What would be an acceptable plea deal for Trumps crimes?

[fightforfreedom]

Because Trump is a textbook narcissist he repeats the same patterns over and over again. Trump fights, delays, any charges against him until he knows he can't win. Then he settles out of court. I believe Trump is terrified of going on trial. In his fucked up mind he thinks going on trial makes him look bad, guilty.

I believe prosecutors would rather not have a freak Trump show trial. Sooner or later all the investigations are going to come to a head. There will be talks between Trumps lawyers and prosecutors. An indictment of Trump in the secret document investigation would be very hard for Trump to win. What type of plea deal would be acceptable.

A guilty plea is a must. Fines, home confinement, lifetime ban on running for any political office would be acceptable for me at the minimum.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

1. "A guilty plea is a must."

A guilty plea is a must.

Sez who?

[Joinfortmill]

19. Most Americans.

[2naSalit]

2. Life in prison...

The alternative being hanging.

[flor-de-jasmim]

3. I want every member of congress (both houses) who enabled him to also go down.

I used to want incarceration (no social media, no contact with the outside world) as a minimum. While I would still like that, I want to see that every enabler is also dealt justice. More important than the penalty for him is a cleaning out of all the muck from both houses of Congress. We also need a deep cleansing of people he installed in various governmental agencies. If we get that, I wouldn't care if he spent the rest of his days playing golf in the Middle East.

[hlthe2b]

4. I don't want a plea deal unless it is prison and break-up (full) of his holdings/business

with full admission of guilt. No malignant narcissist is likely to agree to any of that so we have to pursue it fully. To do otherwise only emboldens the next--just as the pardon of Nixon led us to this point.

[MiHale]

5. Anything less than execution for treason...

Is unacceptable, but it’ll never happen. He won’t even get house arrest because of the current attitude about him.
“Oh my god we cannot upset 25-30% of the people in this country they might get angry and violent. The rest won’t care for too long, yeah they’ll probably get angry too but they’ll never get violent…maybe a couple useless protests that’s it.”

[bucolic_frolic]

6. ELBA /nt

[Lochloosa]

7. Take his money. It's the only thing he cares about.

[True Dough]

9. Every last penny

and ruble!

[The Roux Comes First]

23. Alas, I Fear the Attention He Has Derived From His One-Man Circus

May be almost more critical to him than the money.

I need to never see his face again.

[dutch777]

8. I keep hoping he just runs and ends up in an apartment next to Snowden

Missing that...crippling fines personally and on the business, disallowing him from future runs for any office and no longer an officer or employee of Trump Inc. and real jail time. Admittedly the last part is probably a bridge too far but one can dream.

[bluedigger]

10. Revocation of citizenship and banishment.

I think that's a fair trade for my preferred punishment - cigarettes and blindfolds in the Rose Garden at dawn.

[Joinfortmill]

20. Yes, second to prosecution, conviction, imprisonment

It's more realistic, really.

[Emile]

11. What kind of plea deal do you give traitors?

[gibraltar72]

12. A blindfold at the wall.

[hamsterjill]

13. So are we to admit that Trump is above the law?

With all due respect, you’ve posted many, many times about what you believe Garland is doing and you’ve chastised those of us who don’t believe Garland is moving fast enough.

Are we now to believe that a compromise is ALL that Garland feels he can get?

Trump is no better than other liars, thieves, murderers and traitors and he deserves no special treatment just because he occupied the White House. In my mind, the fact that he DID occupy the White House makes his crimes all the more egregious.

Nothing will satisfy me unless he goes on trial and faces a jury.

[fightforfreedom]

18. People plead guilty all the time. It's called a plea deal. It is not special treatment.

I do not understand your post.

[bluedigger]

25. Plea deals are conditional on an offer from the prosecution.

The prosecution has no legal obligation to offer a deal, and the defendant has no right to an offer.

[hamsterjill]

39. You've never understood

How many of us feel.

Many of us want the asshole to suffer because he caused suffering to others. He needs to be tried for treason and if found guilty, he needs to be executed.

Clear enough? Why is it always okay with you that the punishment for Trump be whatever we can get?

Any other ordinary citizen who had done what Trump has done would be tried and convicted and executed. Why does Trump deserve anything less? Is he better than you or me? Not in my mind he isn’t.

[Firestorm49]

29. "Do we believe that Trump is above the law?" Yes. The double standard of justice is not a myth,

We see it every day. The wealthy, their kids and families are lofted to God like status when confronted with violations of the law that send most of us to jail.

God I hate that man, but if the best that we can hope for is preventing him from any future political involvement (which I doubt could be enforced) then we’ll have to accept it.

[hamsterjill]

40. No I don't agree.

He must be held to the same standards (for once in his life) that either you or I would be held.

