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PurgedVoter

(2,220 posts)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 05:49 PM Nov 2022

TFG seems to be using incompetent lawyers over and over. Is there an advantage to this?

Seriously, a smart Lawyer going somewhere or in a good practice, would avoid TFG like the plague, but even wannabe jerks who are willing to do it for the "Reputation" should at least know a little bit about what they are doing.

Yet time, and time again, and even before Jan 6, he has had lawyers with no respect for the law and no understanding of the law making claims without evidence, precedent, logic or any other type of sense you could name.

So my question is, is there a strategy here that might make sense or is TFG that insane and able to mesmerize weak minds into ruining their careers with glee?

Can they call it a mistrial, evidence of insanity, or make any other claim come out of such insane legalistic behavior?

Since a lot of this was directed from TFG, I don't think he can call it a mistrial and ask for a redo. All I can get from it is a desperate attempt to slow things down till he can manage to get a beer hall rebellion going.

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TFG seems to be using incompetent lawyers over and over. Is there an advantage to this? (Original Post) PurgedVoter Nov 2022 OP
Good lawyers don't work for free. And want their money up front. Meadowoak Nov 2022 #1
And expect their clients to be truthful with them and do what they tell them to do. tanyev Nov 2022 #3
Slows the process zipplewrath Nov 2022 #2
They are cheap, run out the clock and can be blamed for inevitable failures Maeve Nov 2022 #4
Not sure if this applies to TFG but chowder66 Nov 2022 #5
I expect dump is figuring HIS MOMFUDSKI Nov 2022 #8
Hopefully todays ruling by them regarding his taxes slows his roll so-to-speak. chowder66 Nov 2022 #10
The delay and spectacle are the purposes. Caliman73 Nov 2022 #6
He is not using incompetent lawyers for anything serious. former9thward Nov 2022 #7
Advantage, Lady Liberty Kennah Nov 2022 #9
Interesting... and devious. Kick for the post and the discussion. crickets Nov 2022 #11
Know what you call someone Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #12
Thank you all! PurgedVoter Nov 2022 #13
Delay Trenzalore Nov 2022 #14

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
2. Slows the process
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 05:53 PM
Nov 2022

Even bad arguments are allowed to be formed and given time to do so. Weeks are spent on these and then objections are lodged and given time to be argued. "Time" being weeks. Good arguments are rejected and they move on. Bad ones are argued and then objections are heard, and rejected, and reheard to new objections.....

It's a stall strategy.

Maeve

(42,289 posts)
4. They are cheap, run out the clock and can be blamed for inevitable failures
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 06:08 PM
Nov 2022

Other than that....(and he doesn't pay anything if he can find a way to blame them! Which he will...)

chowder66

(9,086 posts)
5. Not sure if this applies to TFG but
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 06:27 PM
Nov 2022

Sheldon Whitehouse was just on Nicole Wallace's show a little after 2:00 PM pacific saying that there is a code that is backed by dark money to take a case to court and ask to lose it quickly so they can move it up until eventually they get it in front of the Supreme Court.

MOMFUDSKI

(5,690 posts)
8. I expect dump is figuring HIS
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 06:47 PM
Nov 2022

supremes will bail his ass out at the ugly end. I have always thought his MO was to get as much dirt on people and threaten them with outing if necessary. The bulk of the supremes are dirty. We will see who has the most power. Sickening.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
6. The delay and spectacle are the purposes.
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 06:32 PM
Nov 2022

As you said, no adequate and reputable lawyer is going to touch anything associated with Trump. The kind of lawyer that is willing to work for Trump is likely to be willing to follow Trump's plan, which is to delay the process until some favorable situation presents itself.

As other people have said, the delay is what Trump is looking for. That and a narrative that he can spin to make himself the victim.

Trump does not seem to have the intelligence to plan in the long term. Everything he tends to do, seems to be for the sole purpose of delaying his ultimate defeat. If he can run out the clock on his criminal trials until a Republican president pardons him, then that is a victory for him. If he can delay the trial until he dies, then it is a victory for him.

former9thward

(32,082 posts)
7. He is not using incompetent lawyers for anything serious.
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 06:42 PM
Nov 2022

That is an internet myth. He hired the Drew Findling whose nickname is the "billion dollar lawyer". Findling is one of the top criminal defense lawyers in the country and was president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/us/trump-lawyer-georgia.html

If his lawyers are so incompetent how is it Trump has never been charged with anything even after 7 years of poster predictions that charges were "coming soon"?

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
12. Know what you call someone
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 09:01 PM
Nov 2022

Who graduates at the bottom of their law school class and who makes the bare minimum passing grade on a bar exam?

A lawyer!

Just because they're lawyers doesn't mean they can't be stupid. Stupid people get through law school and pass bar exams, all the time. Usually at diploma mill law schools and state bar exams like, oh, Alabama or South Dakota, where the test all but consists of the legal equivalent of, "Sign your name here."

But not always. Because stupid is everywhere. And I do mean everywhere. Always remember Carlo Cipolla's rules of human stupidity:

1. Everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals among us.
2. The probability that a certain person is stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.
⇑You are here.⇑
3. A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person while deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses themselves.
4. Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals.
5. A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.


So there are plenty of lawyers out there stupid and amoral enough to work for someone just as stupid and amoral. It's inevitable.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
14. Delay
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 11:03 PM
Nov 2022

He doesn't intend to win cases, just delay them. Hack lawyers will make bad filings but they take time to be processed. It has been his strategy his whole life.

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