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Thu Nov 24, 2022, 08:57 AM

The Big Lie Dies! Welcome back, Truth, we missed you.

Once established, to paraphrase a certain very evil man, the BL must be kept alive at all cost. The death of a BL will collapse all the lies and destroy the fascism, dead. An imperative it lives.

Only evil men deploy the psychological weapons of evil for personal gain. It’s not just in America, ofc, it’s become the popular kid dictator’s political go to…America led the way!

Much evidence of the evil election BL BS the granddaddy of them all, is on life support.

Witness the latest, Gov. Ducey removing the IV drip yesterday? Not many drips left.

It feels like a great burden lifted. It must never be allowed to burden any nation again.

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Reply The Big Lie Dies! Welcome back, Truth, we missed you. (Original post)
Alexander Of Assyria Nov 24 OP
MarineCombatEngineer Nov 24 #1
TigressDem Nov 24 #2
TigressDem Nov 24 #3
malaise Nov 24 #4
Alexander Of Assyria Nov 24 #11
malaise Nov 24 #5
sop Nov 24 #6
czarjak Nov 24 #7
wryter2000 Nov 24 #18
KPN Nov 24 #27
kentuck Nov 24 #8
Alexander Of Assyria Nov 24 #10
mopinko Nov 24 #9
ancianita Nov 24 #14
calimary Nov 24 #16
ancianita Nov 24 #17
stopdiggin Nov 24 #19
ancianita Nov 24 #25
mopinko Nov 24 #23
ancianita Nov 24 #24
Bongo Prophet Nov 24 #26
mopinko Nov 24 #28
Ron Green Nov 24 #12
Chainfire Nov 24 #13
TheRickles Nov 24 #15
peppertree Nov 24 #20
Captain Zero Nov 24 #21
Just A Box Of Rain Nov 24 #22


Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:04 AM

2. +1,000,000 nt

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Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:05 AM

3. K&R K& R K&R K&R K& R K&R K&R K& R K&R

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Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:05 AM

4. Down memoriy lane with Ducey

There was a moment after it became clear that Kari Lake would be the Republican Party’s nominee for Arizona governor, when it seemed as if Doug Ducey, Arizona’s current governor, had grown a spine.

Ducey is the co-chairman of the Republican Governors Association (RGA), but he was an ardent supporter of Lake’s opponent, Karrin Taylor Robison, calling Lake a “fake,” saying she was “misleading voters” about election integrity and claiming that her whole campaign was “an act.”


https://www.yahoo.com/news/arizona-gov-doug-ducey-lying-150017441.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALswuUud8SDe9aiK2pJTSwu4lOukQ7NFXJ_j8lrEsmZgj8AcCVGNDe39HRFBZnNdZycURb3TTCvF8Sp-81gE4izxMBbvEuoBp6GqxMshGECZNfsE0i6piRuet18f74cYlX1M0nvsqB4FhuPu8YGlfxZN3hTirsMmv3cIS8KaYQTL

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Response to malaise (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:54 AM

11. Then the internet monkeys threatened him via internet monkey chat and he turned tail.

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Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:06 AM

6. Don't worry, the Big Lie will be replaced with something just as dangerous soon enough.

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Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:39 AM

7. The biggest lie: "I'm a great Christian"

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Response to czarjak (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:58 AM

18. And it's corollary...

If you disagree with any of my BS, you're not a Christian.

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Response to czarjak (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:04 PM

27. +1000000

and an even bigger lie: the United States of America was intentionally and specifically founded as a Christian nation.

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Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:42 AM

8. Trump is attempting to use Kari Lake to keep the Big Lie alive.

So long as they can accuse the other side of cheating and convince their people that the election was rigged, they can keep it alive.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:46 AM

10. I read that they are not going to allege straight out fraud. Courts will demand evidence!

They have none.

They want some voting machines handed to them based on an early problem with some tabulators. Bunch of other stuff that amounts to whining about procedure, technical stuff that’s carbon copy of past failed suits after 2020. But that was resolved openly and the votes counted.

But ofc the underpinning is stolen election! Kill the election workers, burn to the ground! Hateful bastards and their hateful social media monkeys,

Hanging on to the BL by a tainted painted toenail in the desert.

