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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,874 posts)
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 08:33 PM Nov 2022

Here Are All The Republicans Opposing McCarthy's Bid For House Speaker -- And What It Means

For The Next Congress

Topline

Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.) said he will not vote for Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) as speaker of the House, making him at least the fifth member to indicate opposition to McCarthy’s speakership bid, Politico reported, as the House prepares to select its next leader on January 3 when the new Republican majority takes office.

Key Facts

Norman said Tuesday he was a “hard” no when it comes to voting for McCarthy, joining other House Freedom Caucus members who have come out against McCarthy as the right-wing faction seeks to negotiate demands in exchange for votes.

Norman reportedly said he decided not to vote for McCarthy this week after McCarthy said he disagreed with the Republican Study Committee’s plans for curbing the national debt, which includes raising the minimum retirement age and allowing Medicare recipients to receive subsidies they can use to buy private insurance.

Norman joins Republican Rep. Andy Biggs (Ariz.), who is running against McCarthy for the speakership, and Rep. Matt Gaetz (Fla.) in pledging to vote against McCarthy, while Reps. Matt Rosendale (Mont.) and Bob Good (Va.) have publicly doubted McCarthy’s ability to lead the Republican conference.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/here-are-all-the-republicans-opposing-mccarthy-s-bid-for-house-speaker-and-what-it-means-for-the-next-congress/ar-AA14qMOx

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Here Are All The Republicans Opposing McCarthy's Bid For House Speaker -- And What It Means (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2022 OP
Popcorn, crackerjacks, milk duds... Enter stage left Nov 2022 #1
I'll take a box of crackerjacks and one very miserable McCarthy please Ray Bruns Nov 2022 #15
McCarthy In The Middle czarjak Nov 2022 #2
Sounds like there is going to be a cock fight. sheshe2 Nov 2022 #3
That's called frotting in polite society Kaleva Nov 2022 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Nov 2022 #10
GOP are not polite society. sheshe2 Nov 2022 #11
Mc:Carthy is going to promise Deminpenn Nov 2022 #4
What happens when they can't reach the number 218 to confirm a leader? kimbutgar Nov 2022 #5
won't happen littlewolf Nov 2022 #14
gonna b an interesting vote. mopinko Nov 2022 #6
Get a few corporate contributors to promise to set up PACs for Republicans in marginal districts lees1975 Nov 2022 #8
I'm kinda hoping Dems are working behind the scenes for a moderate dark horse Arazi Nov 2022 #9
I'd like to see all the Democrats Retrograde Nov 2022 #24
There are going to be some serious problems here Trenzalore Nov 2022 #12
You do realize that nothing is going to get done for the next two years, don't you? Ray Bruns Nov 2022 #16
There are things that have to happen Trenzalore Nov 2022 #20
" you may see the Republican Party slit its wrist politically forever" Ray Bruns Nov 2022 #22
Other than the carnage it is going to cause Trenzalore Nov 2022 #23
here's what I think happens littlewolf Nov 2022 #13
Nice to know Icanthinkformyself Nov 2022 #17
House Freedom Caucus was started by the tea party, very far right KS Toronado Nov 2022 #18
What if all dems/indies vote for Boebert? keithbvadu2 Nov 2022 #19
Watching Kevin herding those cat will be entertaining republianmushroom Nov 2022 #21

Response to Kaleva (Reply #7)

kimbutgar

(21,111 posts)
5. What happens when they can't reach the number 218 to confirm a leader?
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 09:16 PM
Nov 2022

Can the Democrats talk some saner republicans (if they exist) to caucus and give the Democrats control of the house?

But it will be delish to see the repukes fight and destroy each other!

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
14. won't happen
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:13 PM
Nov 2022

if he tried that ... no republican would vote for him
and there are not enough Democrats to get to 218

lees1975

(3,845 posts)
8. Get a few corporate contributors to promise to set up PACs for Republicans in marginal districts
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 09:52 PM
Nov 2022

and see how many of them jump ship.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
9. I'm kinda hoping Dems are working behind the scenes for a moderate dark horse
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 10:02 PM
Nov 2022

It would actually be helpful for our democracy if the moderates could exert some pushback here and try to form coalitions.

Yes yes, probably a fever dream

Retrograde

(10,132 posts)
24. I'd like to see all the Democrats
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 08:52 PM
Nov 2022

vote for Hakeem Jeffries. If these GOPers want to stomp their feet and hold their breath until they turn, um, blue, fine with me. AFAIK there's no reason why the Speaker can't be from the minority party

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
12. There are going to be some serious problems here
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 11:30 PM
Nov 2022

Things need to pass the house to keep the lights on. These maniacs can't govern.

Thankfully, in 2016-2018 they got the tax cuts passed and that is about it. They are unable to govern.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
20. There are things that have to happen
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 08:20 PM
Nov 2022

Passing continuing resolutions to fund government, raising the debt ceiling etc.

If they create a crisis with those things, you may see the Republican Party slit its wrist politically forever.

Ray Bruns

(4,092 posts)
22. " you may see the Republican Party slit its wrist politically forever"
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 08:48 PM
Nov 2022

1. That is exactly what they are going to do.
2. I'm okay with that.

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
13. here's what I think happens
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:11 PM
Nov 2022

McCarthy makes a deal with team Blue and enough vote for him
and he gives concessions .. I very well could b wrong ...

Icanthinkformyself

(218 posts)
17. Nice to know
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 04:44 PM
Nov 2022

their plan is to shift the debt obligation from the ones who created it, the morbidly rich and Americonglomacorp, to retirees and Medicare recipients. Once again, they want to take our gold mine and give us the shaft. I trust someone with a megaphone in the media picks up on that little admission. They keep admitting how they intend to phuck everything up and screw up the economy. Why doesn't the MSM believe them? Access.
PS Those 'hard' noes will be soft yeses and blown kisses after McCarthy makes his deals. It's all a game to them. It's performance art. They are not serious people, they are dangerous people.

KS Toronado

(17,187 posts)
18. House Freedom Caucus was started by the tea party, very far right
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 05:08 PM
Nov 2022

they never compromise it's always my way or the highway with them, so they'll want one of their own
as speaker to bring congress to a standstill while blaming us.

keithbvadu2

(36,738 posts)
19. What if all dems/indies vote for Boebert?
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 07:53 PM
Nov 2022

What if all dems/indies vote for Boebert?

Yeah! I know. Horrible thought.

Would that put the 5 or so repubs on the spot?

Incompetence. Republican incompetence.
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Or can members only vote for/against those put forward?

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