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Thu Nov 24, 2022, 08:49 AM

Anybody ever heard of a Repentant Nazi? I haven't.

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Reply Anybody ever heard of a Repentant Nazi? I haven't. (Original post)
raccoon Nov 24 OP
NutmegYankee Nov 24 #1
sop Nov 24 #5
sop Nov 24 #2
lark Nov 24 #4
Bernardo de La Paz Nov 24 #3
Igel Nov 24 #16
llashram Nov 24 #6
TigressDem Nov 24 #7
Polybius Nov 24 #12
TigressDem Nov 24 #13
Polybius Nov 24 #14
unweird Nov 24 #8
sop Nov 24 #9
msfiddlestix Nov 24 #10
Fla_Democrat Nov 24 #11
Trailrider1951 Nov 24 #15
Kennah Nov 24 #17
whistler162 Nov 24 #18
raccoon Friday #19

Response to raccoon (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:00 AM

1. Albert Speer?

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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:12 AM

5. Wernher von Braun?

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:00 AM

2. They called themselves "Good Germans" back then.

Many Germans, during and after WWII, claimed they never supported the Nazis.

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Response to sop (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:08 AM

4. A lot of them lied later.

If they weren't enthusiastically pro-Nazi they had to be good pretenders because everyone was being watched.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:08 AM

3. I have. Repentant US Nazi, about 10 years ago. Which shows how rare it is


There are more than supposed because most repentant nazis would sooner not hear about it ever again.

But if you are referring to a context (football owner? fashion designer? California state rep?) you would include it. But then again, maybe you are just venting and don't want discussion.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:54 PM

16. Don't know.

A few German Nazis that came to the US lived here as good citizens, with jobs and families, for decades before being outed as former camp guards (or whatever), only to be deported in tears. (Their official crime: They came here and didn't have proper authorization to immigrate because they lied on their documentation.)

Now, at the same time there's a sampling problem. How many hundreds or thousands of Nazis have you seen interviewed when they were in a position to show regret or remorse?

Me?

I've see the few German Nazis that came to the US and who lived .... Too small a sample to be meaningful, were it a random sample; but it wasn't a random sample, it was geriatric Nazis put in a position of being deported and leaving the families behind when they had no kin in their homeland--both a great reason to lie, or perhaps to reconsider, or maybe just be in the spotlight and saw what they thought in '48.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:14 AM

6. Nuremburg

trials of the nazis proved that. When the American nazi(Musolina grade) that lost in 2020 will be the same. Stephen Miller of caging immigrant children infamy and the rest that is still trying to overthrow democracy. The American nazis are even in Brazil advising Bolsanro on how to lie and cheat American style to win his lost election.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:20 AM

7. Pope Benedict? Sort of?

https://abcnews.go.com/International/pope-benedict-dogged-nazi-past-achievements-jewish-relations/story?id=18469350


I didn't like him as Pope, or as a person, especially after I found this out.


I THINK I WOULD ASSESS HIS "repentance" as AKIN to a DRY-Drunk, when someone stops the behavior, but still has the underlying problem(s) that caused it and does NOT address those and so isn't in FULL RECOVERY.





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Response to TigressDem (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:03 PM

12. He was still a kid though

It was pretty much forced on him.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:17 PM

13. He served as an adult too and was a conservative like John Paul II who tried to roll back Vatican II

After Vatican II the Catholic Church decided to embrace at least their Christian counterparts and have Ecumenical cooperation.

John Paul started having seminary teach those going into the Priesthood that ONLY CATHOLICS go to Heaven again.

Pushing for Pius to gain sainthood is the spiritual equivalent slap to Jewish Survivors as erecting a statue of General Lee is a slap to people against slavery, it shows your bias.


https://abcnews.go.com/International/pope-benedict-dogged-nazi-past-achievements-jewish-relations/story?id=18469350

Joseph Ratzinger had joined the Hitler youth as a 14-year-old and went on to serve in the German military, as six million Jews were sent off to the death camps.

But the role of the Catholic Church and most particularly the silence of Pope Pius XII, who served from 1939 to 1958, as millions went off to the gas chambers has dogged Benedict, despite being viewed as a friend by those who are Jewish.

Both Pope John Paul II and Benedict pushed for Pius to gain sainthood.


In 2007, Jewish leaders criticized Benedict for lifting restrictions on the old form of Latin mass, which included prayers for Jews to "be delivered from their darkness" and converted to Catholicism.

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Response to TigressDem (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:29 PM

14. Interesting article

He was born in 1927, and turned 18 in April, 1945.Was he out of the German military by then? I couldn't find out from the link.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:23 AM

8. American History X

Yeah, sure itís a movie but there is a journey to repentance there for a nazi.

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Response to unweird (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:28 AM

9. Probably Ed Norton's most powerful acting job.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:47 AM

10. Yeah, 1 person, saw film documentary on him and his turn around

but it was a number of years ago, and I do not remember his name. Can't even remember if it was Neflix or PBS or maybe it was 60 minutes?

But yeah, one person. and he seemed really sincere.




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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:13 AM

11. Operation Paperclip?







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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:38 PM

15. How about Oskar Schindler?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Schindler

He repented by saving his Jewish workers from the gas chambers.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 01:05 PM

17. Gary Ridgway apologized, so sure, why not

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Response to whistler162 (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 25, 2022, 05:11 PM

19. Thank you and the others for your responses.

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