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NJCher

(35,721 posts)
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:50 PM Nov 2022

Judge Recommends Camp Fed for Elizabeth Holmes

and he called her "brilliant." What a crock.

But it's really up to the Bureau of Prisons. Hope they don't go along with this.

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Judge proposes Theranos CEO Elizabeth Holmes serve her 11-year sentence in a 'minimum-security' Texas prison camp

Marielle Descalsota
Wed, November 23, 2022 at 3:15 AM·2 min read

District Judge Edward Davila recommended for Holmes to be designated to the Federal Prison Camp at Bryan, Texas, according to a November 21 filing. The Federal Prison Camp in Bryan is a minimum-security prison that houses female inmates.

The Federal Bureau of Prisons describes prison camps as "work- and program-oriented," and inmates are housed in dormitories. These prisons also have limited or no perimeter fencing. There are at least seven such prison camps in the US, the bureau's website shows.

Criminal defense lawyer Alan Ellis told Bloomberg that prison staff at the camp are more "open-minded," and that Holmes' lawyers had likely requested the location.

"No one wants to get kicked out because compared to other places in the prison system, this place is heaven. If you have to go it's a good place to go," Ellis said. While Davila has recommended these provisions for Holmes' incarceration, the final decision is slated to be made by the US Bureau of Prisons. Holmes has been ordered to surrender herself into custody by April 27, 2023.

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/judge-proposes-theranos-ceo-elizabeth-081540492.html

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Judge Recommends Camp Fed for Elizabeth Holmes (Original Post) NJCher Nov 2022 OP
Power Has Its Privileges nt SoCalDavidS Nov 2022 #1
No doubt. underpants Nov 2022 #2
White collar federal prisoners, JenniferJuniper Nov 2022 #3
Given the sentence, this facility seems to be inappropriate LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2022 #4
She still has plenty of time to flee to a non-extradition country. GoCubsGo Nov 2022 #5
Soft time place TexLaProgressive Nov 2022 #6
Holmes is brilliant at bullshit, I'll give her that. She managed to recruit the likes of catbyte Nov 2022 #7
The focus shouldn't be on why she shouldn't go there missingthebigdog Nov 2022 #8
As I've learned over and over on DU, Retribution is the most important function of Prison. maxsolomon Nov 2022 #9
She has to serve at least 85% of her sentence. JenniferJuniper Nov 2022 #10
whoa, did not know that. maxsolomon Nov 2022 #11
In reforming the prison system, perhaps we could start elsewhere than with wealthy white criminals Orrex Nov 2022 #15
All non-violent prisoners should go to places like this mainer Nov 2022 #12
Would Trump be classified as non-violent? n/t EndlessWire Nov 2022 #16
I think the famileies of those killed at the Capitol would argue against that classification. tinrobot Nov 2022 #17
I certainly would not consider a terrorist non-violent. He *did* foment an insurrection. SoBlueInFL Nov 2022 #18
Why is this inappropriate? brooklynite Nov 2022 #13
If you have to ask the question, you won't understand the answer Orrex Nov 2022 #14
OMD NJCher Nov 2022 #19

JenniferJuniper

(4,515 posts)
3. White collar federal prisoners,
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:58 PM
Nov 2022

male or female, usually go to minimum security prisons. She's not likely to be the cause of any security problems.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,529 posts)
4. Given the sentence, this facility seems to be inappropriate
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:58 PM
Nov 2022

Holmes was convicted of some serious charges and should not be given special privileges

GoCubsGo

(32,087 posts)
5. She still has plenty of time to flee to a non-extradition country.
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 02:58 PM
Nov 2022

She is free until the end of April. I'm betting she finds a way to sneak out. She may or may not be "brilliant." But, she is definitely a criminal. Here's hoping she actually sees hard time.

catbyte

(34,440 posts)
7. Holmes is brilliant at bullshit, I'll give her that. She managed to recruit the likes of
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 03:03 PM
Nov 2022

Henry Kissinger, George Schultz, Sam Nunn, William Frist, and James Mattis to sit on the Theranos board of Directors even though she didn't know squat about what she was attempting to build. Her main talent appears to be charming powerful white men and I'm guessing that the judge is one of them.

missingthebigdog

(1,233 posts)
8. The focus shouldn't be on why she shouldn't go there
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 04:25 PM
Nov 2022

The focus should be on why more of the people who find themselves in the correctional system aren’t sentenced to places like this.

Why should anyone be subjected to inhumane conditions? Even the most dangerous criminals should be housed and cared for in a safe and humane manner.

Honestly, if she doesn’t pose an actual threat to society, why lock her up at all? Pop an ankle monitor on her, help her find employment appropriate for her skill set, and redirect all of her earnings except for a stipend to meet her necessities to restitution.

Step one to addressing our prison problems is to lock up the people we are afraid of instead of the ones we’re just mad at.

maxsolomon

(33,397 posts)
9. As I've learned over and over on DU, Retribution is the most important function of Prison.
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 04:42 PM
Nov 2022

Sure, the other goals are nice (Rehabilitation, Deterrence, Incapacitation), but what's essential is that convicted people are made to suffer punishment, be it spartan living quarters, or extrajudicial assault, or even prison rape (for men, never for women).

Holmes will probably get sent to Bryan, and she'll probably get out in 3-5 years. Then we'll all have to suffer through her redemption story.

Orrex

(63,221 posts)
15. In reforming the prison system, perhaps we could start elsewhere than with wealthy white criminals
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 09:19 PM
Nov 2022

Do they, in the aggregate, represent the most frequently abused and over-jailed demographic? I suspect not, and as such they should be afforded no priority in assigning these cushy "sorry to inconvenience you" sentences.

I'm all for rehabilitation and for lessening the brutal for-profit model of punishment that's been guiding American prisons for well over a century. It just seems silly and, in fact, part of of the problem to coddle wealthy white criminals first, whether they're bilking investors out of billions or raping unconscious women behind dumpsters.

Until these gentle sentences apply equally to all offenders, then it is impossible to look at a case like this honestly without seeing it as obvious preferential treatment, especially when the judge goes out of their way to kiss the criminal's ass during sentencing.

mainer

(12,029 posts)
12. All non-violent prisoners should go to places like this
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 06:25 PM
Nov 2022

I have no objections to this. I just wish others had the chance.

brooklynite

(94,721 posts)
13. Why is this inappropriate?
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 09:10 PM
Nov 2022

Prison assignments aren’t based on white collar vs blue collar crimes. They’re based on likely behavior, propensity for violence, and need for and availability of services.

NJCher

(35,721 posts)
19. OMD
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:08 AM
Nov 2022
They’re based on likely behavior, propensity for violence, and need for and availability of services.

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