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Rhodes' *counsel* are on CNN lying about "no evidence" of him planning an attack on the Capitol. (Original Post) sprinkleeninow Nov 2022 OP
LOL, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2022 #1
Apparently they could not convince a jury of that VMA131Marine Nov 2022 #2
Is he locked up or like all the others free until sentencing Tribetime Nov 2022 #3
He has been locked up since his arrest. Tomconroy Nov 2022 #13
Ok thank you👍 Tribetime Nov 2022 #22
You would have to be a horrible lawyer to lose a case where the state had no evidence. ;) Chainfire Nov 2022 #4
My First Thought, Too! ProfessorGAC Nov 2022 #7
He had a lawyer. Tomconroy Nov 2022 #14
Not Much Of One ProfessorGAC Nov 2022 #15
I tried to follow the case.on twitter to the extent I was able. Tomconroy Nov 2022 #16
I Believe You, But... ProfessorGAC Nov 2022 #18
I didn't see the interview but it was clear that the OKs did not Tomconroy Nov 2022 #19
I Would Guess... ProfessorGAC Nov 2022 #20
I was surprised seeing the evidence of lack of planning for the Tomconroy Nov 2022 #21
Good one! Nt spooky3 Nov 2022 #12
They are not on MSNBC. Recommend Nicolle Wallace. Hekate Nov 2022 #5
I tune into MSNBC regularly, but the TV was on this channel and I was busy deleting tons of emails. sprinkleeninow Nov 2022 #8
Fuck CNN (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2022 #6
So Mr. Counsel, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2022 #9
His *counsel* suckkked... sprinkleeninow Nov 2022 #11
Well then they absolutely suck as defense counsel... Caliman73 Nov 2022 #10
Jury thought differently mcar Nov 2022 #17

VMA131Marine

(4,139 posts)
2. Apparently they could not convince a jury of that
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 06:52 PM
Nov 2022

My response to them would have been to ask why the 12 person jury didn’t believe their arguments.

ProfessorGAC

(65,061 posts)
7. My First Thought, Too!
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 06:59 PM
Nov 2022

Isn't the guy admitting he's a bad lawyer?
That said, I thought Elmer was representing himself. Did that change & I just missed it?

ProfessorGAC

(65,061 posts)
15. Not Much Of One
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 07:56 PM
Nov 2022

The guy just admitted he lost a case for which there was no evidence.
Either he's a liar or a buffoon. Maybe both.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
16. I tried to follow the case.on twitter to the extent I was able.
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 08:04 PM
Nov 2022

It's actually much more complicated than that.
The judge at the end of the trial complimented all of the lawyers involved for their skills at representing their clients. That rarely happens in court.

ProfessorGAC

(65,061 posts)
18. I Believe You, But...
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 08:06 PM
Nov 2022

...the guy just admitted he lost a case where the state had "no evidence".
If that's accurate (and no, I don't believe it), the defense lawyer is admitting he's terrible.
Or, he's lying about there being no evidence.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
19. I didn't see the interview but it was clear that the OKs did not
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 08:14 PM
Nov 2022

Plan in advance to attack the Capitol. When they first heard of the breaking they thought it was Antifa.
They eventually went in (except Rhodes didn't) and didn't do very much, at least this group, and left. So I guess the lawyer was saying there was no evidence in advance to assault the Capitol.
I think Rhodes got convicted.because of all the stuff he was saying before Jan 6 about rebellion

He testified and it was a disaster. A couple others helped themselves by demonstrating that they were minor schmucks.
It was a complicated case.

ProfessorGAC

(65,061 posts)
20. I Would Guess...
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 08:33 PM
Nov 2022

...all that depends on whether we believe Rhodes' version of his motives and the "we thought it was Antifa" thing.
I don't believe anything he or his associates say.
I'd guess neither did some of the jurors.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
21. I was surprised seeing the evidence of lack of planning for the
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 08:41 PM
Nov 2022

Assault on the Capitol but it was pretty clear.
It seemed the attack on the Capitol was more a Proud Boys project.
Rhodes was planning other stuff.

sprinkleeninow

(20,250 posts)
8. I tune into MSNBC regularly, but the TV was on this channel and I was busy deleting tons of emails.
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 07:01 PM
Nov 2022

They did have on Michael Fanone who was relieved that Rhodes et al are getting their due.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,393 posts)
9. So Mr. Counsel,
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 07:02 PM
Nov 2022

if there was no evidence, then how the fuck did you lose this case? Are you that incompetent that you couldn't even win a case that had no evidence of a crime?

Note to self, don't ever hire this "lawyer" for anything at all.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
10. Well then they absolutely suck as defense counsel...
Tue Nov 29, 2022, 07:02 PM
Nov 2022

If they couldn't get an acquittal with a lack of evidence, then they are just saying, "don't hire us, we will fuck up your life because we couldn't get our client off even with the presumption of innocence and the burden of proof "beyond a reasonable doubt" in our favor PLUS a "lack of evidence".

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