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packman

(16,296 posts)
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 01:38 PM Nov 2022

Asshole pastor at Mall - "NO SANTA CLAUS"




Telling kids Santa is a myth while telling them Jeezus is real - Well, I'm going with Santa on this one and I still want my Red Ryder BB rifle.

More info:

In December 2016, David Grisham accosted a group of children and their parents who were waiting to see Santa Claus at Westgate Mall. A recording he made of the incident shows him being confronted by several parents. Grisham also posted a video showing a mock execution of Santa Claus by shooting.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repent_Amarillo#:%7E:text=Repent%20Amarillo%20also%20known%20as,exorcise%20demons%20from%20those%20areas
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Asshole pastor at Mall - "NO SANTA CLAUS" (Original Post) packman Nov 2022 OP
be careful, you could put his eye out with that thing..... getagrip_already Nov 2022 #1
He was a jerk, for sure. TheProle Nov 2022 #2
Alway got to be a turd in the punchbowl. What I know about carpenters and fishermen ... marble falls Nov 2022 #3
Of course Santa Claus exists. RobertDevereaux Nov 2022 #4
Twisted. badhair77 Nov 2022 #5
I would have a very hard time if I were on a jury SCantiGOP Nov 2022 #6
He must've been pretty bitter when someone told him that Harker Nov 2022 #7
My great niece is being raised 'fantasy free'. Or at least that's what her parents are trying to do. Siwsan Nov 2022 #8
My childhood Christmases resembled the Troubles in Northern Ireland. hunter Nov 2022 #23
he probably believes that the peach piece of crap onethatcares Nov 2022 #9
What an asshole. When right wingers run out of other victims, they attack small children. Chainfire Nov 2022 #10
May I bookmark this sarisataka Nov 2022 #11
These morons ruin everything! Initech Nov 2022 #12
His reading of the Bible is flawed, too. It doesn't say Jesus was "born" in a manger. rsdsharp Nov 2022 #13
It was probably set up like a sliding board with the Blessed Virgin on the top and little FSogol Nov 2022 #26
You know, sometimes you just have to break an asshole's nose. Ray Bruns Nov 2022 #14
Just look at my VISA bill, gopiscrap Nov 2022 #15
Jeezus is real? When did that happen? rurallib Nov 2022 #16
I don't know about Jeezus, but The Flying Spaghetti Monster is real. madinmaryland Nov 2022 #30
"You must believe as I say! We stole this holiday from the pagans"! LakeArenal Nov 2022 #17
Saint Nicholas was a real person and the SPIRIT of giving gifts with loving intent is real. TigressDem Nov 2022 #18
Why can't he let children just be children? Deuxcents Nov 2022 #19
Jeezus LOVED Guns & The Death Penalty Too SoCalDavidS Nov 2022 #20
What a dick! blueinredohio Nov 2022 #21
WWJS? BlueIdaho Nov 2022 #22
How to respond Sylvarose Nov 2022 #24
You see kids? That guy's definitely on the naughty list! Now, let's tell Santa what you'd like. FSogol Nov 2022 #25
What a dick Bettie Nov 2022 #27
We had one in the nexttown do something similar not for Christmas but for Easter. They had put out debm55 Nov 2022 #28
May he, and his enablers, receive everything they deserve. niyad Nov 2022 #29
Santa is lots more fun than Jesus. milestogo Nov 2022 #31
My Sunday school teacher ruined it for me as a six year old MagickMuffin Nov 2022 #32

TheProle

(2,195 posts)
2. He was a jerk, for sure.
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 01:47 PM
Nov 2022

I enjoyed Christmas as a child, with all the trappings of Santa, etc, and raised two children who enjoyed it as well and grew up to be rational secularists.

It is interesting to note however that, in addition to Santa being a brand ambassador for capitalism, he has also evolved for some into something akin to "God with Training Wheels."

He sees you when you're sleeping, knows if you've been bad or good and will subject you to consequences.

I like the whimsy of the season, despite Santa sometimes being used as an agent of authoritarianism.

marble falls

(57,181 posts)
3. Alway got to be a turd in the punchbowl. What I know about carpenters and fishermen ...
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 01:49 PM
Nov 2022


We need to remember he wanted the children to come to him willingly. He brought out the best wine at the wedding. That he laughed and joked with fishermen, carpenters and everybody else. He saved his righteous anger for church authorities.

What is wrong with this preacher? He sees the mote in other's vision while ignoring the log in his own eye.

RobertDevereaux

(1,858 posts)
4. Of course Santa Claus exists.
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 01:50 PM
Nov 2022

He’s simply not as he’s presented.

Truth lies, as it were, in my fantasy trilogy.

SCantiGOP

(13,873 posts)
6. I would have a very hard time if I were on a jury
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 01:59 PM
Nov 2022

with convicting someone that came up and knocked him out.

Asshole doesn't realize that he is one of the major reasons both church attendance and people who identify as Christians are plummeting to all time lows.

Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
8. My great niece is being raised 'fantasy free'. Or at least that's what her parents are trying to do.
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:07 PM
Nov 2022

I think that's a huge mistake. They don't celebrate Christmas and now refuse to visit over the holidays because we do.

It's sad, too, because when he was a child we used to really have a great time at Christmas. We weren't big gift givers - just something meaningful. What we did was enjoy food, drink, laughter and sharing great memories. It seems that after his mom, my sister, died he decided to wipe all happy family memories and traditions out of his head. She would be very saddened by this.

She's going to be 7 on New Year's Day. She's got friends. She's taking it all in. She's also missing out on some wonderful memories.

