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summer_in_TX

(2,739 posts)
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:29 PM Nov 2022

Why stay on Twitter?

Duty to Warn
@duty2warn

Ruth Ben-Ghiat: “It is more important than ever to stay on Twitter now. This is an information war, and DT is a skilled and tenacious warrior. Removing yourself voluntarily from the field of battle helps the right to win this war.”


Duty to Warn
@duty2warn

The right now controls Fox, CNN, Facebook and now you want to cede them Twitter to air their propaganda unopposed.
I’ll die first.



That’s a powerful reason I’m still there. Most news reporters check Twitter religiously. I’d hate for a Reicht-wing message to be all they see.

Plus, the community we have built over a decade of relationships has value.
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Why stay on Twitter? (Original Post) summer_in_TX Nov 2022 OP
If Apple pulls the app from its platform (its exec overseeing has already deleted his account) hlthe2b Nov 2022 #1
Nah. You could still use it via browser. TheBeam19 Nov 2022 #26
Well aware, but most use the google or IOS app. If you think Elon is not worried hlthe2b Nov 2022 #27
Oh, I didn't realize that was the bottom line. TheBeam19 Nov 2022 #29
Why have the internet? BootinUp Nov 2022 #2
Remember... Twitter is what YOU make it. WarGamer Nov 2022 #3
I made it deactivated. CentralMass Nov 2022 #11
then YOU no longer have to be "tormented" by it. WarGamer Nov 2022 #12
+1 Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2022 #23
Or leave twitter as a right wing cesspool echo chamber SCantiGOP Nov 2022 #4
There are twice as many Dems on Twitter womanofthehills Nov 2022 #19
Well stated and totally agree! Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2022 #24
BTWdidnt realize that there were twice as many Dems than Rs on Twitter Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2022 #25
There are enough Dems that ceding Twitter isn't necessary. Tetrachloride Nov 2022 #5
The problem is... regnaD kciN Nov 2022 #6
That may be the case... Salviati Nov 2022 #7
Contingency planning is smart. summer_in_TX Nov 2022 #8
I think Twitter is actually growing- highest number of tweets ever womanofthehills Nov 2022 #21
The right does not control CNN! We need to love evidence or we not much different in Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2022 #9
Anybody calling trump "skilled" is just wrong. He's just a Treefrog Nov 2022 #10
I am one who never said I'd leave Twitter. summer_in_TX Nov 2022 #16
i'm out. barbtries Nov 2022 #13
i'm going nowhere. mopinko Nov 2022 #14
Some of the reasons I will stay. irisblue Nov 2022 #15
Actually, they have just joined Mastodon... oioioi Nov 2022 #22
Link to Mastodon... oioioi Nov 2022 #28
The Right doesn't "control" CNN or Facebook/ brooklynite Nov 2022 #17
The Right has a large influence on both platforms. summer_in_TX Nov 2022 #18
CNN and Facebook, lol Sympthsical Nov 2022 #20

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
1. If Apple pulls the app from its platform (its exec overseeing has already deleted his account)
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:32 PM
Nov 2022

then it is likely "game over" for Twitter. Even if Google doesn't do likewise. I'm not registered on Twitter, but if I were, I'd probably just pop popcorn from the sidelines and watch how it all plays out.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/apple-executive-phil-schiller-quits-175238496.html

TheBeam19

(344 posts)
26. Nah. You could still use it via browser.
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 11:06 PM
Nov 2022

The mobile site looks almost exactly like the app. Seamless conversion.

And so many are addicted to social media, that’s what they’ll do.

I don’t think there are as many twitter addicts as there are Facebook addicts, especially among the older set who go there for endless phony family pictures and the latest gossip. But twitter will survive even without an app.

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
27. Well aware, but most use the google or IOS app. If you think Elon is not worried
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 11:13 PM
Nov 2022

search for his posting today where he indicates he'll just produce his OWN cell phones...LOL

The ubiquity of Twitter (and its utility throughout the world) is dependent on mobile apps. Bottom line.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
4. Or leave twitter as a right wing cesspool echo chamber
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:33 PM
Nov 2022

should all Progressives also get accounts at Free Republic and Truth Social so we can argue with the fascist assholes there?
I say anything any one can do to damage twitter is a good thing.

womanofthehills

(8,718 posts)
19. There are twice as many Dems on Twitter
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 09:59 PM
Nov 2022

So you want all the Dems to quit the largest site for world news. Twitter is not just about politics- it’s about connecting with your favorite writers, finding out the latest Covid, RSV etc news - people with common interests connecting - Obviously, many who are telling others to quit Twitter have never really explored Twitter. It’s the biggest site for the NFT community to promote their art - thousands of artists rely on Twitter to showcase their art.

Thousands of people with Long Covid posting their stories, giving others support, posting what helped them.

Tetrachloride

(7,847 posts)
5. There are enough Dems that ceding Twitter isn't necessary.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:37 PM
Nov 2022

Stay and defend Twitter if one is a Twitter user.

Now if the DNC would stop ceding Wisconsin, ….

