Romney: "I certainly don't want him hanging over our party like a gargoyle."

[kpete]

“There is no bottom to the degree to which he’s willing to degrade himself, and the country for that matter. Having dinner with those people was disgusting… I voted to remove him from office twice… I don’t think he should be president of the United states. I don’t think he should be the nominee of our party in 2024. And I certainly don’t want him hanging over our party like a gargoyle.”

— Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT), quoted by NBC News, on Donald Trump having dinner with Holocaust deniers.

https://politicalwire.com/2022/11/29/quote-of-the-day-3391/

[SheltieLover]

1. Posturing for '24? It's not as if Mittens has any scruples.

[mopinko]

7. clearly.

that's why he got lds to ok the gay marriage vote.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

18. One could argue he single-handedly got the Church of LDS to change their public stance on Same-Sex

Marriage, and one could observe he voted for it. And voted yes on both impeachments.

For a Republican, Mitt's about the most scrupulous in the current crop I'd say.

He doesn't meet the standards of even an average Dem, but for a PuQ, he's relatively solid.

[mopinko]

19. i'd say he's the best shot they have of looking even halfway normal.

[Prairie_Seagull]

34. Even swamps have lillies, timing is eveything. And he is nothing if not well timed.

But a broken clock is right twice a day. (keeping with the time metaphor)

We all need to remember "corporations are people my friends" I find it difficult to let that one go. in addition the corporate raiderness of Bain capital with many loosing much due to his actions.

In this, the enemy of my enemy is my friend is about right. Although looking at the opposition party as enemies is not perfect.

[calimary]

51. I see what you did there.

[stopdiggin]

79. +1. it was just days ago that

the word was - 'will no one in the party stand up and rebuke Trump for this odious meeting with openly racist anti-Semites?'

Well, Mitt Romney has now done so in about the clearest and most straightforward possible terms. (and he's not alone in having done so either). And now the message is, 'well, it doesn't matter because - past crimes, Republican, and they're all swamp creatures.'

Well, this is me saying it does matter, folks. This is what it looks like when you have a country (or some portions of it) that is striving for standards and decency - and perhaps democracy itself. Credit where credit is due. We should be capable of that.

[dweller]

2. Like a gargoyle?

It’s an albatross, Mittens.
And it rot stinks to high heavens


✌🏻

[marble falls]

6. More like Quasimoto.

[TigressDem]

11. NO. Quasimoto only LOOKED like a monster. He had a heart. NOT A MATCH. nt

[marble falls]

14. Read the book again. Remember what he did to the King of the beggers and his army?

[TigressDem]

28. One person standing against a MOB to defend someone he loves from false imprisionment/execution?

That is how you see tRUMP? Not me.

I still think he pushed his ex down the stairs or had someone do it. He doesn't deserve to be compared to someone who only LOOKED like a monster.


King of beggars is from the movie and in both versions, Quasimodo is defending someone he loves from being taken from Sanctuary space/status that keeps her from being hanged for a crime she did not commit.
http://www.lonchaney.org/filmography/136.html

Actual story has "a group of vagabonds" attacking the Cathedral.... though their attempt is to "save" Esmeralda, Quasimodo doesn't know that. He thinks only having her in sanctuary keeps her safe from execution.
https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/hunchback/summary/

[dweller]

16. How about now ?

✌🏻

[I_UndergroundPanther]

21. Good meme

[TigressDem]

31. When has tRUMP EVER put himself in a place to DEFEND ANYONE but himself?

OR ACTUALLY PRAY FOR ANYONE?

BETTER WORDING, to be sure.



BUT FIND ME THE FREAK SHOW THAT DRIVES THIS BUS.... I am sure he is uglier than Quasimodo.

[Evolve Dammit]

41. perfect! Nicely done! And Romney's quote is pretty good....

