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Jilly_in_VA

(9,983 posts)
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:34 PM Nov 2022

Bison spread as Native American tribes reclaim stewardship

Perched atop a fence at Badlands National Park, Troy Heinert peered from beneath his wide-brimmed hat into a corral where 100 wild bison awaited transfer to the Rosebud Indian Reservation.

Descendants of bison that once roamed North America’s Great Plains by the tens of millions, the animals would soon thunder up a chute, take a truck ride across South Dakota and join one of many burgeoning herds Heinert has helped reestablish on Native American lands.

Heinert nodded in satisfaction to a park service employee as the animals stomped their hooves and kicked up dust in the cold wind. He took a brief call from Iowa about another herd being transferred to tribes in Minnesota and Oklahoma, then spoke with a fellow trucker about yet more bison destined for Wisconsin.

By nightfall, the last of the American buffalo shipped from Badlands were being unloaded at the Rosebud reservation, where Heinert lives. The next day, he was on the road back to Badlands to load 200 bison for another tribe, the Cheyenne River Sioux.

Most bison in North America are in commercial herds, treated no differently than cattle.

“Buffalo, they walk in two worlds,” Heinert said. ”Are they commercial or are they wildlife? From the tribal perspective, we’ve always deemed them as wildlife, or to take it a step further, as a relative.”

https://apnews.com/article/science-travel-health-canada-5a7f69c50b4df6a70cf6dbdc40a932b2

Restoring the balance, one animal at a time.

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Bison spread as Native American tribes reclaim stewardship (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Nov 2022 OP
Thank god for such people packman Nov 2022 #1
The tribe I work with just got a small herd GusBob Nov 2022 #2
Yes, the National Bison Range is so beautiful. Not only lots of bison but such incredibly ratchiweenie Nov 2022 #24
Gonna take a bunch of them to make the prairie healthy again. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #3
And the minute they wander off the reservations... SergeStorms Nov 2022 #5
The article states that they'll be slaughtered on the reservation by tribal members NickB79 Nov 2022 #12
So they won't be slaughtered for trophies... SergeStorms Nov 2022 #18
They are fenced in GusBob Nov 2022 #34
Native Americans RobinA Nov 2022 #25
True that GusBob Nov 2022 #35
I like it republianmushroom Nov 2022 #4
As the soutnern part of the Ogalalla aquifer dries up Warpy Nov 2022 #6
Nice little herd of bison at Caprock State Park in Texas .. Bo Zarts Nov 2022 #7
Ted Turner started a project here in NM Warpy Nov 2022 #17
Sadly all of these animals are DenaliDemocrat Nov 2022 #8
Have you got proof of that TexLaProgressive Nov 2022 #9
They're all contaminated by cattle genes NickB79 Nov 2022 #14
Contaminated?? RobinA Nov 2022 #26
Domestic cattle genes are undesirable in wild bison NickB79 Nov 2022 #27
Henry Mountain Herd VGNonly Nov 2022 #30
Excellent to hear! NickB79 Nov 2022 #33
Do you even do a bit of research DenaliDemocrat Nov 2022 #19
They still Jilly_in_VA Nov 2022 #10
They are NOT the same animal that roamed the plains DenaliDemocrat Nov 2022 #20
At this point, it's the best we've got though NickB79 Nov 2022 #21
Interesting on the chestnuts DenaliDemocrat Nov 2022 #22
Are humans "contaminated" with Neanderthal DNA not human? hunter Nov 2022 #16
As are the Catalina Bison pfitz59 Nov 2022 #31
Even the Marines have some pfitz59 Nov 2022 #32
We were in Yellowstone last year mcar Nov 2022 #11
Now that made me smile Bettie Nov 2022 #13
Excellent news. Thanks, Jilly Hekate Nov 2022 #15
I have read that they are almost un-fenceable... albacore Nov 2022 #23
Not an expert but GusBob Nov 2022 #28
Such magnificent animals. Paladin Nov 2022 #29
stewardship is a rather loaded term when it comes to natural resources dembotoz Nov 2022 #36

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
2. The tribe I work with just got a small herd
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:56 PM
Nov 2022

of 13 about a year ago. I think they had one calf born since. They are shy buggers tho and hide out there on the lonesome prairie

Have seen the Blackfoot herd up close, they have a bunch.

