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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCouple leave 2 year old alone for trip to NY from SC. How long is a round trip from SC to NY?
what's not clear... how long them expected to be away . if they planned to drive right back... how long would the trip be?
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While the parents were in New York, their child was left alone in their South Carolina apartment. Exactly a week ago is when this whole situation began. An unnamed witness said that the childs father sent a text saying that he was in New York for business. After that, the apartment management did a check on the apartment, but were unable to reach anyone. When they entered the apartment, they found the baby in the living room, laying on a bed.
Fortunately, the only problem the child had was a dirty diaper. According to the police, the baby woke up and reached for a water bottle, which was empty. Eventually, the father did call the apartment complex, according to police reports. They said the father called and said he left the apartment at 6 am, saying he was only a few states away. After that, he said he thought he left the child with the mother. It was later discovered the childs mother was with the father. As a result, both parents were arrested.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/south-carolina-couple-arrested-for-leaving-two-year-old-home-alone-while-they-traveled-to-new-york/ar-AA14uKKU
Skittles
(153,150 posts)say WHAT?!?!
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(7,915 posts)too long to leave kid but curious about the state of mind to drive off leaving a two year old. for a few hours? or a day?
yardwork
(61,599 posts)Depending on where they were in SC and where they were going in NY, it could be much more.
South Carolina isn't right next to New York.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(7,915 posts)wnylib
(21,433 posts)northwestern PA to Charleston, SC. It took us 2 days of driving in the daytime, but we took the time to drive through the Skyline Drive in VA on the way. Then stayed overnight at Winchester, VA. Drove the rest of the way starting next morning.
I stayed a couple months in SC with my brother and his wife and planned on flying home. But due to an airline strike, I took a Grehound bus home. Took 2 days.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)but still, 2yrs old, you cannot be even a few HOUSES away
Joinfortmill
(14,417 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(7,915 posts)COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)And a couple of other small states like intoxication and recidivism.
phylny
(8,379 posts)I'm glad the apartment manager checked.
elleng
(130,865 posts)South Carolina is a little over 700 miles away. an 11-hour drive. Depending of course on where in NY and SC.
ProfessorGAC
(65,001 posts)Of actual driving averaging 7 mph above the limit. Since they'd have to stop to get gas at least twice & eating, it's 20 hours minimum.
More than likely closer to 23.
And the kid is TWO!!!!
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)japple
(9,822 posts)be shuffled thru the foster care system, which is abysmal no matter what state you're in. There are wonderful foster families out there, but so few and far between.
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)They should never regain custody of this child; I don't care how many parenting classes they attend. JFC.
iluvtennis
(19,851 posts)Freethinker65
(10,010 posts)Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)Jesus, what were these idiotic parents thinking?
iluvtennis
(19,851 posts)ShazzieB
(16,370 posts)The closer they are to 3, the less completely helpless they are, but even then, they're absolutely not capable of caring for themselves. This is serious child endangerment right here.
I'm dying to know what their excuse was for running off like that. If there was some reason Dad absolutely HAD to go to New York, he should have gone by himself, OR they should have taken the kid with them. It's not that hard! We took several trips with my daughter when she was small, and we managed just fine. It's not always convenient having to take care of the needs of a little one when traveling, but hardly anything about being a parent is EVER "convenient"!
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,328 posts)Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)I took my kiddo on a flight when he was about 2 mos old. He cried for a bit, then settled down. That was a business trip, and I had to take him with me because his local babysitter had the flu, and his dad was already out of town on military business, too. Fortunately, we had family to help watch him at my destination.
Took multiple car trips from the Dakotas to CA or back home to visit family in various nether regions of Podunkistan.
Once, I drove from the Dakotas to Mississippi and back with the kid when he was barely 2. By myself. By then, I was an old pro at long car trips with a young'un in tow.
NH Ethylene
(30,809 posts)Only two states away? Two ROOMS away is too far for a small toddler.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(7,915 posts)ShazzieB
(16,370 posts)Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)I wouldn't trust what my kid could get up to in his room by himself unless he was asleep.
And even then...!
Joinfortmill
(14,417 posts)Ohioboy
(3,240 posts)I swear people are losing their minds. There have always been dumb people, but it sure seems like it's worse than it's ever been. Have we as a society flushed too many mind altering chemicals down our toilets to the point where said chemicals are coming back in our drinking water? It boggles the mind!
Jedi Guy
(3,185 posts)Let's just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem sort itself out.
littlewolf
(3,813 posts)another family member to raise this child
these two should be striped of parental rights.
Joinfortmill
(14,417 posts)paleotn
(17,911 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,892 posts)Reckless Endangerment, Child Abuse, could be murder.
cornball 24
(1,475 posts)would occasionally sit outside on the front steps. I would head back inside after a little while so they wouldn't be alone. These people are disgusting! Animals take better care of their offspring.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,463 posts)Fucking no excuse for that shit,NONE!
mollie8
(162 posts)They should both face mandatory sterilization
Rural_Progressive
(1,105 posts)they could have found themselves unable to get back to SC for days.
dsc
(52,157 posts)a minimum of an hour and a half from SC.
cayugafalls
(5,640 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(5,126 posts)That they would be approved to be foster or adoptive parents LONG before most states would approve myself, a gay male in a monogamous relationship for over twenty years, not to mention being married for almost 19.
