What is it about these so called patriots, that when they are

[cachukis]

called to defend the methods they used to "save the country," don't recall?
They seem to put up a strong voice to keep us from leading them to ruin, but fold in front of the opportunity to justify their actions.
You would think they would be proud of their revolution regardless of the means.
I have not heard any questioning along those lines.

[AllaN01Bear]

1. i have heard this nonsense all my adult llife. wernt and arnt.

[ret5hd]

2. With this starting at about 17:45 ...their beliefs are so self-contradictory...

they CAN'T explain it to themselves, much less anyone else!

Their belief in "conventionalism" and submission to authority is directly contradicted by power and destructiveness...and they can't even see it.

The section that was most enlightening to me was #4 Anti-intraception (an objection to the subjective, the imaginative, the tender minded)

1. Conventionalism 17:49
2. Authoritarian Submission 18:09
3. Authoritarian Aggression 18:44
4. Anti-intraception 19:12
5. Stereotypy 19:39
6. Power and Toughness 20:14
7. Destructiveness and Cynicism 21:07
8. Projectivity 21:32
9. 'Sex' 22:14

[cachukis]

4. Pretty fabulous. Have read on the subject and hearing confirmation

of the personality perspective was still troubling.
People pick up these traits at an early age. Without the parental frown across the society, we have to figure out how to replace the habits of excuse making.
Daunting.

[doc03]

3. I was stopped for speeding one day last month. When the cop walked up to the car and said do

realize you were going 70 in a 35 zone, I should have said I don't recall or the 5th. I wouldn't have got a ticket.

[usonian]

5. They are a cult. In a cult, any reason is OK, including contradiction.

Words are just used for effect, dividing the cult members from "those others", and they frequently backtrack and contradict.

NOTHING MATTERS but the survival of the cult and its fearless (fearful) leader.

I keep posting on this matter. Here's the latest (with a poem!)

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17502657

Example: "Christian Nazionalism"