My favorite place to buffalo watch is Ft Belknap up the road here, which is Gros Ventre/Assiniboine. Their viewing station is remote and serene

Next favorite is the National Bison Range run by the Flathead Nation, you can get up close and personal there and see all kinds of critters as well

None of these places are touristy like Yellowstone. The American Prairie Preserve folks are non-native but they have buffs too. Hard to get in the roads can turn to gumbo and you will get stuck


Ground Buffalo meat make great burgers

ratchiweenie

(7,754 posts)
24. Yes, the National Bison Range is so beautiful. Not only lots of bison but such incredibly
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 12:54 PM
Nov 2022

gorgeous country. One of the most peaceful places I have ever been.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
5. And the minute they wander off the reservations...
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:24 PM
Nov 2022

they'll be slaughtered by some red-blooded 'Murkin "sportsman" so they can have their heads mounted as a trophy.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
12. The article states that they'll be slaughtered on the reservation by tribal members
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 08:25 PM
Nov 2022

They're not doing this strictly out of love of wildlife. These animals represent a local, sustainable food source as well.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
18. So they won't be slaughtered for trophies...
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 11:33 PM
Nov 2022

if they wander off the reservation?

Of course they'll be used as food for the Native Americans. If they're not harvested for food they'll start to overrun their grazing grounds and people will get quite irate. Can you imagine crashing into one of those brutes, late at night, with a passenger vehicle? 😵

I should have been more clear. American Buffalo were killed by the millions for their pelts and tongues when the west was opening up to settlers. The meat was left to rot.

Sort of like the Trump boys. They kill wild animals for trophies only. They'd never dirty their delicate palates with lean, wild meat. Sorry I wasn't more clear with my post.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
34. They are fenced in
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 03:53 PM
Nov 2022

i never have heard of one get loose in these parts

As far as hunting, one local tribe auctions/ raffles off a buffalo hunt as a fundraiser, and its open to non-tribal members

I dont know how sporting it is or if you are allowed to pick a trophy or what

Offering hunts to non-natives is a big fundraiser on this agency. One can get a permit for just about anything except bear, which is a sacred animal to the tribe

Top game price is a big horn sheep for 10,000$ You have to hire a native guide for 1800$ to 3000$

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
25. Native Americans
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 01:30 PM
Nov 2022

themselves made a pretty big dent in the bison population back in the day. They ran them off cliffs.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
35. True that
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 04:08 PM
Nov 2022

But there were 100's of millions of them back in that day. A hundred or thousands off a cliff would not leave a big dent I reckon

and the Natives used every part of the buffalo, not just tongues and hides

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
6. As the soutnern part of the Ogalalla aquifer dries up
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:29 PM
Nov 2022

returning it to prairie grasses and buffalo will be the best thing for it.

Big Ag will undoubtedly let it go to desert scrub first, Uncle Sam will have to reclaim the land as prairie.

Bo Zarts

(25,399 posts)
7. Nice little herd of bison at Caprock State Park in Texas ..
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:40 PM
Nov 2022

On the eastern edge of the Llano Estacado.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
17. Ted Turner started a project here in NM
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 09:46 PM
Nov 2022

and got Yellowstone to lend him bison to improve the diversity of his herd. I think it was set up as a foundation project, so it's still going. There are small herds here and there, just waiting for the southern part of the aquifer to dry up and the land restored to what it was supposed to be.