[Captain_New_York]

33. I say a sword of Damocles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damocles

[EarlG]

3. Hey remember that time Mitt Romney had dinner with a white supremacist?

[EYESORE 9001]

4. I've seen that episode of the Twilight Zone

The one where the hapless fellow enters into an unfortunate deal with the devil.

[OAITW r.2.0]

9. LOL, my thoughts exactly!

Gotta love the lighting...from below. Mitt does look like the poor schmuck who thinks he's at a business dinner, but realizes that he's having dinner with the devil....in hell.

[Cracklin Charlie]

8. Mittens is not about to touch that food.

Trump looks like a gargoyle in this picture.

[EarnestPutz]

64. If I remember correctly, Trump ordered Frog Legs for both of them, to further humiliate poor.....

.....little Mittens.

[TigressDem]

12. Blink if you're not safe.

IDK - that is a SHOOT ME PLEASE look if I ever saw one.

[electric_blue68]

66. Mitts does have quite a look on his face! 😄 Look at the way his eyebrows are arching upwards!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

17. That was Romney fishing for Sec of State, and tRump humiliating him. . . nt

[onetexan]

49. yup, Mitt seems to have forgotten he had his opportunistic dinner with the Con too

can't make this stuff up

[Bernardo de La Paz]

50. To be fair, tRump had not been so blatant by then, nor had Charlotteville happened

However, we could tell, especially in consideration that tRump is one of very few politicians to have actually been sanctioned for racism.

(Signed consent decree in 80s over racist housing policies, broke it, and had to sign another one)

[onetexan]

53. Doesn't matter. Romney had heard the grab 'em by the.."comments and all the grotesque things the Con

had said and done. By that time he'd shown who he was yet Romney sucked up his pride and cowtowed to the most ignominious, vile & corrupt thug there ever was running for the nation's office. He knew damn well what he was getting himself into and we know why - Romney is as much an opportunist as the Con is, and he STOOPED to the Con's level by kissing his ring. Spineless & shameful.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

55. Yup. Spineless and shameful naked ambition. . . nt

[Evolve Dammit]

42. "Oh God. Someone is documenting this moment from hell"

[Tribetime]

65. What's trump eating a bowl of captain crunch

[C Moon]

72. LOL!

[LiberalLovinLug]

69. Mittens was the same as Pence. That meeting was for Mits to find any way possible to please him

In order to get on the ticket.
Just like Pence was looking for any way possible to not certify the election and kiss Trumps feet.

In the end both men just couldn't find a path to do that.

Mittens is just a little smarter than Pence in that he saw that there was no use in not making a clean break soon, while it seems like Pence for too long was still trying to find a way to get another pat on the head from his Orange master.

But Romney will also eagerly campaign for, and vote for, DeSantis. Who is the same beast, but is not lacking the political self preservation awareness to keep his mouth shut when it needs to be.

[LudwigPastorius]

70. Yeah, what is it about Republicans and psychological projection?

[uponit7771]

80. +1,

[Ocelot II]

5. An apt image, though.

[TigressDem]

13. +1,000,000 nt

[AdamGG]

48. That's a good one, but...

You don't even need to alter Trump's actual appearance to arrive at functional image of a gargoyle.

[ShazzieB]

68. Trump makes a great gargoyle.

However, this needs a water spout to be a real gargoyle. Without that, it's just a grotesque. (Yes, the adjective "grotesque" applies either way. But in this case, "grotesque" is a noun.)

Basically, grotesques are decorative stone carvings on old buildings, usually the heads of strange and ugly creatures, whereas gargoyles are spouts in the form of grotesque human or animal figures projecting from a roof gutter to throw rainwater clear of a building. Thus, the main difference between gargoyles and grotesques is that gargoyles contain a water sprout through the mouth, whereas grotesques do not.

https://pediaa.com/difference-between-gargoyles-and-grotesques

[marble falls]

10. Sorry Mitt, I remember all the Florida Man-like crap you pronounced running against Obama.

[Carlitos Brigante]

15. More like a grotesque meat goblin. nt

[I_UndergroundPanther]

24. That is the most accurate name for

That ugly orange buzzard

[gab13by13]

20. I don't watch cable

but I must give Romney credit, that is a public condemnation of Trump.

