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Cattledog

(5,916 posts)
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 06:50 PM Nov 2022

Idaho student murders. Has anyone asked this?

They had a dog in the house. The dog was not harmed. The dog apparently did not bark at the intruder(s). 2 students slept through the attack and were not harmed. I think the dog may have recognized the attacker.

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Idaho student murders. Has anyone asked this? (Original Post) Cattledog Nov 2022 OP
Yes, that is understood relayerbob Nov 2022 #1
Or the dog wasn't much of a guard dog MissB Nov 2022 #2
Most interesting. calimary Nov 2022 #3
Depends On The Dog SoCalDavidS Nov 2022 #4
My dog only barks when people go into the bedroom brer cat Nov 2022 #6
My understanding is the other two students were not home at the time of the attack Strelnikov_ Nov 2022 #5
I thought the other 2 were home Mz Pip Nov 2022 #7
Sounds like what I read may have been wrong Strelnikov_ Nov 2022 #10
Oh, gosh. I thought of Speck, too. Laffy Kat Nov 2022 #28
Dogs are overrated and mythologized when it comes being effective guards.....nt Jade Fox Nov 2022 #8
There was a reality show on once where guys would rob houses and business to show how lame FSogol Nov 2022 #12
In the 1970s when I was a child d_r Nov 2022 #20
Depends on the dog. Duppers Nov 2022 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Tetrachloride Nov 2022 #9
I would hope everything has been asked and know they might not want to tell us everything. brewens Nov 2022 #11
My dog would drown them in slobber blueinredohio Nov 2022 #13
My dogs bark if a car drives past my house UpInArms Nov 2022 #14
Mine too. I'd someone were to come in the yard, they'd go nuts. BlackSkimmer Nov 2022 #17
Mine barks at the wind bamagal62 Nov 2022 #19
Lol, I had a dog that hated hats once. BlackSkimmer Nov 2022 #21
If I am in the room, they are happy UpInArms Nov 2022 #22
I live on a dead end and they bark at every car that happens by, or if someone walks by. dem4decades Nov 2022 #25
I had a pug ... UpInArms Nov 2022 #27
Sherlock Holmes has already covered this DBoon Nov 2022 #15
That's the first thing I thought of, too Leith Nov 2022 #31
I wonder... 2naSalit Nov 2022 #16
That's occurred to me too. BlackSkimmer Nov 2022 #18
I'm thinking that was the Colorado Springs killer. dem4decades Nov 2022 #26
Don't. Jesus. nt Laffy Kat Nov 2022 #30
Okay. Maybe I'm wrong but was the killer related to some MAGA asshole? Did he threaten dem4decades Nov 2022 #32
No. Moscow Idaho has 24,000 residents. The university, with its 12,000 students, is a major.. Princess Turandot Nov 2022 #33
One of my dads's dogs hated UPS trucks. roamer65 Nov 2022 #23
How do 2 people sleep through 4 people being stabbed to death? OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2022 #24
Maybe a well placed Elessar Zappa Nov 2022 #29

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
1. Yes, that is understood
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 06:52 PM
Nov 2022

It seems pretty clear that the attacker had been there before and presumably knew one or more of the victims

MissB

(15,810 posts)
2. Or the dog wasn't much of a guard dog
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 06:54 PM
Nov 2022

Both are possible, but yes, I do hope that police are looking at folks within their circle of friends.

calimary

(81,323 posts)
3. Most interesting.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 06:54 PM
Nov 2022

Has anyone at the press briefing mentioned this?

Do they even know?

Are they perhaps working this angle?

We were out, and I’m just tuning in now. Missed the beginning.

brer cat

(24,578 posts)
6. My dog only barks when people go into the bedroom
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:01 PM
Nov 2022

he shares with my sister. It aggravates me, but I understand that is his den and he protects it.

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
5. My understanding is the other two students were not home at the time of the attack
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 06:56 PM
Nov 2022

Five young women, three killed, two not home, and one male killed who was staying over with his GF.

So, the dog could have been barking, or cowering.

Sounds like a Richard Speck to me.

Mz Pip

(27,451 posts)
7. I thought the other 2 were home
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:02 PM
Nov 2022

But they were asleep on the 3rd floor and didn’t hear anything.

It is very weird.

