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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 08:11 AM Nov 2022

When Trump was elected president this fact scared the hell out me for good reason.

Anyone who works in the White House has to pass a security clearance. The cook, the custodian, have to pass a security clearance. If Trump applied for any job at the White House before he was president, he would not get that job because he would have failed a security clearance.

The Trump voters ignored this simple fact and look where we are now. Trump stole secret documents. It is unbelievable how the Trump voters ignored how extraordinarily unqualified, corrupt, Trump was for president.


Trump voters will become infamous for all time. History is going to be very cruel to them.

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When Trump was elected president this fact scared the hell out me for good reason. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Nov 2022 OP
And we all know at least one who voted for him... Joinfortmill Nov 2022 #1
People who still support Trump are now beyond hope...I will not associate with them at all. ashredux Nov 2022 #2
This... Hope22 Nov 2022 #7
I'm with you. MLAA Nov 2022 #26
History is going to be very cruel to them. 2naSalit Nov 2022 #3
Okay by me. calimary Nov 2022 #18
Also, Jared and Ivanka were denied top security clearances gab13by13 Nov 2022 #4
Like stuff about the Saudis speak easy Nov 2022 #5
and many others were granted access as well, after being denied mnmoderatedem Nov 2022 #13
He also tried to force another country to help him in his second election by refusing Maraya1969 Nov 2022 #6
Not grounds for his removal however, per most Senate GOP members Zambero Nov 2022 #15
I can think of a few things I'd like to ask Lindsey. calimary Nov 2022 #19
These are only the things we're certain of. SergeStorms Nov 2022 #8
+1 n/t area51 Nov 2022 #11
With all that Trump has done it's amazing he's even allowed to run again Ohioboy Nov 2022 #9
Exactly! Beatlelvr Nov 2022 #14
Two lost elections adding up to -10,000,000 Zambero Nov 2022 #16
Yep. He's just the next case history. calimary Nov 2022 #20
The stupidity or gullibility of the public. triron Nov 2022 #24
Trump palled around with the likes of Paul Manafort and Mike Flynn and even doc03 Nov 2022 #10
They could care less Traildogbob Nov 2022 #12
History can't punish misdeeds. N-O-W would be a good time for punishment. czarjak Nov 2022 #17
Indeed. calimary Nov 2022 #21
Very scary for sure! bluestarone Nov 2022 #22
Do not underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. triron Nov 2022 #23
NYT 2/28/19: Trump Ordered Officials to Give Jared Kushner a Security Clearance Rhiannon12866 Nov 2022 #25
He did the same thing for Ivanka. Lasher Nov 2022 #28
What is even worse is that it is common knowledge and yet he is still a free man. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2022 #27

Joinfortmill

(14,416 posts)
1. And we all know at least one who voted for him...
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 08:28 AM
Nov 2022

Maybe even a friend or relative. Hard to forgive them, especially if they did it twice.

Hope22

(1,817 posts)
7. This...
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:25 AM
Nov 2022

And those that jump mindlessly to DeSantis without taking a moment to think…is my picker broken?

gab13by13

(21,304 posts)
4. Also, Jared and Ivanka were denied top security clearances
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 08:50 AM
Nov 2022

so Trump simply gave them the clearances where they had access to top secret documents.

mnmoderatedem

(3,724 posts)
13. and many others were granted access as well, after being denied
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:31 AM
Nov 2022

but no reaction from the lock her up crowd, as expected.

Maraya1969

(22,478 posts)
6. He also tried to force another country to help him in his second election by refusing
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:24 AM
Nov 2022

air to their military.

And he tried to overthrow our government.

There should be a law that anyone who runs for president should first pass a security check. Otherwise how do we know if they are a foreign agent or not? Look at how many we in the Trump administration.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
15. Not grounds for his removal however, per most Senate GOP members
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:36 AM
Nov 2022

Bill Clinton's consensual sex fib was far worse. Just ask Lindsey!

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
8. These are only the things we're certain of.
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:42 AM
Nov 2022

How many of our nation's secrets, and secrets of our allies, were stolen, sold, or will be sold to our enemies?

We know nothing of what the orange traitor gave to his man-crush, Vladimir Putin, because he insisted on being alone whenever they were together, even to the point of using Putin's interpreter exclusively.

His cult doesn't even question that, because to them their orange messiah could do no wrong. He was - as the orange traitor loves to say - perfect.

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
9. With all that Trump has done it's amazing he's even allowed to run again
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:05 AM
Nov 2022

It's even more amazing that he would have followers. I used to wonder how guys like Hitler ever came to power; I don't anymore.

Beatlelvr

(618 posts)
14. Exactly!
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:32 AM
Nov 2022

He was impeached TWICE for crissake, why is he even allowed to run ?? And lets not forget, he lost the popular vote twice also. What a country.

doc03

(35,325 posts)
10. Trump palled around with the likes of Paul Manafort and Mike Flynn and even
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:14 AM
Nov 2022

had enemy agents staying at Mara Lardo.

Traildogbob

(8,716 posts)
12. They could care less
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:28 AM
Nov 2022

About History. They will control the storyline and the school lessons. Outlawed like CRT. They will create a Holiday with a massive feast of Cheese Berders and Chocolate cake, military parade through New York, celebrating the coming together of the two sides, white washing the land theft, brutality, rape and murder of the white MurKKKa side. No damn Black Friday shit. Will be a White one with massive discounts of gun sales. Merry Trump Day. No Turkeys, Vultures. (Wall Street ones, with lots of Pardons)

bluestarone

(16,906 posts)
22. Very scary for sure!
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:04 AM
Nov 2022

Actually, under our presidential powers of today,i believe the president can give top clearance to ANYBODY? So Couldn't TFG, (if elected) give the prince of Saudi Arabia (or anybody he chooses) full clearance? Heaven help us if this fucker EVER holds any type of future power(

Rhiannon12866

(205,202 posts)
25. NYT 2/28/19: Trump Ordered Officials to Give Jared Kushner a Security Clearance
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:36 PM
Nov 2022
The president’s son-in-law has traveled around the world, conducting high-level work on behalf of the White House. Yet intelligence officials raised concerns related to his security clearance.

WASHINGTON — President Trump ordered his chief of staff to grant his son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, a top-secret security clearance last year, overruling concerns flagged by intelligence officials and the White House’s top lawyer, four people briefed on the matter said.

Mr. Trump’s decision in May so troubled senior administration officials that at least one, the White House chief of staff at the time, John F. Kelly, wrote a contemporaneous internal memo about how he had been “ordered” to give Mr. Kushner the top-secret clearance.

The White House counsel at the time, Donald F. McGahn II, also wrote an internal memo outlining the concerns that had been raised about Mr. Kushner — including by the C.I.A. — and how Mr. McGahn had recommended that he not be given a top-secret clearance.

The disclosure of the memos contradicts statements made by the president, who told The New York Times in January in an Oval Office interview that he had no role in his son-in-law receiving his clearance.

[snip]

Mr. Kushner has spent this week abroad working on a Middle East peace plan. Among his meetings was one with Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia.


Much more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/28/us/politics/jared-kushner-security-clearance.html

Lasher

(27,573 posts)
28. He did the same thing for Ivanka.
Fri Nov 25, 2022, 06:51 AM
Nov 2022

Just as soon as Jared got his clearance, he kept asking for more and more classified documents. He couldn't get enough, according to my memory. Maybe that was most chilling of all.

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