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Tue Nov 22, 2022, 07:33 PM

Here Are All The Republicans Opposing McCarthy's Bid For House Speaker -- And What It Means

For The Next Congress

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Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.) said he will not vote for Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) as speaker of the House, making him at least the fifth member to indicate opposition to McCarthy’s speakership bid, Politico reported, as the House prepares to select its next leader on January 3 when the new Republican majority takes office.

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Norman said Tuesday he was a “hard” no when it comes to voting for McCarthy, joining other House Freedom Caucus members who have come out against McCarthy as the right-wing faction seeks to negotiate demands in exchange for votes.

Norman reportedly said he decided not to vote for McCarthy this week after McCarthy said he disagreed with the Republican Study Committee’s plans for curbing the national debt, which includes raising the minimum retirement age and allowing Medicare recipients to receive subsidies they can use to buy private insurance.

Norman joins Republican Rep. Andy Biggs (Ariz.), who is running against McCarthy for the speakership, and Rep. Matt Gaetz (Fla.) in pledging to vote against McCarthy, while Reps. Matt Rosendale (Mont.) and Bob Good (Va.) have publicly doubted McCarthy’s ability to lead the Republican conference.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/here-are-all-the-republicans-opposing-mccarthy-s-bid-for-house-speaker-and-what-it-means-for-the-next-congress/ar-AA14qMOx

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Reply Here Are All The Republicans Opposing McCarthy's Bid For House Speaker -- And What It Means (Original post)
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 22 OP
Enter stage left Nov 22 #1
Ray Bruns Nov 23 #15
czarjak Nov 22 #2
sheshe2 Nov 22 #3
Kaleva Nov 22 #7
sheshe2 Nov 22 #10
sheshe2 Nov 22 #11
Deminpenn Nov 22 #4
kimbutgar Nov 22 #5
littlewolf Nov 23 #14
mopinko Nov 22 #6
lees1975 Nov 22 #8
Arazi Nov 22 #9
Retrograde Nov 23 #24
Trenzalore Nov 22 #12
Ray Bruns Nov 23 #16
Trenzalore Nov 23 #20
Ray Bruns Nov 23 #22
Trenzalore Nov 23 #23
littlewolf Nov 23 #13
Icanthinkformyself Nov 23 #17
KS Toronado Nov 23 #18
keithbvadu2 Nov 23 #19
republianmushroom Nov 23 #21

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Nov 22, 2022, 07:48 PM

1. Popcorn, crackerjacks, milk duds...

Get your popcorn here.

Hurry while it's still available!

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Response to Enter stage left (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:50 PM

15. I'll take a box of crackerjacks and one very miserable McCarthy please

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Nov 22, 2022, 07:56 PM

2. McCarthy In The Middle

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Nov 22, 2022, 07:59 PM

3. Sounds like there is going to be a cock fight.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 22, 2022, 08:49 PM

7. That's called frotting in polite society

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 22, 2022, 09:12 PM

11. GOP are not polite society.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Nov 22, 2022, 08:13 PM

4. Mc:Carthy is going to promise

everyone everything they ask for even if those asks are mutually exclusive.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Nov 22, 2022, 08:16 PM

5. What happens when they can't reach the number 218 to confirm a leader?

Can the Democrats talk some saner republicans (if they exist) to caucus and give the Democrats control of the house?

But it will be delish to see the repukes fight and destroy each other!

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 11:13 AM

14. won't happen

if he tried that ... no republican would vote for him
and there are not enough Democrats to get to 218

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Nov 22, 2022, 08:38 PM

6. gonna b an interesting vote.

we'll know who we can peel off, and who not to give the time of day.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Nov 22, 2022, 08:52 PM

8. Get a few corporate contributors to promise to set up PACs for Republicans in marginal districts

and see how many of them jump ship.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Nov 22, 2022, 09:02 PM

9. I'm kinda hoping Dems are working behind the scenes for a moderate dark horse

It would actually be helpful for our democracy if the moderates could exert some pushback here and try to form coalitions.

Yes yes, probably a fever dream

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Response to Arazi (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 07:52 PM

24. I'd like to see all the Democrats

vote for Hakeem Jeffries. If these GOPers want to stomp their feet and hold their breath until they turn, um, blue, fine with me. AFAIK there's no reason why the Speaker can't be from the minority party

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Nov 22, 2022, 10:30 PM

12. There are going to be some serious problems here

Things need to pass the house to keep the lights on. These maniacs can't govern.

Thankfully, in 2016-2018 they got the tax cuts passed and that is about it. They are unable to govern.

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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:52 PM

16. You do realize that nothing is going to get done for the next two years, don't you?

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Response to Ray Bruns (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 07:20 PM

20. There are things that have to happen

Passing continuing resolutions to fund government, raising the debt ceiling etc.

If they create a crisis with those things, you may see the Republican Party slit its wrist politically forever.

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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 07:48 PM

22. " you may see the Republican Party slit its wrist politically forever"

1. That is exactly what they are going to do.
2. I'm okay with that.

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Response to Ray Bruns (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 07:50 PM

23. Other than the carnage it is going to cause

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 11:11 AM

13. here's what I think happens

McCarthy makes a deal with team Blue and enough vote for him
and he gives concessions .. I very well could b wrong ...

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:44 PM

17. Nice to know

their plan is to shift the debt obligation from the ones who created it, the morbidly rich and Americonglomacorp, to retirees and Medicare recipients. Once again, they want to take our gold mine and give us the shaft. I trust someone with a megaphone in the media picks up on that little admission. They keep admitting how they intend to phuck everything up and screw up the economy. Why doesn't the MSM believe them? Access.
PS Those 'hard' noes will be soft yeses and blown kisses after McCarthy makes his deals. It's all a game to them. It's performance art. They are not serious people, they are dangerous people.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 04:08 PM

18. House Freedom Caucus was started by the tea party, very far right

they never compromise it's always my way or the highway with them, so they'll want one of their own
as speaker to bring congress to a standstill while blaming us.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 06:53 PM

19. What if all dems/indies vote for Boebert?

What if all dems/indies vote for Boebert?

Yeah! I know. Horrible thought.

Would that put the 5 or so repubs on the spot?

Incompetence. Republican incompetence.
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Or can members only vote for/against those put forward?

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2022, 07:46 PM

21. Watching Kevin herding those cat will be entertaining

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