ColinC
(8,291 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)to fly out . They could easily have paid for a babysitter .
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(7,915 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)that still costs money and maybe even more so than flying.
To me it seems like the parents wanted to have some fun and enjoy the nightlife or other things they couldn't do with a child.
If it really was about business why couldn't they take the child with them ?
dflprincess
(28,075 posts)These parents are idiots.
Iggo
(47,550 posts)At least (I hope) this stunt removed them from the kids life.
womanofthehills
(8,700 posts)Since a newborn.
vanlassie
(5,670 posts)Fortunately, the only problem the child had was a dirty diaper. According to the police, the baby woke up and reached for a water bottle, which was empty.
The Only Problem? Are you kidding?
That kid already has two HUGE problems.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)She had mild dementia, but we couldn't take a chance on her getting confused in the evenings (sundowning) and wandering off, leaving the house unlocked, or burning it down. As of two years ago, we stopped leaving her alone for any amount of time during the day.
I hope the parents have brothers or sisters who can take the child instead of him being placed in the foster care system.
I hope the child grows up to be as smart as Matilda.
3catwoman3
(23,973 posts)...should be a licensed profession.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)andym
(5,443 posts)So the parents at best left their kid for a minimum 4 hours if they had turned around immediately, assuming they flew.
electric_blue68
(14,888 posts)Duppers
(28,120 posts)DFW
(54,361 posts)I wouldn't eliminate any punishment for this. Sterilization, the child placed with a foster family that really cares for it, and serious jail time for the parents, as their action would have turned into homicide if the child had not been discovered in time.
As a contrast, one time, about 30 years ago, my wife went to vote here in Germany. Our town had a computer meltdown, and had somehow moved her residence to München (Munich), down in Bavaria, at the other end of Germany. The polling place refused to let her vote because of it. She has never lived in Munich in her life. She showed them her driver's license and ID, but they said, no, our computer says you live in Munich, so you can't vote here. She was getting more than a little angry (German "civil" servants enjoy god-like status, and are assumed--by themselves, at least--to have Papal infallibility).
Finally, she told them to look up our two daughters, aged 5 and 3 at the time, and see where their residence was. Sure enough, our daughters were registered at our real house. I didn't yet have German residence, so I wasn't on their computer. My wife then said she was calling the police, as the voting officials were accusing her of child abandonment. Suddenly, they decided to let her vote. If there is one thing German "civil" servants fear more than a comet striking them, it's being demonstrably wrong.
The aftermath was that our city was agreeable to "moving" my wife "back" to our town outside Düsseldorf, but was either unwilling or unable to cancel their fictitious "previous" residence that they said she had in Munich (we never even found out where!).
Jedi Guy
(3,185 posts)Were people always this idiotic and we just didn't hear about it as much or are people getting dumber and dumber as time rolls on? It really does seem like the latter and human evolution has come to a complete standstill. It's like there are idiot scientists coming up with new and innovative ways of being stupid.
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)Those were always around, but we're hearing more about them because people talk more openly about them now. Plus, the media landscape has a much broader and deeper reach than it used to.
I remember being shocked when not only a friend's dad hauled off and punched his wife in the face right in front of his kids and me, but also when I went to my mother in distress and said we needed to call the police. Only to be told that nothing would be done, because idiots all around us believed that women were to be submissive to their husbands in all things. So if she was getting beaten, people would say she deserved it. Nothing would be done.
I had never seen anyone hit a spouse before that day, or even knew such a thing existed. Kids getting a butt-whooping, yeah, but spouses, never, But that happened in the mid-70s, before Christina Crawford's book blew the doors wide open about the extent of domestic abuse all around us.
I will say this: Plenty about being XX in this world had scared me and angered me before that day, but I had never felt so terrified and alone as a female as I did when my mother had to explain that particular reality to me. Swore for the longest time that I would never get married if it meant some jerk could beat the crap out of me, and he would get away with it because he had a gawd-given right to do that.
Jedi Guy
(3,185 posts)My dad never raised his voice to me or my mom, let alone raised a hand in anger, so to me that was just... normal behavior, how things are supposed to be. I was staying the night at a friend's house when his parents got into an argument and his dad slapped his mom. I was absolutely stunned and had no idea how to react, but he just shut down. Even though it was "normal", it still caused deep distress in him because he didn't know how to handle it.
I've been angry at my wife plenty of times, but it has never, ever occurred to me to make it physical. When we were having a very heated argument, she shoved me backwards by pushing her hands against my chest while yelling at me. My response to that was, "Do not ever put hands on me in anger again or we're done." You don't hit anyone, let alone someone you claim to love.
Men who abuse women and/or children are the lowest form of life on the planet. I'm sorry you had that experience and it affected you so deeply. But some of us guys out here are on your side.
Mysterian
(4,587 posts)They are fortunate the child didn't find some way to injure his/herself.