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highplainsdem

(49,040 posts)
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 09:25 PM Dec 2022

Matt Taibbi and Elon Musk are now going after Ted Lieu

This is the ridiculous tweet from Taibbi that started it, a continuation of the crap in the Twitter Files Musk hired him to post on Twitter.




Instead of chasing child sex predators or terrorists, the FBI has agents — lots of them — analyzing and mass-flagging social media posts. Not as part of any criminal investigation, but as a permanent, end-in-itself surveillance operation. People should not be okay with this.



Lieu's response:




Dear @mtaibbi: I’m on the House Judiciary Committee that has oversight over the
@FBI and you are lying. The FBI has lots of agents chasing child sex predators and terrorists. Please stop undermining and lying about federal law enforcement.




Taibbi replied, and then Musk jumped in with a reply addressing Lieu, though his reply went only to Taibbi and the RW media outlet RSBN:




Taibbi to Lieu:

Being on that committee you should know:
- How much has been spent, and how many DHS/DOJ employees have been assigned, to monitoring and flagging social media?
- Why is the FBI asking for "location information" about ordinary Americans and media outlets like
@RSBNetwork?


Musk to Lieu:

Replying to @mtaibbi and @RSBNetwork

Congressman Lieu, were you aware of this program and did you approve it? Simple questions require simple answers.



While this is just on Twitter now, and probably the RW media outlets cheering Musk on, this will be affecting what the GOP majority does in the House, starting next month
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Cha

(297,678 posts)
1. FO to muskrat & Taibbi ..
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 09:31 PM
Dec 2022

Last edited Sat Dec 17, 2022, 10:01 PM - Edit history (1)

I’ve had his number from the get go when many on here were cheering him on.

Cha

(297,678 posts)
14. Wow.. Not a good idea to
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 10:11 PM
Dec 2022

ignore what the global Gaslit Lying Nazi pusher is doing, imo.

Sorry about repeating myself in the previous post.. I was on the bus bouncing around on my phone.

Glad Ted Lieu called out Taibbi for Lying.

H2O Man

(73,616 posts)
7. There was a time
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 09:45 PM
Dec 2022

when he wrote some meaningful things. But his status was reduced to appearing on some of the bitter internet sites by his own foolishness. This OP documents how bitter he has become.

underpants

(182,882 posts)
8. "She had what looked like a greasy bag of cheeseburgers"
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 09:50 PM
Dec 2022

“I’m pretty sure it was a bag of greasy cheeseburgers”

Paraphrased a bit but mostly correct. The Great Derangement.

H2O Man

(73,616 posts)
10. It is sad that
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 09:55 PM
Dec 2022

he does not grasp that monitoring certain regions of the internet not only is important per militias and potential mass shooters -- including school shooters -- but it is the #1 way to identify a number of the sec offenders he speaks of. It's like .... how could he not get that? Unless he hasn't noticed a problem, say, with school shootings.

ExtremelyWokeMatt

(161 posts)
4. I think what he is actually expressing outrage about is...
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 09:33 PM
Dec 2022

That the FBI is tracking the social media posts of known abusers, which is obviously going to ruffle abusers’ feathers, hence the reframe about ‘mass surveillance’ (IE the Federal Bureau of *Investigation* doing what they’re literally meant to do in this context). Not saying any organization should go without oversight or doesn’t occasionally made mistakes, but this does not sound like one of them when it’s related to a guy who associated willingly and knowingly with the people they did and are turning a social media outlet into a far-right propaganda machine with Nazi and other horrific material that shouldn’t be allowed on the general internet. I feel for the people who have to look at it all and make decisions.

MagickMuffin

(15,952 posts)
6. Hey Dipshits squared, Are you troubled by Ken Paxton demands . . .
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 09:40 PM
Dec 2022


Asking for transgender data?


Some people are saying that Elon Musk and Matt Taibbi are the pedophiles and are worried the FBI will see what they are up to.


Emrys

(7,262 posts)
9. I'm willing to lay a modest wager that at least one of the replies to Musk
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 09:52 PM
Dec 2022

will include this 2014 pic of him and convicted child trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell:



If he sees it, Musk may deflect and come out with his usual excuse that Maxwell "photobombed" him.

That would be all very well, but ...

Ghislaine Maxwell reportedly asked Elon Musk to destroy the internet in the famous photo of the two that the billionaire claims was a photobomb
...
The photo was taken in 2014 at the Vanity Fair Oscar Party in California, but it didn't make a splash on social media until 2020, when Musk took to Twitter to say he didn't know Maxwell "at all."

"She photo-bombed me once at a Vanity Fair party several years ago," he tweeted in July 2020. "Real question is why VF invited her in the first place."

But, the story seems slightly more complicated, according to a recent report from The New York Times. When the photograph was taken, Maxwell asked Musk if there was a way to delete information about oneself off the internet, the Times reported on Tuesday. Maxwell also told the Tesla CEO she wanted him to destroy the internet, a Vanity Fair worker who was standing next to the pair told The Times.
...
In 2020, Insider reported that Epstein introduced Musk's younger brother, Kimbal Musk, to a woman in his entourage in order to get close to the Tesla CEO. Kimbal and the woman dated from 2011 to 2012, and Epstein had received a tour of Elon's company SpaceX in 2012, sources told Insider. At the time, SpaceX denied Epstein received a tour and Musk also said on Twitter that Epstein never toured SpaceX "to the best of our knowledge." 

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-photo-with-ghislaine-maxwell-conversation-destroy-internet-report-2022-10


Something something about glass houses and stones

moniss

(4,274 posts)
11. I've come to
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 09:57 PM
Dec 2022

think of Taibbi with as much regard as I have for Glenn Greenwald. Which is zero. Maneuvering scum willing to do anything and say anything as long as it does something to elevate themselves.

PSPS

(13,614 posts)
13. Why is anyone even interacting with these people?
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 10:05 PM
Dec 2022

It makes as much sense as trying to have a "reasonable discussion" with that guy on the sidewalk outside a department store's holiday display window ranting about the evils of "graven images." It's a complete waste of time.

highplainsdem

(49,040 posts)
16. Why? Musk owns one of the largest social media platforms in the world, he has 120 million
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 10:29 PM
Dec 2022

followers, and he's using that platform to attack Democrats and try to undermine trust in the government. We ignore him at our own peril.

PSPS

(13,614 posts)
17. So?
Sat Dec 17, 2022, 10:44 PM
Dec 2022

You don't "win" any "arguments" on twitter any more than you would with the display window lunatic. Musk's alleged "120 million followers" aren't on twitter to learn anything. They're there to troll each other in culture wars or they're just fan boyz. Twitter is just another tentacle in the "outrage industry" that now feeds off its own controversy and, apparently, many people are addicted to it -- "outrage porn." People should find a better use of their time than let the outrage industry suck it away.

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