The Big Lie Dies! Welcome back, Truth, we missed you.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

Once established, to paraphrase a certain very evil man, the BL must be kept alive at all cost. The death of a BL will collapse all the lies and destroy the fascism, dead. An imperative it lives.

Only evil men deploy the psychological weapons of evil for personal gain. It’s not just in America, ofc, it’s become the popular kid dictator’s political go to…America led the way!

Much evidence of the evil election BL BS the granddaddy of them all, is on life support.

Witness the latest, Gov. Ducey removing the IV drip yesterday? Not many drips left.

It feels like a great burden lifted. It must never be allowed to burden any nation again.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

1. +100.

[TigressDem]

2. +1,000,000 nt

[TigressDem]

3. K&R K& R K&R K&R K& R K&R K&R K& R K&R

[malaise]

4. Down memoriy lane with Ducey

There was a moment after it became clear that Kari Lake would be the Republican Party’s nominee for Arizona governor, when it seemed as if Doug Ducey, Arizona’s current governor, had grown a spine.

Ducey is the co-chairman of the Republican Governors Association (RGA), but he was an ardent supporter of Lake’s opponent, Karrin Taylor Robison, calling Lake a “fake,” saying she was “misleading voters” about election integrity and claiming that her whole campaign was “an act.”


https://www.yahoo.com/news/arizona-gov-doug-ducey-lying-150017441.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALswuUud8SDe9aiK2pJTSwu4lOukQ7NFXJ_j8lrEsmZgj8AcCVGNDe39HRFBZnNdZycURb3TTCvF8Sp-81gE4izxMBbvEuoBp6GqxMshGECZNfsE0i6piRuet18f74cYlX1M0nvsqB4FhuPu8YGlfxZN3hTirsMmv3cIS8KaYQTL

[Alexander Of Assyria]

11. Then the internet monkeys threatened him via internet monkey chat and he turned tail.

[sop]

6. Don't worry, the Big Lie will be replaced with something just as dangerous soon enough.

[czarjak]

7. The biggest lie: "I'm a great Christian"

[wryter2000]

18. And it's corollary...

If you disagree with any of my BS, you're not a Christian.

[KPN]

27. +1000000

and an even bigger lie: the United States of America was intentionally and specifically founded as a Christian nation.

[kentuck]

8. Trump is attempting to use Kari Lake to keep the Big Lie alive.

So long as they can accuse the other side of cheating and convince their people that the election was rigged, they can keep it alive.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

10. I read that they are not going to allege straight out fraud. Courts will demand evidence!

They have none.

They want some voting machines handed to them based on an early problem with some tabulators. Bunch of other stuff that amounts to whining about procedure, technical stuff that’s carbon copy of past failed suits after 2020. But that was resolved openly and the votes counted.

But ofc the underpinning is stolen election! Kill the election workers, burn to the ground! Hateful bastards and their hateful social media monkeys,

Hanging on to the BL by a tainted painted toenail in the desert.

[mopinko]

9. disagree about how it started.

it's a playbook all dictators have used forever. that's cuz it's our genetic heritage.
there's a rule in biology- phylogeny recapitulates ontology. the development of the individual mirrors the development of the species. and this behavior comes from our earliest ancestors.
early human groups had 'headmen'. what we think of as tribal culture. they didnt need to gin up fear, threats were everywhere. and coalescing around a leader at times of danger is how we took over the world.
all that wiring exists in us all. in times of stress, it kicks in. when stress is never ending in your world, you start grasping for a leader.
it's how all this works. and i sometimes have a hard time wrapping my head around how we still dont get it.

[ancianita]

14. I really dig this great explanation.

except for the part about 'biology is destiny.' though the wiring indeed exists in us all. strongman safety has dominated across time, and so the wiring kicks in as we look for strongman safety. There has also been across time, the competing wiring about 'looking for the helpers' -- the collective strength that helps us adapt and survive. We cultivate the inheriting of that other kind of wiring in our willed systems of equality of rights of life, liberty, peace on earth, etc. we may yet find that that wiring to collective de-stressing serves humanity and our descendants better

[calimary]

16. This is another great explanation.

Perhaps several dynamics at work at the same time?

[ancianita]

17. ty

Why not? Nature works that way.

[stopdiggin]

19. thank you

Yes, a valuable explanation for our 'human wiring.' But, as you point out, there have also always been competing (and countervailing) forces within us as well. The human species would not have advanced nearly so far if they had only the headman' or strongman as model and driving force.
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[ancianita]

25. I'm reminded of the old (Mother) Africa saying:

If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.

In the blip of universe time, I think we've passed on the wiring to do the latter.

[mopinko]

23. we know.

it goes like this- a fetus tests its environment all the time. it measures it's mom's adrenaline levels. it adapts it's development to the environment it is about to enter.
stress is high? more fast twitch muscle, heightened fight or flight adaptations. it's dangerous to be altruistic here.
low? 'higher functions'. think- artists and thinkers hardware. and it's safe to be a good person.

this continues in early development. stress can be anything, tho poverty is the most common problem. but it could be a well-to-do mom who is sick, or taking care of an ailing parent.
side note- i think at about 2-3, all kids lie. i think this is a test. do they see me? hear me? r they paying attention? if u get away w lies, you know you have to harden up. you arent in a good place.

how we treat babies and moms is and always has been the key to it all.

[ancianita]

24. Agree. You are well read. Thank you.

[Bongo Prophet]

26. Small correction - should be ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny

It's early for me, but I tripped over the phrase, wondering how phylogeny (evolution of a group or species) could recapitulate ontology (the study of reality).

If I were more awake and in a philosophical frame of mind, I could have a lot of fun with that concept! Sounds like a good premise for a short story.

Thanks for the heady meta-thought about human bio-psychology though. Enjoyed the neurons getting all shook up before coffee!

[mopinko]

28. thx. college biology was a long time ago.

i've pulled that out several times. i wonder how often i had it backwards.
human behavior is 1 of my fave topics.

[Ron Green]

12. If you want to know what are the Biggest Lies (and the Biggest Truths)

They are the things no politicians will utter.

[Chainfire]

13. And the big lie said, "The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."

It still lives in the hearts and minds of millions of Americans.

[TheRickles]

15. Bolsonaro also gave up on the Big Lie, until he didn't. Looks like he's having a second go at it now

[peppertree]

20. Fortunately, Brazil's Electoral Court gave him a big 'Vai tomar no cu!'

https://www.democraticunderground.com/110883012

We need something like an electoral high court here; many democracies have it - and they've (usually) helped defuse many a serious dispute.

Our toothless FEC ain't cutting it.

[Captain Zero]

21. Sure he is. Bannon and Stephen Miller showed up

in Brazil. Surprised?

[Just A Box Of Rain]

22. Railing about "rigged elections" is SOP for populist demagogues.

Be ever vigilant.