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In It to Win It

(8,254 posts)
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 11:04 PM Nov 2022

Clarence Thomas was 'key' to a plan to delay certification of 2020 election, Trump lawyers said in e

Clarence Thomas was ‘key’ to a plan to delay certification of 2020 election, Trump lawyers said in emails

CNN


CNN — A lawyer for former President Donald Trump described Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas as “key” to Trump’s plan to delay Congress’ certification of President Joe Biden’s victory through litigation after the 2020 election, according to emails recently turned over to the House select committee investigating January 6.

“We want to frame things so that Thomas could be the one to issue” a temporary order putting Georgia’s results in doubt, Trump attorney Kenneth Chesebro wrote in a December 31, 2020, email, adding that a favorable order from Thomas was their “only chance” to hold up Congress from counting electoral votes for Biden from Georgia.

John Eastman, another attorney for Trump, responded to that email saying he agreed with the plan. In the email exchanges with several other lawyers working on Trump’s legal team, they were discussing filing a lawsuit that they hoped would result in an order that “TENTATIVELY” held that Biden electoral votes from Georgia were not valid because of election fraud.

Having a case pending in front of the Supreme Court, Chesebro wrote, would be enough to prevent the Senate from counting Biden’s electors. Thomas would end up being “the key here,” Chesebro wrote, noting that Thomas is the justice assigned to dealing with emergency matters coming from the southeastern part of the country.


Not exactly a new article but I'm just seeing it for the first time and figured I'd post it.
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Clarence Thomas was 'key' to a plan to delay certification of 2020 election, Trump lawyers said in e (Original Post) In It to Win It Nov 2022 OP
Geebus. blue neen Nov 2022 #1
Good reminder. Cracklin Charlie Nov 2022 #2
I think that means they wanted the suit to go through Georgia Takket Nov 2022 #4
Here's hoping the J6 Committee report has a compelling section on Clarence. JudyM Nov 2022 #3
He's actually the only one of them who I think opposed to the modern representative system. David__77 Nov 2022 #5
Clarence Thomas is one truly corrupt piece of shit. Initech Nov 2022 #6
"...that whole damn party was in on it." myohmy2 Nov 2022 #8
It's probably going to take a war to root out these traitors. Initech Nov 2022 #11
Gee, wonder what they thought about Ginnie's help? MyOwnPeace Nov 2022 #7
Trial Run? yankee87 Nov 2022 #9
ARREST HIM NOW Obvious85 Nov 2022 #10
I hope Jack Smith makes the Thomas rung of the justice ladder... rubbersole Nov 2022 #12
What crime? robbob Nov 2022 #13
Right Mz Pip Nov 2022 #22
On what charges? Zeitghost Nov 2022 #20
Can we impeach him yet? calimary Nov 2022 #14
Ginni is "key" to the plan, too. dchill Nov 2022 #15
Can a Supreme court justice be removed lees1975 Nov 2022 #16
No Zeitghost Nov 2022 #21
I remember seeing it a short while back. MissMillie Nov 2022 #17
I'm not a lawyer, but what they imagined wasn't actualized, therefore it is moot. msfiddlestix Nov 2022 #18
Yes, but for me, it's just surprising that they thought that because it's so blatant In It to Win It Nov 2022 #19
Quite so. msfiddlestix Nov 2022 #23
I did In It to Win It Nov 2022 #24
I missed the entire episode. One more rabbit hole. and another 100 battles to fight. msfiddlestix Nov 2022 #25

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
2. Good reminder.
Mon Nov 28, 2022, 11:11 PM
Nov 2022

All 3 branches were in on the plan.

Now about this “want to frame things” bit…let’s hear about that part of the plan.

Takket

(21,577 posts)
4. I think that means they wanted the suit to go through Georgia
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 12:02 AM
Nov 2022

So Thomas would be the one to rule on it. So they framed it as a Georgia problem.