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Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:44 AM

9. disagree about how it started.

it's a playbook all dictators have used forever. that's cuz it's our genetic heritage.
there's a rule in biology- phylogeny recapitulates ontology. the development of the individual mirrors the development of the species. and this behavior comes from our earliest ancestors.
early human groups had 'headmen'. what we think of as tribal culture. they didnt need to gin up fear, threats were everywhere. and coalescing around a leader at times of danger is how we took over the world.
all that wiring exists in us all. in times of stress, it kicks in. when stress is never ending in your world, you start grasping for a leader.
it's how all this works. and i sometimes have a hard time wrapping my head around how we still dont get it.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:28 AM

14. I really dig this great explanation.

except for the part about 'biology is destiny.' though the wiring indeed exists in us all. strongman safety has dominated across time, and so the wiring kicks in as we look for strongman safety. There has also been across time, the competing wiring about 'looking for the helpers' -- the collective strength that helps us adapt and survive. We cultivate the inheriting of that other kind of wiring in our willed systems of equality of rights of life, liberty, peace on earth, etc. we may yet find that that wiring to collective de-stressing serves humanity and our descendants better

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Response to ancianita (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:52 AM

16. This is another great explanation.

Perhaps several dynamics at work at the same time?

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Response to calimary (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:56 AM

17. ty

Why not? Nature works that way.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:58 AM

19. thank you

Yes, a valuable explanation for our 'human wiring.' But, as you point out, there have also always been competing (and countervailing) forces within us as well. The human species would not have advanced nearly so far if they had only the headman' or strongman as model and driving force.
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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:48 AM

25. I'm reminded of the old (Mother) Africa saying:

If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.

In the blip of universe time, I think we've passed on the wiring to do the latter.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:42 AM

23. we know.

it goes like this- a fetus tests its environment all the time. it measures it's mom's adrenaline levels. it adapts it's development to the environment it is about to enter.
stress is high? more fast twitch muscle, heightened fight or flight adaptations. it's dangerous to be altruistic here.
low? 'higher functions'. think- artists and thinkers hardware. and it's safe to be a good person.

this continues in early development. stress can be anything, tho poverty is the most common problem. but it could be a well-to-do mom who is sick, or taking care of an ailing parent.
side note- i think at about 2-3, all kids lie. i think this is a test. do they see me? hear me? r they paying attention? if u get away w lies, you know you have to harden up. you arent in a good place.

how we treat babies and moms is and always has been the key to it all.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:44 AM

24. Agree. You are well read. Thank you.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:55 AM

26. Small correction - should be ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny

It's early for me, but I tripped over the phrase, wondering how phylogeny (evolution of a group or species) could recapitulate ontology (the study of reality).

If I were more awake and in a philosophical frame of mind, I could have a lot of fun with that concept! Sounds like a good premise for a short story.

Thanks for the heady meta-thought about human bio-psychology though. Enjoyed the neurons getting all shook up before coffee!

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Response to Bongo Prophet (Reply #26)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 01:25 PM

28. thx. college biology was a long time ago.

i've pulled that out several times. i wonder how often i had it backwards.
human behavior is 1 of my fave topics.

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Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:04 AM

12. If you want to know what are the Biggest Lies (and the Biggest Truths)

They are the things no politicians will utter.

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Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:04 AM

13. And the big lie said, "The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."

It still lives in the hearts and minds of millions of Americans.

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Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:36 AM

15. Bolsonaro also gave up on the Big Lie, until he didn't. Looks like he's having a second go at it now

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Response to TheRickles (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:11 AM

20. Fortunately, Brazil's Electoral Court gave him a big 'Vai tomar no cu!'

https://www.democraticunderground.com/110883012

We need something like an electoral high court here; many democracies have it - and they've (usually) helped defuse many a serious dispute.

Our toothless FEC ain't cutting it.

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Response to TheRickles (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:16 AM

21. Sure he is. Bannon and Stephen Miller showed up

in Brazil. Surprised?

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Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:21 AM

22. Railing about "rigged elections" is SOP for populist demagogues.

Be ever vigilant.

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