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ffr

(22,670 posts)
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 12:13 PM Nov 2022

Ruling: TFG's conduct was "purely political." Must Face January 6th Suits

Trump Loses Critical Immunity Ruling: Must Face January 6th Suits

From Bloomberg:

Donald Trump can’t claim presidential immunity to avoid a lawsuit that accuses him of civil rights violations in his efforts to undermine the results of the 2020 election, a federal judge ruled Monday...

But US District Judge Emmet Sullivan in Washington agreed with the challengers — the NAACP and Michigan voters and advocates — that Trump’s conduct was “purely political,” according to the ruling. - PoliticusUSA


Their analogy: Judges have unqualified immunity in doing their job as a judge. A judge simply cannot be sued, even if he or she wrongly sentences a person to 20 years when the maximum is two. There are other remedies, but one cannot sue the judge. If the judge gets in her car and runs a stop sign, and hits someone, the judge can be sued because she was a driver and not performing judicial duties. If the judge gave the person 20 years instead of two because the judge was paid $250K by a mob boss, she could be sued. She wasn’t a judge, she was a conspirator.

It is the same way with the presidency.
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Ruling: TFG's conduct was "purely political." Must Face January 6th Suits (Original Post) ffr Nov 2022 OP
I like the analogies. Dan Nov 2022 #1
LIKE republianmushroom Nov 2022 #2
Do judges have immunity to multigraincracker Nov 2022 #3
Good question! calimary Nov 2022 #4
you would have to prove it was a lie gopiscrap Nov 2022 #5
Good Question Wibly Nov 2022 #7
Is Trump tired of winning yet? PJMcK Nov 2022 #6
Judge Emmet Sullivan.... Hekate Nov 2022 #8
didn't even know I was suing TFG but I'm good with it. gibraltar72 Nov 2022 #9
Recommended. H2O Man Nov 2022 #10
K&R onecaliberal Nov 2022 #11

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
5. you would have to prove it was a lie
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 02:29 PM
Nov 2022

that bar is pretty high because the defense would be what was the intent at the time (did the judge intend to do or not do such and such)

even given that there was proof, it would be near impossible to impeach and convict which takes a 2/3 plus one majority in the Senate

Wibly

(613 posts)
7. Good Question
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 02:29 PM
Nov 2022

Very good question. It has always been my belief that testifying or answering questions before Congress was the equivalent of being under oath. Seems to me that misleading Congress with false statements would be considered Contempt of Congress.

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