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Thu Nov 24, 2022, 07:11 AM

When Trump was elected president this fact scared the hell out me for good reason.

Anyone who works in the White House has to pass a security clearance. The cook, the custodian, have to pass a security clearance. If Trump applied for any job at the White House before he was president, he would not get that job because he would have failed a security clearance.

The Trump voters ignored this simple fact and look where we are now. Trump stole secret documents. It is unbelievable how the Trump voters ignored how extraordinarily unqualified, corrupt, Trump was for president.


Trump voters will become infamous for all time. History is going to be very cruel to them.

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Reply When Trump was elected president this fact scared the hell out me for good reason. (Original post)
fightforfreedom Thursday OP
Joinfortmill Thursday #1
ashredux Thursday #2
Hope22 Thursday #7
MLAA Thursday #26
2naSalit Thursday #3
calimary Thursday #18
gab13by13 Thursday #4
speak easy Thursday #5
mnmoderatedem Thursday #13
Maraya1969 Thursday #6
Zambero Thursday #15
calimary Thursday #19
SergeStorms Thursday #8
area51 Thursday #11
Ohioboy Thursday #9
Beatlelvr Thursday #14
Zambero Thursday #16
calimary Thursday #20
triron Thursday #24
doc03 Thursday #10
Traildogbob Thursday #12
czarjak Thursday #17
calimary Thursday #21
bluestarone Thursday #22
triron Thursday #23
Rhiannon12866 Thursday #25
Lasher Friday #28
Ferrets are Cool Thursday #27

Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 07:28 AM

1. And we all know at least one who voted for him...

Maybe even a friend or relative. Hard to forgive them, especially if they did it twice.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 07:33 AM

2. People who still support Trump are now beyond hope...I will not associate with them at all.

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Response to ashredux (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 08:25 AM

7. This...

And those that jump mindlessly to DeSantis without taking a moment to think…is my picker broken?

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Response to ashredux (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:11 PM

26. I'm with you.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 07:35 AM

3. History is going to be very cruel to them.

As it should be. Lessons must be learned.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:59 AM

18. Okay by me.

Well deserved. And TREMENDOUSLY okay by me.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 07:50 AM

4. Also, Jared and Ivanka were denied top security clearances

so Trump simply gave them the clearances where they had access to top secret documents.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 07:57 AM

5. Like stuff about the Saudis

and they cashed right in.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:31 AM

13. and many others were granted access as well, after being denied

but no reaction from the lock her up crowd, as expected.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 08:24 AM

6. He also tried to force another country to help him in his second election by refusing

air to their military.

And he tried to overthrow our government.

There should be a law that anyone who runs for president should first pass a security check. Otherwise how do we know if they are a foreign agent or not? Look at how many we in the Trump administration.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:36 AM

15. Not grounds for his removal however, per most Senate GOP members

Bill Clinton's consensual sex fib was far worse. Just ask Lindsey!

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Response to Zambero (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:00 AM

19. I can think of a few things I'd like to ask Lindsey.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 08:42 AM

8. These are only the things we're certain of.

How many of our nation's secrets, and secrets of our allies, were stolen, sold, or will be sold to our enemies?

We know nothing of what the orange traitor gave to his man-crush, Vladimir Putin, because he insisted on being alone whenever they were together, even to the point of using Putin's interpreter exclusively.

His cult doesn't even question that, because to them their orange messiah could do no wrong. He was - as the orange traitor loves to say - perfect.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:16 AM

11. +1 n/t

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:05 AM

9. With all that Trump has done it's amazing he's even allowed to run again

It's even more amazing that he would have followers. I used to wonder how guys like Hitler ever came to power; I don't anymore.

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Response to Ohioboy (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:32 AM

14. Exactly!

He was impeached TWICE for crissake, why is he even allowed to run ?? And lets not forget, he lost the popular vote twice also. What a country.

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Response to Beatlelvr (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:38 AM

16. Two lost elections adding up to -10,000,000

What a "winner"!

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Response to Ohioboy (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:02 AM

20. Yep. He's just the next case history.

And the latest cautionary tale.

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Response to Ohioboy (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:56 AM

24. The stupidity or gullibility of the public.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:14 AM

10. Trump palled around with the likes of Paul Manafort and Mike Flynn and even

had enemy agents staying at Mara Lardo.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:28 AM

12. They could care less

About History. They will control the storyline and the school lessons. Outlawed like CRT. They will create a Holiday with a massive feast of Cheese Berders and Chocolate cake, military parade through New York, celebrating the coming together of the two sides, white washing the land theft, brutality, rape and murder of the white MurKKKa side. No damn Black Friday shit. Will be a White one with massive discounts of gun sales. Merry Trump Day. No Turkeys, Vultures. (Wall Street ones, with lots of Pardons)

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:45 AM

17. History can't punish misdeeds. N-O-W would be a good time for punishment.

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Response to czarjak (Reply #17)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:02 AM

21. Indeed.

It wouldn’t be merely satisfying, it would be truly justified.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:04 AM

22. Very scary for sure!

Actually, under our presidential powers of today,i believe the president can give top clearance to ANYBODY? So Couldn't TFG, (if elected) give the prince of Saudi Arabia (or anybody he chooses) full clearance? Heaven help us if this fucker EVER holds any type of future power(

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:54 AM

23. Do not underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 08:36 PM

25. NYT 2/28/19: Trump Ordered Officials to Give Jared Kushner a Security Clearance

The president’s son-in-law has traveled around the world, conducting high-level work on behalf of the White House. Yet intelligence officials raised concerns related to his security clearance.

WASHINGTON — President Trump ordered his chief of staff to grant his son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, a top-secret security clearance last year, overruling concerns flagged by intelligence officials and the White House’s top lawyer, four people briefed on the matter said.

Mr. Trump’s decision in May so troubled senior administration officials that at least one, the White House chief of staff at the time, John F. Kelly, wrote a contemporaneous internal memo about how he had been “ordered” to give Mr. Kushner the top-secret clearance.

The White House counsel at the time, Donald F. McGahn II, also wrote an internal memo outlining the concerns that had been raised about Mr. Kushner — including by the C.I.A. — and how Mr. McGahn had recommended that he not be given a top-secret clearance.

The disclosure of the memos contradicts statements made by the president, who told The New York Times in January in an Oval Office interview that he had no role in his son-in-law receiving his clearance.

[snip]

Mr. Kushner has spent this week abroad working on a Middle East peace plan. Among his meetings was one with Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia.


Much more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/28/us/politics/jared-kushner-security-clearance.html

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 25, 2022, 05:51 AM

28. He did the same thing for Ivanka.

Just as soon as Jared got his clearance, he kept asking for more and more classified documents. He couldn't get enough, according to my memory. Maybe that was most chilling of all.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:01 PM

27. What is even worse is that it is common knowledge and yet he is still a free man.

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