with her high heels." edited 11/23/22

Last edited Wed Nov 23, 2022, 11:18 AM - Edit history (2)

Source-https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/11/21/us/colorado-springs-shooting-news

Title-An Army veteran says he went into ‘combat mode’ to disarm the gunman

COLORADO SPRINGS — Richard M. Fierro said he was at a table in Club Q with his wife, daughter and friends on Saturday, watching a drag show, when the sudden flash of gunfire ripped across the nightclub. His instincts from four combat deployments as an Army officer in Iraq and Afghanistan instantly kicked in. Fight back, he told himself.

snip-"...tackling the gunman and beating him bloody with the gunman’s own gun.."


snip-" Mr. Fierro, who served in the Army for 15 years, said he raced across the room, grabbed the gunman by a handle on the back of his body armor, pulled him to the floor and jumped on top of him."


snip-" As the fight continued, he said, he yelled for other club patrons to help him. A man grabbed the rifle and moved it away to safety. A drag dancer stomped on the gunman with her high heels. The whole time, Mr. Fierro said, he kept pummeling the shooter’s head while the two men screamed obscenities at each other."

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"A drag dancer stomped on the gunman with her high heels." edited 11/23/22 (Original Post) irisblue Nov 2022 OP
That is a Hero WA-03 Democrat Nov 2022 #1
The all were. irisblue Nov 2022 #4
"Good People With No Guns" (n/t) forgotmylogin Nov 2022 #24
+1,000,000! dchill Nov 2022 #52
Riiiight? nt TigressDem Nov 2022 #71
Indeed. Thanks to all the civilians who jumped in, to help. calimary Nov 2022 #40
Second source on the murder & hate crime charges irisblue Nov 2022 #2
Heroes Everywhere Deep State Witch Nov 2022 #3
💃 👠 irisblue Nov 2022 #6
+++ hlthe2b Nov 2022 #8
I Admire Anyone Deep State Witch Nov 2022 #11
... Lucinda Nov 2022 #55
Pic of Mr. Fierro underpants Nov 2022 #5
Badass! ironflange Nov 2022 #54
Rear window decal: Diversity It's on Tap JudyM Nov 2022 #60
"remained hospitalized with unspecified injuries" No he remains in hospital b/c mitch96 Nov 2022 #7
Having to suffer real pain and physical trauma is probably the last thing he expected Walleye Nov 2022 #19
Probably never orangecrush Nov 2022 #39
I hope he's in a great deal of pain right now and every blow from the stiletto heels excruciating Walleye Nov 2022 #43
The concepts orangecrush Nov 2022 #59
He'll have memories and pain, in real war he'd be dead he's lucky Historic NY Nov 2022 #62
thank you mr.Fierro. dont mess with anyone wearing stilettos . seriousl. AllaN01Bear Nov 2022 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author irisblue Nov 2022 #10
Paywall. niyad Nov 2022 #16
Let me try again.... irisblue Nov 2022 #17
Thank you for this! fierywoman Nov 2022 #32
Not free, Paywall MagickMuffin Nov 2022 #18
Go to post 17 irisblue Nov 2022 #20
Every LGBTQ club should hire a combat veteran like Fierro. ancianita Nov 2022 #12
My husband would be up for it! AwakeAtLast Nov 2022 #27
Does he have ex-combat buddies? They could incorporate as a security service! ancianita Nov 2022 #56
++ appalachiablue Nov 2022 #51
Mr. Fierro is a goddamned hero. Probatim Nov 2022 #13
I'm glad he was in position to grab it from behind. milestogo Nov 2022 #41
He knew it was there and, given the asshole's height of 6' 8", probably used some leverage. Probatim Nov 2022 #58
A REAL HERO PROTECTS PEOPLE, HE DOESN'T SHOOT PEOPLE. demigoddess Nov 2022 #14
I hope he gets a medal, or some sort of official recognition of his bravery. Buns_of_Fire Nov 2022 #21
ditto IcyPeas Nov 2022 #38
And people question why we wear heels. niyad Nov 2022 #15
$10 says @libsoftiktok and/or Tucker Carlson motivated the shooter. Initech Nov 2022 #22
I applaud you Richard Fierro! iluvtennis Nov 2022 #23
That guy is my newest hero UpInArms Nov 2022 #25
I always thought in that situation that if... Captain Zero Nov 2022 #64
Never fuck with a drag queen in her high heels! Lunabell Nov 2022 #26
A picture of the murderous f*** and his grandfather UpInArms Nov 2022 #28
He looks like a chunky kyle Marthe48 Nov 2022 #31
According to the guy who tackled him and took him down UpInArms Nov 2022 #42
he does, and I was just about to say it housecat Nov 2022 #50
He looks like a little kid BradAllison Nov 2022 #63
The Grandfather wearing medals on his suit? True Blue American Nov 2022 #66
Dork move for sure roscoeroscoe Nov 2022 #67
A drag queen did what 80 worthless cops couldn't vercetti2021 Nov 2022 #29
Well, she DID have some help from Mr. Fierro! 😉 ShazzieB Nov 2022 #36
+1000. (nt) Paladin Nov 2022 #44
Bingo! paleotn Nov 2022 #46
Sounds like the punk will be in the hospital for a very long time Warpy Nov 2022 #30
I hope he looks like a goddamn jigsaw puzzle with a couple of pieces lost, bullwinkle428 Nov 2022 #48
I hope Mr. Fierro's wife and daughter are going to be okay. ShazzieB Nov 2022 #33
He was interviewed by CNN last night and this morning. Nt LittleGirl Nov 2022 #76
His quick action saved lives Marthe48 Nov 2022 #34
That booking photo has to be moniss Nov 2022 #35
Oh right, that's why they haven't released the mug shot yet Walleye Nov 2022 #45
BRAVO orangecrush Nov 2022 #37
F'd around and found out. paleotn Nov 2022 #47
Hooray for the hero and the Queen! love_katz Nov 2022 #49
Now if political affiliation became a protected class..... The Grand Illuminist Nov 2022 #53
She needed to stomp harder Arthur_Frain Nov 2022 #57
The LGBT community includes highly trained former military DBoon Nov 2022 #61
very courageous of him Meowmee Nov 2022 #65
Those heels are probably damaged, as well as the outfit being worn kwijybo Nov 2022 #68
How will FOX spin this story? You know, Aldrich being the victim and all. Meadowoak Nov 2022 #69
Tucker had a segment on it last night. I will not bring that trash in here irisblue Nov 2022 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author kentuck Nov 2022 #72
Now the GOP will want to outlaw high heels world wide wally Nov 2022 #73
Clarify: trans woman, not a drag queen cbabe Nov 2022 #74
A good guy with no gun. Sucha NastyWoman Nov 2022 #75
She is a Trans woman... Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #77

