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First order of business - suspend the Filibuster (Original Post) jpak Nov 2012 OP
Day one DUgosh Nov 2012 #1
^^ This. Even if the Republicans make cooperative noises, don't trust them. n/t gkhouston Nov 2012 #2
Number 2: make it so we can easily vote. Everywhere. Register. Vote. Be counted. nt morningglory Nov 2012 #3
Things must be done to protect voter access to federal elections. HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #6
A Freakin Men! LeftofObama Nov 2012 #4
Yup! jpak Nov 2012 #5
100% agree! nt Bonobo Nov 2012 #7
ABSOLUTELY, FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS. leveymg Nov 2012 #8
Too bad we did not get the House... SnoopDog Nov 2012 #9
We go to the people to put pressure on them rock Nov 2012 #10
I really think that is the only option left... SnoopDog Nov 2012 #16
Even more reason to suspend the Filibuster jpak Nov 2012 #11
You still have to have the House vote Yes for a bill... SnoopDog Nov 2012 #17
I'm not a parliamentarian, but I believe changes to rules in the Senate coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #12
They can do this before the next session - right? jpak Nov 2012 #13
There are not enough votes in the Senate to pass a rule change like coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #14
Reid can do it if he wants to - and he wants to now... jpak Nov 2012 #15
See post #19 downthread - n/t coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #20
It takes only a simple majority to change Senate rules... SnoopDog Nov 2012 #18
Actually, I guess it depends upon whom you consult. ThinkProgress says it takes coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #19
The Constitution states... SnoopDog Nov 2012 #21
That's how I've always heard it rock Nov 2012 #23
more likely: TheSenate can lower the # of votes needed to overcome the fillifucker librechik Nov 2012 #22

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
6. Things must be done to protect voter access to federal elections.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:21 AM
Nov 2012

Maybe a federal holiday for elections--maybe replace President's day, or move up Veteran's day in election years.

As a vet I wouldn't object to moving veteran's day...if we served for any principle it was to preserve elections.

LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
4. A Freakin Men!
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:17 AM
Nov 2012

If I'm not mistaken, Senator-elect King of Maine (I) said that was one of his conditions to caucus with the Democrats.

SnoopDog

(2,422 posts)
9. Too bad we did not get the House...
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:51 AM
Nov 2012

How are we going to get the Tea Baggers in the House to vote for anything but 'repealing Obamacare' that they did what 32 times in the last 2 years...

jpak

(41,759 posts)
11. Even more reason to suspend the Filibuster
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:03 AM
Nov 2012

If the Senate passes a bill and the House does not - there could be reconciliation that would get things done in Congress.

If Mitch The Turtle filibusters everything - nothing will get done.

Yup

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
12. I'm not a parliamentarian, but I believe changes to rules in the Senate
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:05 AM
Nov 2012

require 60 votes. Thus, suspending the filibuster would require 60 votes. Or are you proposing that Reid and the Dems just declare existing Senate rules null and void?

jpak

(41,759 posts)
13. They can do this before the next session - right?
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:07 AM
Nov 2012


Reid considered this in 2009 - but didn't do it.

Big mistake.

The GOP are proven obstructionists that will use every club they have.

Take it away from them.

Yup
 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
14. There are not enough votes in the Senate to pass a rule change like
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:18 AM
Nov 2012

suspending the Filibuster. I see the Senate as a profoundly anti-democratic institution anyway, so I hold no warrant for its rule-making procedures. But the rules say 60 votes required to change Senate rules.

SnoopDog

(2,422 posts)
21. The Constitution states...
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:15 AM
Nov 2012

"Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member."

Since simple majority is the norm and since there is no reference to 2/3's vote (which is to be used for only very critical votes) for 'determining rules', I would say majority rules in this case...

rock

(13,218 posts)
23. That's how I've always heard it
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:52 PM
Nov 2012

Simple majority. (After all these are not laws just rules for the senate).

librechik

(30,676 posts)
22. more likely: TheSenate can lower the # of votes needed to overcome the fillifucker
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:21 AM
Nov 2012

It's only been at 60 for 20 years or so (total guess) back when LBJ was around the number was 54 or thereabouts. It has been changed more than once.

That would curb the power of the minority to kill legislation without totally eliminating the fillibuster

we have more Dems now let's do it!

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