And, btw, I was raised in a religious home but still had absolutely no problem understanding both the religious and secular Christmas celebrations.

hunter

(38,326 posts)
23. My childhood Christmases resembled the Troubles in Northern Ireland.
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:05 PM
Nov 2022

None of the adults in our family agreed when, if, or how Christmas ought to be celebrated. I had but one grandma who celebrated the "traditional" Christmas of 1960's television.

My mom was a Jehovah's Witness until they kicked her out because she couldn't stay out of politics. The Witnesses consider Christmas a Catholic appropriation of pagan holidays, which it is.

My ideal Christmas would be sitting on a tropical beach somewhere "Holy Days" are never celebrated. I can't get most of my family to agree.

One of my brothers and his wife and kids actually do end up on tropical beaches most every Christmas.


Chainfire

(17,620 posts)
10. What an asshole. When right wingers run out of other victims, they attack small children.
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:11 PM
Nov 2022

I would tell him that their is no difference in Santa Claus and His "god." And maybe, one day, he will grow out of his fantasies just like the children will.

sarisataka

(18,767 posts)
11. May I bookmark this
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:12 PM
Nov 2022

For next month when we get the threads saying it's child abuse to let kids believe in Santa Claus?

Initech

(100,100 posts)
12. These morons ruin everything!
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:15 PM
Nov 2022

They're even ruining their own holiday which we've been told we must respect for the last 70+ years.

rsdsharp

(9,196 posts)
13. His reading of the Bible is flawed, too. It doesn't say Jesus was "born" in a manger.
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:16 PM
Nov 2022

It says he was “laid” in a manger. How the hell would one be “born” in a feeding trough for large farm animals?

FSogol

(45,525 posts)
26. It was probably set up like a sliding board with the Blessed Virgin on the top and little
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:36 PM
Nov 2022

Last edited Wed Nov 23, 2022, 05:22 PM - Edit history (1)

blue-eye Jesus just slid down.

rurallib

(62,447 posts)
16. Jeezus is real? When did that happen?
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:26 PM
Nov 2022

"Your fantasy isn't real, but my fantasy is! Neener, neener!"

The mall stores probably really appreciate him fucking up their sales.

LakeArenal

(28,844 posts)
17. "You must believe as I say! We stole this holiday from the pagans"!
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:26 PM
Nov 2022

Happy Winter Solstice!!! Something that really exists!

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
18. Saint Nicholas was a real person and the SPIRIT of giving gifts with loving intent is real.
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:27 PM
Nov 2022

I also believe in Jesus and am not uncomfortable in my own space as owning Him as the Reason for the Season.
He gave up his life to teach us forgiveness.


BUT there is no need to bash children over the head about Santa Claus "myth" and GOD FORBID this PREACHER is using his power to make an example, someone who should know better, teaching children to go out in public and assassinate those we disagree with philosophically.

THOSE kids are going to need therapy.

SHAMEFUL misuse of power by someone who claims to know GOD.

PREACHER MAN WILL BE SHOCKED WHEN HE DIES - MATTHEW 25:31 -:41

Paraphrased

People who THINK they are good, but do evil and ignore being kind and charitable to others, go to Hell.

People who THINK themselves unworthy because they want to do more, but fall short of their own imposed goals may be pleasantly surprised that they were noticed all the time and get into Heaven.

THOSE WHO HARM CHILDREN are on JESUS' NAUGHTY LIST.

He reamed his own disciples over not letting little children come to Him.

THAT preacher is in for a Hell of a shock when he dies.

Deuxcents

(16,315 posts)
19. Why can't he let children just be children?
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:29 PM
Nov 2022

Rant about guns n how they’re being lied to about them

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
22. WWJS?
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:52 PM
Nov 2022

What would the person Jesus say to a small child who believed in Santa? I suspect he wouldn’t piss on his metaphorical campfire.

Sylvarose

(210 posts)
24. How to respond
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:30 PM
Nov 2022

I'd like to believe that if I was there, I'd have the courage to start singing Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer as loud as I could, hoping the parents and kids would join in. I think an impromptu caroling session with songs like Rudolph, Santa Claus is Coming to Town, Jingle Bells, etc...would drown the guy out and send him a message - while someone called for security to remove him. If he wants to preach that message he can do it on the public sidewalk.

Bettie

(16,124 posts)
27. What a dick
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:38 PM
Nov 2022

he's a complete and total asshole.

Can't let kids enjoy childhood, has to try to wreck it for them.

Then again, it was my kid who, when his grandma told him that Christmas was Jesus' birthday said "Who's Jesus?" He was five and that was the year my beloved husband threw me under the bus out of panic when his mom finally realized we didn't go to church! He said it was because I liked to sleep in on Sunday.

debm55

(25,326 posts)
28. We had one in the nexttown do something similar not for Christmas but for Easter. They had put out
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:53 PM
Nov 2022

flyers for a children"s event at Easter. Had a dressed up "Easter Bunny" . This was around the release of
Gibson's film. The pastor preceded to tie the bunny to a stack and whipping him in front of all the kids as he screamed out about the evils of the Easter bunny, eggs, etc. Kids were in shock, parents pissed. Police called. The local news called it the Passion of the Bunny. Storefront church,Assembly of God, closed soon after. "Pastor" and his crew of nut cases were run out of town. At rhw time it made the national news.

MagickMuffin

(15,951 posts)
32. My Sunday school teacher ruined it for me as a six year old
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 04:18 PM
Nov 2022


And my six year old mind made the distinction back then. Santa God!

They both can see you at anytime, while sleeping gotcha covered, knows if you’re naughty or nice the all seeing eye.


I hate those who rain down upon everyone else’s parade!


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