These are in no way domestic animals, they're ornery beyond belief. Even a small herd needs a lot of land.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,476 posts)
8. Sadly all of these animals are
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:46 PM
Nov 2022

Contaminated with cattle DNA. There are really no “wild” bison. They are extinct

TexLaProgressive

(12,157 posts)
9. Have you got proof of that
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 08:18 PM
Nov 2022

There was a bit of hybridization, Beefalos, but I don’t think that worked out well.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
14. They're all contaminated by cattle genes
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 08:27 PM
Nov 2022
https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/what-the-loss-of-pure-bison-means-for-conservation

Two years later, a study published this past April in Scientific Reports proved Geddes was right. In a first-of-its-kind investigation, Ph.D. candidate Sam Stroupe and his collaborators at Texas A&M took a genome-wide look at the DNA of all seven known bison lineages in the U.S. These included national park bison from Yellowstone, Wind Cave and Canada’s Elk Island — three herds that were most likely to contain genetically pure bison. Stroupe’s team used several different methods to compare the bison genomes to those of domestic cattle. They found cattle genes in every bison they examined.

VGNonly

(7,495 posts)
30. Henry Mountain Herd
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 02:25 PM
Nov 2022

in Utah has been found to be purebred bison based on genetic testing on mitochondrial and nuclear DNA.

They number about 300. They are isolated by the surrounding desert. The Henry Mountains have grasslands, few trees and high alpine meadows. The highest point is about 11,500ft.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,983 posts)
10. They still
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 08:20 PM
Nov 2022

behave like wild bison, so for all intents and purposes they are. Stop it.

A lot of the bison you get in supermarkets may come from Ted Turner's ranch in Montana, which is huge. He has, or had, the largest private herd in the country, and managed them pretty much as the indigenous people do, letting them run free on his property. He employs a lot of Native hands to look after them. I give him props for this.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
21. At this point, it's the best we've got though
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 08:11 AM
Nov 2022

I've also got a degree in biochem, and I'm really into agronomics and botany. The bison contamination issue is like the current debate over using transgenic American chestnuts or advanced American-Chinese hybrids for reforestation. They're not pure American, but adding a few genes for oxalase enzymes is the only way to neutralize the blight fungus that almost wiped them out.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,476 posts)
22. Interesting on the chestnuts
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 10:34 AM
Nov 2022

I’m Italian American from the north and chestnuts played large in my childhood.

My grad work was on 2ndary plant metabolites- mainly defense compounds. I kind of piggy backed that into tox which is where I do most of my work

I worked the last decade on PFAS compounds and was a bit of a SME on them.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
16. Are humans "contaminated" with Neanderthal DNA not human?
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 09:05 PM
Nov 2022

I think it's reasonable to call these animals bison.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
11. We were in Yellowstone last year
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 08:20 PM
Nov 2022

Reading about what the fledgling Nat'l Park Service and others in the area did to rescue the nearly extinct bison - and then seeing them in the park - was wonderful.

Thanks for this!

albacore

(2,399 posts)
23. I have read that they are almost un-fenceable...
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 12:04 PM
Nov 2022

Big and powerful, and even the "domesticated" ones are pretty aggressive.
If that's true, it makes herds a little more difficult to control than our cattle....which were bred thru countless generations for docility.

Buffalo experts... can you comment?

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
28. Not an expert but
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 01:42 PM
Nov 2022

I have seen the fences the tribes use and they are pretty sturdy, haven't heard of a loose buffalo running out of them....see plenty of free range cattle and those that get out of fenced pasture

I know some ranchers disapprove of bison herds because of the risk of contagious diseases

or so they say, they may not like sharing land with the tribes, or the liberal American Prairie Preserve folks opening up land for buffalo

Around some parts of the west you see signs at ranches:

" save the cowboy, stop the American Prairie Preserve "

I dont watch that stupid show, 'yellowstone' but I gather that's what its about? 'preserving the cowboy way of life'

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)
36. stewardship is a rather loaded term when it comes to natural resources
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 04:26 PM
Nov 2022

it is something we could use more of instead of rape and plunder

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