If that doesn’t happen, we might as well throw the law books away. Yes, privilege happens but that doesn’t make it right.

This time, it needs to be done right.

[Girard442]

14. Conviction (or a guilty plea) and actual physical incarceration in a government facility.

Anything less, he'd weasel out of it.

[doc03]

15. He won't need one he will never be convicted if he is ever charged. nt

[Atticus]

16. "On advice of counsel, I assert my right under the 5th Amendment and decline to answer

that question."

[bullimiami]

17. Confinement in mal for his remaining years. Strictly monitored communications.

Taking his money is useless as he will just grift up some more to live on.

[Thunderbeast]

31. Mara Lago, Trump Tower, Bedminster, and every other Trump asset will be lost in civil litigation.

House arrest in a guilded mansion is not sufficient for his crimes.

He will need isolated facilities inside a federal prison. He needs prison food, prison clothes, and most important, prison rules Iimiting his outside communications. That means a limited J-PAY terminal for monitored email, and a pay phone for 15 minutes a week.

Proceeds from property sales will pay for his new accommodations and supervision.

[IA8IT]

21. Tuxedo and Orange vest picking up roadside trash 60 hrs a week in every state and territory

4 f** ing ever

[Chainfire]

22. In a perfect world it would be a choice between lethal injection or firing squad. ;)

I really don't support the death penalty, regardless of how much someone deserves it.

I do not know how you could sentence someone to stay out of the public's face without jailing them. If he is ever tried, convicted and sentenced (which I really doubt) he should not be able to continue to spread hate and recruit haters. Perhaps he could be sentenced to prison and conditionally pardoned based on him keeping out of public and out of business management.

A good penalty would be banishment. My fantasy punishment for Turnip would be him penniless, friendless, and having to beg for food in a foreign slum (preferably Spanish speaking) where nobody knew, or cared, who he once was.

[MiniMe]

24. I would be happy if he would just shut up and go away

And we'd never hear from him again.

[llashram]

26. if treason is involved

25 years to life. All other NY felonies whatever the law allows maximums. To hell with trump.

[Ohio Joe]

27. The mob boss doesn't get a deal - nt

[SalamanderSleeps]

28. People all over the world lost their lives due to his actions, or lack thereof

After a sentence of life in prison here it would only be fair that he make a stop at the Hague for final disposition.

Perhaps, Germany could crank up Spandau Prison again.

[MichMan]

30. Seems like there are some that wish to reinstate the Federal death penalty

Is that worth considering? I wouldn't have thought it was remotely possible, but if the congress and the president get behind it, it might be possible to get some support from the other side.

[keithbvadu2]

32. Make him governor of Arkansas (second choice - Texas).

Make him governor of Arkansas (second choice - Texas).

[William769]

33. Life in prison

without the possibility of parole for the rest of his miserable life.

[greatauntoftriplets]

34. No plea deal.

I doubt that he'd ever cop a plea anyway. His ego is too big to admit wrongdoing.

[niyad]

35. I cannot say out loud. Agent mikey would get upset.

[chriscan64]

36. What is the average prison time for one classified document?

Multiply that by the number of documents, served back to back with no parole. An acceptable plea bargain to me would be few years taken off of that but still ending up as a life sentence. Basically, less overlap with the sentence and his time in Hell.

[Prairie_Seagull]

37. Should be made and example of.

In the near future, teach it in high schools and use his very negative example of the delicacy of democracy to help inspire more voting in all groups. In a more perfect union we world all see his chaotic downfall. Use it as a teaching moment.

I think we need to see the DOJ work as it should. Attempt at least to repair and maybe even strengthen some of the fading pillars of democracy.

[Takket]

38. the conditions i would put on a deal would never be accepted........

I would want evidence that leads to the indictment of:
Guiliani
Stone
Powell
Ellis
Wood
Eastman
MTG
Gaetz
Hawley

and everyone else that was an architect of the coup and the attempt to overthrow the election

He would have to agree to 10 years in prison minimum for his role

He would have to agree to give a nationally televised speech where he clearly lays out that Biden won the election and the coup was the result of his stochastic terrorism all based on lies.

He would have to cop to Russia collusion from the Mueller investigation.

He would have to admit he has no knowledge of anything in "Hillary's emails" that is illegal and admit that was all a scam

As you can see.... the bar I'd set to avoid trial is completely unreachable.

[Maru Kitteh]

41. Who enforces that lifetime ban? Constitutionally, is that not

achievable only through the mechanism of a conviction in the Senate following impeachment in the house?

I would remind everyone that not so long ago, Lyndon LaRouche ran from PRISON. Because he could.

[canetoad]

42. Ritual suicide. nt