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looks like wall street is punishing america for choosing Obama. dow... -302 (Original Post) spanone Nov 2012 OP
those f****ers cilla4progress Nov 2012 #1
no correlation, I'm sure Coyotl Nov 2012 #2
289 points. What is that 2%? Kolesar Nov 2012 #5
Forget wall street. They are just a manipulated casino, who will NOT be able to get your Social still_one Nov 2012 #3
They might also have some vague fear of a tightening of regulation. Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #7
We still have too big to fail still_one Nov 2012 #29
Taking capital gains before the tax code is changed? JDPriestly Nov 2012 #39
I don't even care liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #4
that's not true OKNancy Nov 2012 #16
the majority of Americans are not investing right now liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #25
.... and Elizabeth Warren. marmar Nov 2012 #6
That's it! Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #15
OK, I was wrong twice in the same thread. Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #44
Is The Market Reacting To An Obama Win Or The Statements By McConnell & Boehner That They Will.... global1 Nov 2012 #8
good question spanone Nov 2012 #10
It has nothing to do with the election. jschurchin Nov 2012 #9
This... ^^^^^^ n/t MANative Nov 2012 #24
has little to do with the election... It's Europe OKNancy Nov 2012 #11
It'll probably be double what it is today by the end of Obama's term. OhZone Nov 2012 #12
It's not about Obama, it's about Europe. DanTex Nov 2012 #13
Who the fuck cares? Zoeisright Nov 2012 #14
the rich are pissed. notadmblnd Nov 2012 #17
-302 is`t that bad considering europe is ill and china is undergoing change madrchsod Nov 2012 #18
yeah I heard a couple of days ago that there was bad news liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #32
These are sour grapes Republicans shooting themselves in the foot Warpy Nov 2012 #19
IS IT WALLSTREET OR ... Light63 Nov 2012 #20
Neither, it's about the situation in Europe, as has been stated a couple of ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2012 #22
Glad they waited till today instead of before election wishlist Nov 2012 #21
let em drop it. PowerToThePeople Nov 2012 #23
And Chris Matthews isn't helping - say it ain't so, Chris! Zax2me Nov 2012 #26
The big money knew... Z_California Nov 2012 #27
Wall Street Dandies throwing tantrums... farmbo Nov 2012 #28
it is b/c of this president's policies that wall street is up to where it is leftyohiolib Nov 2012 #30
Hey Koch Brothers! How's your day going so far? Bragi Nov 2012 #31
I hope it gets worse. It would be a good opportunity ... dawg Nov 2012 #33
Yup...."Buy when there's blood on the streets. Sell when they're dancing in the streets." RagAss Nov 2012 #38
For those who still play the market, today is a wonderful opportunity to coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #34
Sell off...... JPK Nov 2012 #35
CALM DOWN!! This has more to do with Europe's debt problems. MichDem10 Nov 2012 #36
Should have been some prosecuting 4 yrs ago! B Calm Nov 2012 #37
Bank Stocks n/t Ellipsis Nov 2012 #40
Relax, it's just some stocks going on sale :P slutticus Nov 2012 #41
Prosecutions for what? onenote Nov 2012 #42
It's all about Europe today ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2012 #43
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
2. no correlation, I'm sure
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:59 AM
Nov 2012

The market does that all the time. It takes a much larger movement to be significant.

still_one

(92,394 posts)
3. Forget wall street. They are just a manipulated casino, who will NOT be able to get your Social
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:59 AM
Nov 2012

Security, which I suspect is the main reason they are down


Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
7. They might also have some vague fear of a tightening of regulation.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:01 PM
Nov 2012

Probably an unfounded fear, actually, what with a Republican House.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
4. I don't even care
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:00 PM
Nov 2012

After 2008 average Americans stopped being able to invest in the stock market anyway. Some don't even want to if they can afford it. You can't trust it anymore. It's rigged for the wealthy. I have a little money in it but not enough to care if it goes down a little today. With Obama in office for another 4 years maybe we will begin to get back to a point where average Americans can invest in the stock market again if they chose to.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
16. that's not true
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:05 PM
Nov 2012

I'm a little person. Sold a house, invested in low cost mutual funds.. earning 8 to 15 % ytd. A lot better than a savings account.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
25. the majority of Americans are not investing right now
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:10 PM
Nov 2012

Have you read the statistics on how little Americans are saving for retirement right now? Most will not be ready. I'm in my late thirties. I don't have near what I'm suppose to have and have stopped making contributions. I hope I can start again in the future but right now I'm too busy paying rent, insurance bills, doctor bills, and buying food and gas.

global1

(25,270 posts)
8. Is The Market Reacting To An Obama Win Or The Statements By McConnell & Boehner That They Will....
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:01 PM
Nov 2012

keep stonewalling and keep us in gridlock?

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
11. has little to do with the election... It's Europe
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:02 PM
Nov 2012

there are negative growth reports.. US banks stocks are taking a hit, but it will last a week, and even out.