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
6. The problem is...
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:37 PM
Nov 2022

…staying on the Bird enriches Elmo, and further cements its position as the dominant social media mouthpiece for the MAGAts.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
7. That may be the case...
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:40 PM
Nov 2022

... I deleted my twitter account because I never tweeted in the first place, all my account did was allow ol' musky to inflate his user numbers.

While it may make sense to stay on twitter, people should prepare for the end of twitter. I can't see how it can continue after 4 out of every 5 people leave in less than 3 weeks.

The amount of institutional knowlege lost is likely unsurvivable. It's not a matter of if this will cause problems, but when. The answer is not immediately, but likely sooner than you think.

People should be making contigency plans

summer_in_TX

(2,739 posts)
8. Contingency planning is smart.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:45 PM
Nov 2022

I’ve downloaded my data.

I haven’t decided my best option yet on where to go.

womanofthehills

(8,718 posts)
21. I think Twitter is actually growing- highest number of tweets ever
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 10:20 PM
Nov 2022

?s=46&t=TxfTg8gcUpOlmGnh0J9MQw


?s=46&t=TxfTg8gcUpOlmGnh0J9MQw

Do you realize that Japan has almost as many Twitter users as US - I’m sure most Japanese are not quitting Twitter over American politics.

Leading countries based on number of Twitter users as of January 2022 (in millions)

Characteristic Audience in millions
United States 76.9
Japan 58.95
India 23.6
Brazil 19.05
Indonesia 18.45
United Kingdom 18.4
Turkey 16.1
Saudi Arabia 14.1
Mexico 13.9
Thailand 11.45
Philippines 10.5
France 10
Spain 8.75

https://www.statista.com/statistics/242606/number-of-active-twitter-users-in-selected-countries/
 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
9. The right does not control CNN! We need to love evidence or we not much different in
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:48 PM
Nov 2022

evidence free suggestions to generate outrage!?

Twitter is NOT the go to place as substitute, unless some other online cesspool of hate and misinformation is insufficient.

Why stay on Twitter? half the posts here would disappear, and no one would miss the vast majority of them.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
10. Anybody calling trump "skilled" is just wrong. He's just a
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:56 PM
Nov 2022

moron.

I love all this hyperbole about fighting the good fight.

A few weeks ago everyone was proclaiming that they were quitting Twitter if musk or trump were part of it. Now that it has happened, people are making the excuse that they are fighting on the side of good by staying on that sickening platform.

At first I found all this funny as hell, but it is just sad now.

summer_in_TX

(2,739 posts)
16. I am one who never said I'd leave Twitter.
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 01:44 AM
Nov 2022

That's where I can have discussions with people who like to engage in the realm of politics, religion, media, society. I have friends there and I have people I support there.

I did start a counter.social account as backup. But I haven't used it much. And the founder, a hacktivist called The Jester, is alleged to be a misogynist who blocked a reporter after she wrote a critical piece on it. Post.news sounds intriguing. Mastodon? Not so much.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
13. i'm out.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:17 PM
Nov 2022

but i'm not trying to tell anyone else how to deal with it. fuck musk fuck trump fuck mtg.

i cannot judge anyone for what they do regarding twitter: i'm still on fb. i have reasons, but we all know there are many good reasons to abandon that platform as well.

i googled my twitter name today and got the "this account does not exist" response and am good with that.

mopinko

(70,127 posts)
14. i'm going nowhere.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:36 PM
Nov 2022

not like i'm a big person there, but imma keep lifting up the voices i find important.

oioioi

(1,127 posts)
28. Link to Mastodon...
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 11:28 PM
Nov 2022

This is a link to the Mastodon post shown below. If you follow it, you see responses on Mastodon and also browse the Memorial's feed there - I daresay it's as good as, if not better than twitter. DU should replace twitter linking here with an easier ability to link to Mastodon instead.

https://tinyurl.com/2p85s27r

I share this particular post only because I found it so terribly moving.



summer_in_TX

(2,739 posts)
18. The Right has a large influence on both platforms.
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 09:35 PM
Nov 2022

They have right wing share holders and board members pushing for certain approaches. Not to mention the many advertisers who are conservative in the older sense of that word.

Plus, in Zuckerberg's case, he holds to a libertarian philosophy which gives him a great excuse for doing little to nothing.

But control? No, I agree it's influence rather than control.

Sympthsical

(9,074 posts)
20. CNN and Facebook, lol
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 10:07 PM
Nov 2022

Just . . . LOL.

"I'll die first!"

Oh good. I was worried this was all getting hilariously out of proportion.

I'm beginning to wonder at what point intervention is necessary. What would that look like? "Mom, Dad. Get the family. Billy will not pull himself away from Twitter all day. I already phoned the pastor."

Like, what outside force would be necessary to get that grip?

"I'll die first!"

Yes. This is what a well-adjusted person who is not addicted to their computer monitor would say about social media. It is absolutely within the bounds of normal emotional regulation.

I think we need some of these people constantly quoted to start admitting they might have a problem. At what point are the rest of us enabling by validating it?

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