irisblue

(32,982 posts)
2. Second source on the murder & hate crime charges
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:23 PM
Nov 2022
https://apnews.com/article/shootings-colorado-gun-politics-springs-7f079c7feebc32cc8ad46f2724844c18

Title-Gay bar shooting suspect faces murder, hate crime charges


snip-"COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) — The man suspected of opening fire at a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs was being held on murder and hate crimes charges Monday, two days after the attack that killed five people and left 17 others with gunshot wounds.

Online court records showed that 22-year-old Anderson Lee Aldrich faced five murder charges and five charges of committing a bias-motivated crime causing bodily injury in Saturday night’s attack at Club Q. He remained hospitalized with unspecified injuries, police said.

The charges were preliminary, and prosecutors had not filed them in court. The hate crime charges would require proving that the gunman was motivated by bias, such as against the victims’ actual or perceived sexual orientation or gender identity.

The attack was halted when a patron grabbed a handgun from Aldrich, hit him with it and pinned him down until police arrived minutes later."

more there

Deep State Witch

(10,429 posts)
11. I Admire Anyone
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:31 PM
Nov 2022

Who can walk in stiletto heels - man, woman, or inbetween. Let alone run in them, like in the high-heel race here in DC!

underpants

(182,836 posts)
5. Pic of Mr. Fierro
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:25 PM
Nov 2022
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/21/us/colorado-springs-shooting-club-q-hero.html

An Army Veteran Says He Went Into ‘Combat Mode’ to Disarm the Gunman
Richard M. Fierro, who served for 15 years in the military, said he was at Club Q in Colorado Springs with his family, and took down the man who killed five people.

The gunman, who Mr. Fierro estimated weighed more than 300 pounds, sprawled onto the floor, his military-style rifle landing just out of reach. Mr. Fierro started to go for the rifle, but then saw that the gunman had a pistol as well.

mitch96

(13,912 posts)
7. "remained hospitalized with unspecified injuries" No he remains in hospital b/c
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:28 PM
Nov 2022

He got the shit beat out of him for what he did.. life without parole..EOS...
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orangecrush

(19,574 posts)
59. The concepts
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 10:02 PM
Nov 2022



Of retaliation and karma are probably brand new for him.

His life is over, in any event.

As the years go by in prison, he may look back and realize the unspeakable pain and horror he inflicted, and experience genuine remorse.

If he's an actual psychopath, he will be exactly where he belongs.

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Probatim

(2,530 posts)
13. Mr. Fierro is a goddamned hero.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:41 PM
Nov 2022

The handle on the back of that asshole's body armor is there to help drag an injured soldier to safety. In this case, Fierro used it disarm said asshole, likely saving dozens of lives.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
41. I'm glad he was in position to grab it from behind.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:01 PM
Nov 2022

Most people wouldn't have known it was there, or wouldn't have remembered, or wouldn't have had the strength and nerve.

