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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumslooks like wall street is punishing america for choosing Obama. dow... -302
time for some prosecutions
cilla4progress
(24,766 posts)it'll come back ...
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)The market does that all the time. It takes a much larger movement to be significant.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)Maybe earnings or European headlines are the story
still_one
(92,394 posts)Security, which I suspect is the main reason they are down
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Probably an unfounded fear, actually, what with a Republican House.
still_one
(92,394 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)After 2008 average Americans stopped being able to invest in the stock market anyway. Some don't even want to if they can afford it. You can't trust it anymore. It's rigged for the wealthy. I have a little money in it but not enough to care if it goes down a little today. With Obama in office for another 4 years maybe we will begin to get back to a point where average Americans can invest in the stock market again if they chose to.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)I'm a little person. Sold a house, invested in low cost mutual funds.. earning 8 to 15 % ytd. A lot better than a savings account.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Have you read the statistics on how little Americans are saving for retirement right now? Most will not be ready. I'm in my late thirties. I don't have near what I'm suppose to have and have stopped making contributions. I hope I can start again in the future but right now I'm too busy paying rent, insurance bills, doctor bills, and buying food and gas.
marmar
(77,090 posts)nt
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I'm sure you're right, now that you point it out.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)It's Europe.
global1
(25,270 posts)keep stonewalling and keep us in gridlock?
spanone
(135,873 posts)jschurchin
(1,456 posts)You need to look no farther than the comments made this morning by Mario Draghi about the financial situation in Europe.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-07/mario-draghi-sends-risk-reeling-after-exposing-bitter-european-truth
MANative
(4,112 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)there are negative growth reports.. US banks stocks are taking a hit, but it will last a week, and even out.
OhZone
(3,212 posts)If Romney had won, it would probable have crashed by the end of his term.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)they couldn't buy themselves a president
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)regarding Europe. The market just wasn't reacting to it. It was probably waiting to see if Romney won. Wall Street and big business was hoping for a Romney presidency, but I do suspect at least some of this if not a lot of it is due to Europe.
Warpy
(111,339 posts)because they believed all the bullshit and think Wall Street is doomed. That's part of it. The other part is that the dollar is up today, so foreign investors are taking profits. Dollar up, market down; dollar down, market up; that's been the pattern for some years now.
Some of that money is going into commodities. There was a large infusion into oil today.
Light63
(233 posts)THE BILLIONAIRES ARE SELLING OFF THEIR STOCKS TO MAKE OBAMA'S RE-ELECTION LOOK BAD?
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)times already in this thread. You must not have read the thread.
wishlist
(2,795 posts)I was on pins and needles the past few weeks fearing that market players would cause a big selloff, possibly hurting Obama's chances. I have heard over 90% of the time incumbent's have been reelected when the market is higher on election day than it was on Labor Day and the market was up yesterday over Labor Day.
Some stocks will do better under Obama so things should settle out after a readjustment period.
At least oil and gas came down again today which helps the average American's budget. I need to buy a tank of heating oil so it helps me, but I do sympathize with those who have market investments.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)When (hopefully) the middle and lower classes get a boost, we can purchase the country back on the cheap.
Zax2me
(2,515 posts)I'm so glad we had that storm last week -
http://now.msn.com/chris-matthews-msnbc-news-host-says-storm-sandy-good-for-politics
Z_California
(650 posts)...Obama was winning. Those guys understand math. It's the Fox informed investor class who are creating buying opportunities today. Thanks guys.
farmbo
(3,122 posts)...with other peoples' money. LOL!
These guys are creepy.
Now watch as the serious buyers come in this afternoon to sweep up the bargains.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)-302 is nothing compared to where it was when little-bushie was shoo'd away
Bragi
(7,650 posts)This morning's market movement suggests some particularly dumb Wall Streeters as of yesterday had factored a Romney win into prices, and now that Obama has won, they are selling off at reduced prices.
If so, they are dumb fucks. I think it's likely that what we're seeing right now are angry, stupid small-investor ideologues selling off stuff because they're in a huff. This makes whatever they're selling attractive to smarter buyers.
I would expect therefore that the market will recover these losses later today, or soon thereafter.
I love the smell of right-wing fear in the morning.
- B
dawg
(10,624 posts)for smart investors like Warren Buffett, George Soros, and ...um ... dawg, to swoop in and purchase shares of good companies at a discount. I like to buy things on sale.
RagAss
(13,832 posts)someone said that once.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)buy high-quality stocks and low-cost mutual funds at a 1-2% discount. Apple has fallen about 15% off its all-time high of $700/share, for example, but is down another 3% today for no material reason that I can see other than that Capital has gone on strike. But does anyone here doubt any longer that Apple as a brand and cash generator has staying power and solid growth prospects?
The DOW doubled, yes DOUBLED, from 2009-2012. So Capital's little fit of pique today needs to be placed in a larger, longer-term context.
Unless you think that we are heading into another recession (most economists do not), there's good reason to diversify into stocks. And today there's a one-day sale. When the capitalists are selling is when we liberals should be buying (and, to a lesser but still significant extent, vice versa).
JPK
(653 posts)They're just taking their profits and today's news is a good excuse to do it. Be back up in a couple of days.
MichDem10
(713 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)slutticus
(3,428 posts)onenote
(42,759 posts)Large swings by the markets (including swings that in percentage terms are greater than what's happening today) aren't uncommon. And who exactly are you going to prosecute?
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Otherwise this would have been a good day....Wall Street likes stability and a clear winner regardless of party.