How many other Magats have said something similar?

[DallasNE]

22. Apologies To Gargoyles nt

[AZLD4Candidate]

23. Hey，Mittens Rmoney with the magic underwear. . .didn't you sell your soul to trump over dinner?

I seem to remember that.

Shut up and go back to your folders of women, scumbag.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

26. Expressions of religious bigotry aren't cool.

No less vulgar than making fun of a Jew for wearing tzitzis or a Muslim woman for wearing a hijab.

Very disappointing to read such things on DU.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

84. What about if we make fun of the QAnon people for their 'beliefs'?

Is that okay?

And if so ... why is that different from 'religious bigotry', inherently?

Is it because the widespread religions are, like, older, and they have 'holy books', and their adherents collectively own property/churches, and they have priests and rabbis and mullahs and shit like that? These sorts of things gives them imprimatur, and we just have to 'respect' them?

What if 'Q' becomes an 'official' religion, builds churches, appoints clergy, etc? Would that make it 'off-limits' for our criticism, which then becomes religious 'bigotry'?

For that matter, can we make fun of Moonies and Scientologists, and if so, why?

Hypothetical questions

[Just A Box Of Rain]

85. Are we looking for excuses to to cover up bigotry now?

Not the moral high road, methinks.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

86. No it's more I'm wondering why it's properly called 'bigotry'

When I think of bigotry I think of being hateful towards others because of things they can't control like race or skin color.

Religion is a choice, and it's just 'beliefs', which are actually entirely arbitrary and based in almost no sense in 'reality'.

Ergo, I see absolutely no difference in making fun of people for believing in magic underwear or holy water or thetans ... than I do in making fun of people who think cabals of pedophiles drink the blood of infants for their adrenochrome.

So no, I'm not making excuses ... I simply outright reject the premise that it's properly called 'bigotry'.

But then, I grant 'religious beliefs' damn near zero imprimatur ... universally.

[wnylib]

52. I think that was "binders" of women.

[LuckyLib]

25. That ship sailed long ago, Mittens.

[bucolic_frolic]

27. An Orange Gargoyle

I gotta hand it to Mitts on this one. That is striking selection of metaphor.

[TigressDem]

29. +1,000,000 nt

[jcgoldie]

30. Cue up the Trump-Gargoyle memes!

Sorry Mittens your party is a bunch of power hungry assholes without any respect for democracy what can you do?

[Marthe48]

32. does romney understand

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that traitor will never see his actions as degrading, not for himself, not for r's, not for country, not for the world.

traitor is absent of self-reflection, a souless meat sack who is a metaphor of all human weaknesses.

[gab13by13]

36. The dinner is not about Trump

it's about the Republican party condemning or not condemning it.

[Marthe48]

57. What I'm saying is

traitor will never see that a dinner with monsters degrades himself, or the r's, or the country. traitor doesn't tick like romney or other humans on the normal spectrum. If romney or any other r wants to be rid of traitor, they need to stress that it isn't because having dinner with antisemites is wrong, it is because traitor lacks human traits that make him understand it is wrong and why. Think of Hannibal Lector without the urge to eat his victims.

[mgardener]

35. The thing that angers me the most

Is they knew about Trump.
They knew what he was like.
And they nominated him and they supported him for 4 years.
They had 2 opportunities to impeach him and they refuse.
They deserve him.
But we do not deserve him for our country

[gab13by13]

37. Maybe Fuentes is a member of Mar-el-Loco?

[greatauntoftriplets]

38. Romney will be 77 in 2024.

Yet the GQP complains about Joe Biden's age.

[AdamGG]

39. If all Republicans were like Romney

Trump would have been removed from office and the country would be a much saner place. He was my Governor in Mass. (hemmed in by an 85% Democratic state legislature) and did a decent job and gave us the country's only fully fledged version of what the Affordable Care Act should be.