Probatim

(2,530 posts)
58. He knew it was there and, given the asshole's height of 6' 8", probably used some leverage.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 09:56 PM
Nov 2022

Fierro isn't a fragile flower - I'll bet he got moving and that asshole went down in a heap.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
22. $10 says @libsoftiktok and/or Tucker Carlson motivated the shooter.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 06:07 PM
Nov 2022

These two have blood on their hands. But they won't care, because followers, ratings and money.

Captain Zero

(6,811 posts)
64. I always thought in that situation that if...
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 03:50 AM
Nov 2022

You found yourself behind the shooter or could get behind him and rush him really hard you could take him down and start fighting dirty, a drag queen in stilettos is the frosting on that cake. I liked that he yelled out for help immediately. That was important to overwhelm the guy.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
42. According to the guy who tackled him and took him down
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:10 PM
Nov 2022

he is “300 plus pounds”

What a brave man to run towards that

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
66. The Grandfather wearing medals on his suit?
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 06:21 AM
Nov 2022

None of my family ever wore a medal and they all won them in WW2!

Did the combat Vet have his medals on?

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
29. A drag queen did what 80 worthless cops couldn't
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 06:24 PM
Nov 2022

Goes to show how those Uvalde cops are spineless and pathetic excuses of what a real hero would do.

ShazzieB

(16,426 posts)
36. Well, she DID have some help from Mr. Fierro! 😉
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 06:49 PM
Nov 2022

I mean, hell yes, that drag queen is awesome! But Fierro already had the punk down on the floor when she came over to help.

When the shooting started, Mr. Fierro said, he hit the floor, pulling a friend down with him. As bullets sprayed, he saw the gunman move through the bar toward a door leading to a patio where dozens of bar patrons had fled. Mr. Fierro, who served in the Army for 15 years, said he raced across the room, grabbed the gunman by a handle on the back of his body armor, pulled him to the floor and jumped on top of him.

*snip*

As the fight continued, he said, he yelled for other club patrons to help him. A man grabbed the rifle and moved it away to safety. A drag dancer stomped on the gunman with her high heels. The whole time, Mr. Fierro said, he kept pummeling the shooter’s head while the two men screamed obscenities at each other.


Fierro acted instinctively, due to his military training. That drag queen showed a lot of guts, joining in.

Warpy

(111,278 posts)
30. Sounds like the punk will be in the hospital for a very long time
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 06:30 PM
Nov 2022

and with any luck, they did enough damage that he'll never be able to shoot a gun again. Honestly, I had a brief vision of him being wheeled into the ER with a size 14 spike heel sticking out of his forehead. Sounds like I wasn't far off.

No, I can conjure up much sympathy for the little wart, males who think they can solve all their problems by shooting other people have done too much to piss me off. I'm glad this one is facing consequences in the hospital instead of just legal consequences, I hope the prospect of surviving with multiple fractures and no teeth left will discourage other gun nuts who think drag queens are easy pickings. I can tell them from personal observation that they are not.

Kudos to the NYT for getting the pronouns right. There might be hope for them yet.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
48. I hope he looks like a goddamn jigsaw puzzle with a couple of pieces lost,
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:26 PM
Nov 2022

when they finally drag his sorry ass in front of a judge for the arraignment.

Apologies to the late Jim Croce for stealing his lyrics!

ShazzieB

(16,426 posts)
33. I hope Mr. Fierro's wife and daughter are going to be okay.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 06:33 PM
Nov 2022

The article says they are "still recovering from injuries." But it sounds like they're at home (rather than in hospital), which I assume is a good sign.

He is a true American hero.

The Grand Illuminist

(1,334 posts)
53. Now if political affiliation became a protected class.....
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 08:01 PM
Nov 2022

We would see harsher penalties for insurectionists as it would be officially a hate crime in the direct legal sense.

DBoon

(22,372 posts)
61. The LGBT community includes highly trained former military
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 12:30 AM
Nov 2022

along with many others who possess pure physical courage

Homophobes are blinded to this fact, to their great disadvantage

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
65. very courageous of him
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 03:54 AM
Nov 2022

Tg they were able to disarm the shooter and stop him from killing and injuring more people.

kwijybo

(232 posts)
68. Those heels are probably damaged, as well as the outfit being worn
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 08:02 AM
Nov 2022

Add insult to injury, and sue the living crap out of the attacker. Hit the MAGAt where he thinks it hurts the most.

eta: clarity

irisblue

(32,982 posts)
70. Tucker had a segment on it last night. I will not bring that trash in here
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 10:29 AM
Nov 2022

But it is easily found on line if you want to read/see their "we have no idea why he did this."

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cbabe

(3,549 posts)
74. Clarify: trans woman, not a drag queen
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 02:26 PM
Nov 2022
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217401092

The one who saved my life and stomped the shooter’s face in was not a drag queen, she is a trans woman. Let’s not call trans women drag queens during this time of grieving over a transphobic attack.

I also want to make it clear, I don’t think Richard knew that she’s not a drag performer. But now that we know, let’s correct it.
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