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
10. Sounds like what I read may have been wrong
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:07 PM
Nov 2022

From an article posted today:

"Authorities have confirmed that two additional roommates — who have not been identified — were home during the attack but slept through it and were unharmed."

Then again, with today's media . . .

FSogol

(45,491 posts)
12. There was a reality show on once where guys would rob houses and business to show how lame
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:11 PM
Nov 2022

security systems were. Whenever they encountered a dog, they'd throw the dog a pack of hot dogs and go about their business. When they left, they'd go, "c'mon boy" and the dog would jump in the van with them. It was the most hilarious part of the show.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
20. In the 1970s when I was a child
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:48 PM
Nov 2022

We had a German shepherd dog. My mother left a pot roast in the crock pot and we went somewhere. While we were gone a guy broke in and stole some of my dads guns. He dumped the post roast on the floor where it was eaten by the dog. I know this because my mother talked about that pot roast and that damn dog for the next 40 years, rest her soul.

Response to Cattledog (Original post)

brewens

(13,598 posts)
11. I would hope everything has been asked and know they might not want to tell us everything.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:07 PM
Nov 2022

I live about 35 miles from there and know the campus like the back of my hand. I worked blood drives there for 12 years and delivered dairy and food service there for a few years before that.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
13. My dog would drown them in slobber
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:18 PM
Nov 2022

she loves people and if she gets a chance she's going to lick until you're sick of her. When anyone comes to the door stranger or not her tail wags and she's ready to play. Never barks unless she's outside.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
14. My dogs bark if a car drives past my house
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:20 PM
Nov 2022

I live in the country and usually only three cars go by every day …

the mailman being one of them …

if anyone pulls into the drive, they go into hyperbark

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
17. Mine too. I'd someone were to come in the yard, they'd go nuts.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:31 PM
Nov 2022

They won’t take food from strangers. I didn’t train them in any way in that regard, but they simply won’t.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
21. Lol, I had a dog that hated hats once.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:52 PM
Nov 2022

Really got her going.

The ones I have now get stirred up when I dance lol. I’ll hear a song I like when I’m in the kitchen, start dancing around, and their heads come up in concern.

dem4decades

(11,297 posts)
25. I live on a dead end and they bark at every car that happens by, or if someone walks by.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 08:42 PM
Nov 2022

I'm pretty sure they'd bark.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
27. I had a pug ...
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 08:54 PM
Nov 2022

he didn’t bark … was just happy if someone looked at him …

I think it would depend on what kind of dog they had

DBoon

(22,370 posts)
15. Sherlock Holmes has already covered this
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 07:24 PM
Nov 2022
Gregory (Scotland Yard detective): Is there any other point to which you would wish to draw my attention?
Holmes: To the curious incident of the dog in the night-time.
Gregory: The dog did nothing in the night-time.
Holmes: That was the curious incident.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventure_of_Silver_Blaze

Leith

(7,809 posts)
31. That's the first thing I thought of, too
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 09:14 PM
Nov 2022

It's about time that I read all the Sherlock Holmes stories again.

dem4decades

(11,297 posts)
32. Okay. Maybe I'm wrong but was the killer related to some MAGA asshole? Did he threaten
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 09:24 PM
Nov 2022

his mother? Did the police intervene? Did they take his guns away? The cops aren't answering questions, and there's a lot of them.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
33. No. Moscow Idaho has 24,000 residents. The university, with its 12,000 students, is a major..
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 10:58 PM
Nov 2022

source of the city's economy. An unsolved vicious murder of 4 students is going to cause parents/prospective students to wonder if it's safe to go there. They're not slow-walking this to cover anything up.

One problem might be is that the last murder in the town occurred 7 years ago. They have 4 detectives, some of whom may have never investigated a murder before, much less something like this. The FBI is now assisting them, so hopefully they'll make some progress.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,505 posts)
24. How do 2 people sleep through 4 people being stabbed to death?
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 08:08 PM
Nov 2022

In fact, I don't understand how all of the people sleeping aren't awakened at the sound of the 1st stabbing. Seems like the initial victim would be screaming like hell.

Elessar Zappa

(14,004 posts)
29. Maybe a well placed
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 09:04 PM
Nov 2022

stab to the heart silences them immediately. Otherwise I’m not sure why there wasn’t screaming.

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