Antiwar Activists Who Flee Russia Find Detention, Not Freedom, in the U.S.

[DickKessler]

Awful and shameful.

Like the young doctors who were held in Louisiana, many said they had come to the United States thinking they would be welcomed as allies in America’s push for democracy in Russia and Ukraine.

Olga Nikitina, who fled Russia with her husband after he was imprisoned there multiple times, spent five months in the same facility as Ms. Shemiatina. “The whole time I was there, they treated us like garbage,” said Ms. Nikitina, 33. “I called hotlines, but it did not help in any way”

Her husband, Aleksandr Balashov, 33, was detained for four months at a facility in Batavia, N.Y., where he says officers told him and others that they had no rights because they had entered the country illegally.

Ivan Sokolovski, 25, another activist, has been held at Pine Prairie for seven months. He recently lost his asylum case and said he fears that he will be deported to his death. “It would have been more humane to be shot dead at the border than to be held in prison so long,” he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/28/us/russian-activists-asylum.html

[roamer65]

1. Go back and fight Putler.

Enuff said.

[DickKessler]

2. And face certain torture and execution of themselves and their families?

[roamer65]

4. If they keep leaving, Putler just stays in power.

It is up to the Russian people to get this SOB out of power.

Revolution, assassination…don’t really care how they get the job done.

Just do it.

[DickKessler]

7. Hardly that simple. Sorry.

[roamer65]

12. Pretty easy.

Put them on the plane.

That’s what happens when you lose asylum cases.

If they are not in RuZZia trying to stop this genocide, they are to blame for it along with the rest of the RuZZian people.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

5. Such nuance.

[DickKessler]

8. I for one think fighting a murderously repressive regime is easy.

[Celerity]

11. ridiculous

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. ACAB, including ICE. Abolish it. This is a clear asylum issue.

[DickKessler]

6. Agree. And besides, aren't ICE and CBP full of MAGA loyalists?

Now THERE’S a “Deep State” for you, preparing to sabotage anything that Biden and Congressional Dems would try to accomplish, and desperate to get DJT or DeSantis or whichever fascist in the White House.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

9. No matter who's staffing them, they're oppressive and violent departments.

They're designed to be.

[DickKessler]

10. That's true, yes. DHS was created in the midst of post-9/11 fear, xenophobia, and racism.

And its predecessor agencies were dedicated to the racist and violent “War on Drugs” as is the case with so much of militarized American policing.

Ultimately these law enforcement agencies can’t help but be instruments of state violence and violations of the rights of US citizens and non-citizens alike. Because of this, I support their abolition or at the very least, top-to-bottom reform and transformation, for their present operations are incompatible with a free and just society.

[7wo7rees]

13. The "Patriot Act" passed before end of October 2001.

It had already been written, was sitting on shelf.
A few tweaks and wallah!
Patriotism and "National Security", all wrapped up in a big Red Bow.

A whole lot of propaganda.