David__77

(23,421 posts)
5. He's actually the only one of them who I think opposed to the modern representative system.
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 12:09 AM
Nov 2022

He is the worst.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
6. Clarence Thomas is one truly corrupt piece of shit.
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 12:34 AM
Nov 2022

He needs to be thrown off the bench immediately and he and his wife arrested for helping instigate Jan. 6th. I swear that whole damn party was in on it.

myohmy2

(3,163 posts)
8. "...that whole damn party was in on it."
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 01:08 AM
Nov 2022

...and they're still in on it...

...it makes you wonder where all this is going and if we've done enough...

...I have my doubts...

yankee87

(2,173 posts)
9. Trial Run?
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 01:17 AM
Nov 2022

Wondering if this was a trial run for the 24 elections? I doubt we’ll be hearing the end of this after one failed attempt.

robbob

(3,531 posts)
13. What crime?
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 01:41 AM
Nov 2022

For goodness sakes, people; this big “reveal” came out a while back, and it seems like, for now, all we have is tRumps bumbling, incompetent lawyers speculating that Thomas will be their ally (“the key”) to holding up certification. tRumps lawyers; you know, the same dumbasses who kept insisting there was mountains of proof, except they never produced any. Among other crazy things they claimed.

Is there ANY evidence Thomas was in communication with them? Or Ginni? Are there phone logs, text messages, emails? Because I would love it if there was. But for the moment, it’s just the speculations of some crazy people.

You want them to arrest Thomas for what?

Mz Pip

(27,451 posts)
22. Right
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 12:04 PM
Nov 2022

Unless there are emails or texts to and from Thomas showing he was in on this, it’s all just speculation. No smoking gun here.

Zeitghost

(3,862 posts)
20. On what charges?
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 11:12 AM
Nov 2022

Because Trump and his band of incompetent fools thought he might be sympathetic if they framed the argument right?

How about, and I know this sounds radical to some, we get some evidence he was at least in communication with them regarding this issue, before we arrest him?

I know, I'm an old fashioned liberal who would like to see some basic evidence presented before arrest warrants are signed.


One of Trump's biggest crime was turning so many of us into them. Authoritarians itching to use the power of the State to punish all perceived enemies, regardless of due process and the rule of law.

calimary

(81,314 posts)
14. Can we impeach him yet?
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 02:04 AM
Nov 2022

Removal would be preferable but not doable as long as Republicans walk the earth.

lees1975

(3,860 posts)
16. Can a Supreme court justice be removed
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 08:15 AM
Nov 2022

Without having to impeach him? If he's charged with the crimes he's committed can the conviction keep him off the court?

MissMillie

(38,560 posts)
17. I remember seeing it a short while back.
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 09:05 AM
Nov 2022

What I note most about it was my own reaction--not surprised at all.

In fact, I'd be surprised if anyone were surprised that people were counting on Thomas to make the difference.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
18. I'm not a lawyer, but what they imagined wasn't actualized, therefore it is moot.
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 09:27 AM
Nov 2022

of course we can "know" Thomas would have gladly played his part if given the opportunity.

but obviously it didn't.
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In It to Win It

(8,254 posts)
19. Yes, but for me, it's just surprising that they thought that because it's so blatant
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 10:16 AM
Nov 2022

Last edited Tue Nov 29, 2022, 03:19 PM - Edit history (1)

They belong to the same group of people that will tell the world that the Court isn’t political when they clearly believe the justices (Thomas, specifically) will act in a political manner for them.

In It to Win It

(8,254 posts)
24. I did
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 03:23 PM
Nov 2022

I'm a frequent follower of the author. He actually wrote another piece earlier this year when this very case when SCOTUS let his order stand.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
25. I missed the entire episode. One more rabbit hole. and another 100 battles to fight.
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 09:05 PM
Nov 2022

that's the strategy, I always knew that. But I can't keep up with the crazy anymore.

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