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
12. It'll probably be double what it is today by the end of Obama's term.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:02 PM
Nov 2012

If Romney had won, it would probable have crashed by the end of his term.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
32. yeah I heard a couple of days ago that there was bad news
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:18 PM
Nov 2012

regarding Europe. The market just wasn't reacting to it. It was probably waiting to see if Romney won. Wall Street and big business was hoping for a Romney presidency, but I do suspect at least some of this if not a lot of it is due to Europe.

Warpy

(111,339 posts)
19. These are sour grapes Republicans shooting themselves in the foot
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:06 PM
Nov 2012

because they believed all the bullshit and think Wall Street is doomed. That's part of it. The other part is that the dollar is up today, so foreign investors are taking profits. Dollar up, market down; dollar down, market up; that's been the pattern for some years now.

Some of that money is going into commodities. There was a large infusion into oil today.

Light63

(233 posts)
20. IS IT WALLSTREET OR ...
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:06 PM
Nov 2012

THE BILLIONAIRES ARE SELLING OFF THEIR STOCKS TO MAKE OBAMA'S RE-ELECTION LOOK BAD?

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
22. Neither, it's about the situation in Europe, as has been stated a couple of
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:09 PM
Nov 2012

times already in this thread. You must not have read the thread.

wishlist

(2,795 posts)
21. Glad they waited till today instead of before election
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:07 PM
Nov 2012

I was on pins and needles the past few weeks fearing that market players would cause a big selloff, possibly hurting Obama's chances. I have heard over 90% of the time incumbent's have been reelected when the market is higher on election day than it was on Labor Day and the market was up yesterday over Labor Day.

Some stocks will do better under Obama so things should settle out after a readjustment period.

At least oil and gas came down again today which helps the average American's budget. I need to buy a tank of heating oil so it helps me, but I do sympathize with those who have market investments.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
23. let em drop it.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:09 PM
Nov 2012

When (hopefully) the middle and lower classes get a boost, we can purchase the country back on the cheap.

Z_California

(650 posts)
27. The big money knew...
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:12 PM
Nov 2012

...Obama was winning. Those guys understand math. It's the Fox informed investor class who are creating buying opportunities today. Thanks guys.

farmbo

(3,122 posts)
28. Wall Street Dandies throwing tantrums...
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:13 PM
Nov 2012

...with other peoples' money. LOL!
These guys are creepy.

Now watch as the serious buyers come in this afternoon to sweep up the bargains.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
30. it is b/c of this president's policies that wall street is up to where it is
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:17 PM
Nov 2012

-302 is nothing compared to where it was when little-bushie was shoo'd away

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
31. Hey Koch Brothers! How's your day going so far?
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:17 PM
Nov 2012

This morning's market movement suggests some particularly dumb Wall Streeters as of yesterday had factored a Romney win into prices, and now that Obama has won, they are selling off at reduced prices.

If so, they are dumb fucks. I think it's likely that what we're seeing right now are angry, stupid small-investor ideologues selling off stuff because they're in a huff. This makes whatever they're selling attractive to smarter buyers.

I would expect therefore that the market will recover these losses later today, or soon thereafter.

I love the smell of right-wing fear in the morning.

- B

dawg

(10,624 posts)
33. I hope it gets worse. It would be a good opportunity ...
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:19 PM
Nov 2012

for smart investors like Warren Buffett, George Soros, and ...um ... dawg, to swoop in and purchase shares of good companies at a discount. I like to buy things on sale.

RagAss

(13,832 posts)
38. Yup...."Buy when there's blood on the streets. Sell when they're dancing in the streets."
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:33 PM
Nov 2012

someone said that once.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
34. For those who still play the market, today is a wonderful opportunity to
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:21 PM
Nov 2012

buy high-quality stocks and low-cost mutual funds at a 1-2% discount. Apple has fallen about 15% off its all-time high of $700/share, for example, but is down another 3% today for no material reason that I can see other than that Capital has gone on strike. But does anyone here doubt any longer that Apple as a brand and cash generator has staying power and solid growth prospects?

The DOW doubled, yes DOUBLED, from 2009-2012. So Capital's little fit of pique today needs to be placed in a larger, longer-term context.

Unless you think that we are heading into another recession (most economists do not), there's good reason to diversify into stocks. And today there's a one-day sale. When the capitalists are selling is when we liberals should be buying (and, to a lesser but still significant extent, vice versa).

JPK

(653 posts)
35. Sell off......
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:31 PM
Nov 2012

They're just taking their profits and today's news is a good excuse to do it. Be back up in a couple of days.

onenote

(42,759 posts)
42. Prosecutions for what?
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:04 PM
Nov 2012

Large swings by the markets (including swings that in percentage terms are greater than what's happening today) aren't uncommon. And who exactly are you going to prosecute?

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
43. It's all about Europe today
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 01:06 PM
Nov 2012

Otherwise this would have been a good day....Wall Street likes stability and a clear winner regardless of party.

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