I didn't vote for him for President, but if the Republican party was capable of choosing more Rockefeller type Republicans like Romney and Charlie Baker and William Weld, the discourse in America would be 10,000 times less toxic. That said, you're an asshole if you drive on the highway with your dog strapped to the roof.

[stopdiggin]

82. +1. points for an even handed assessment

And, yes - more Rs like Romney (McCain and others) - and this country would not be in near the ditch it is right now. There is a difference.

[Warpy]

40. Who knew Mitt Romney would turn out to be the sane one?

It's just a measure of how batshit crazy that party has become.

I really think they'll get their civil war, but it will be in their own party. You can't fire people up with years of televangelism plus the fake tea party movement topped off by the idiotic but seductive Q nonsense and not expect violence. The big money boys made too many deals with too many devils to avoid it.

I suppose the Libertarians will pick up a lot of their voters. Those voters will turn that party into what the Republicans were before Nixon sold them to the bigots and crime bosses: decent enough but wrong.

The wackadoodles will form a series of splinter parties. They always have.

[MayReasonRule]

43. The illusion of respectability in furtherance of Romney's Nat-C Party's goals of...

Intimidation, incarceration, and/or extermination of any that dare oppose their Nat-C goals.

This is Goebells painting lipstick on the Nat-C pigs.

Do not be deceived.

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

44. Great word choice, Mittens...

... eom.

[Kennah]

45. I long for the days when Mittens was the gargoyle of the GOP

[Kennah]

46. Hell, Quayle or Nixon would be welcome

[ecstatic]

75. lol! I know, right? nt

[republianmushroom]

47. Your a day late and a dollar short, Romney

[relayerbob]

54. Little late, there, Mitt

[Pinback]

56. The Gargoyle Gallery contains quite a few ugly mugs

TFG is arguably the worst, but he’s one of many.

[BlueTsunami2018]

58. I do. I want him hanging around until we kick his ass again in '24.

He’s an albatross for them and nothing but good for us at this point. Piss Wig almost guarantees a second Biden term and a blue Congress.

[eppur_se_muova]

59. Well, that was a big gift to political cartoonists! nt

[FakeNoose]

60. There are only 3 or 4 Repukes who can honestly say this, and Mitt is one of them

Also Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger ... and (perhaps) George W. Bush.

[Ferrets are Cool]

61. Hey asswipe, HE IS YOUR PARTY

Fuck you Mitt.

[yardwork]

62. To Mitt's credit, he voted twice to impeach Trump.

[Raine]

63. When I first read that I thought by 'those people" being disgusting

he was referring to when he himself had dinner with Trump's.

[Iris]

67. Face it, Mitt, your whole party is a bunch of gargoyles

[uponit7771]

81. +1,

[Hieronymus Phact]

71. Bad analagy:

Gargoyles ward off evil spirits.
trump is an evil spirit.

[WarGamer]

73. I've gone back and forth on this...

As of TODAY, I think Trump loses in the Primary.

The GOP is flexible... DeSantis can draw in as many, if not more voters than Trump.

And CONTRARY to what some believe... Trump WILL endorse the candidate because he needs the promise of a pardon and a friendly DoJ

[ecstatic]

74. Why are some talking heads saying that Pence's statement was stronger than Romney's?

Sure, pence asked trump to apologize but trump's apologies are meaningless and it's a waste of time to even engage him in that way.

[texasfiddler]

76. Oh Mitt, the best is yet to come.

[link:|

Oh wait! that is a guilfoyle not a gargoyle.

[Skittles]

77. fuck you, Mitt

YOUR ENTIRE FUCKING PARTY STINKS

[BootinUp]

78. Romney is just a little weird. Gargoyles eh?

[Emile]

83. Someone needs to inform Romney it is the majority of the Republican party

who adore the Florida con man.