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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHaving a screw loose doesn't excuse the treason.
And WHY are there so many in the House, Kev?
They should be locked up, if not standing in the unemployment line (Thanks, Santos!).
Doesnt let Turtle and his turd band in the Senate off the hook, neither.
All the traitors need to be held to account. Otherwise, theyll try, try, try again.
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Having a screw loose doesn't excuse the treason. (Original Post)
Kid Berwyn
Jan 2023
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republianmushroom
(13,563 posts)1. agree
Kid Berwyn
(14,862 posts)5. Snakes in the grass need to be stamped out.
The Threat to Democracy Is Still in Congress
One hundred forty-seven Republicans voted to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. Almost all of them are still in office.
By David A. Graham
The Atlantic, Dec. 13, 2022
Excerpt
On January 6, 2021, 147 Republicans, including eight senators, voted against certifying Joe Bidens victory. All eight senators remain in office. Of the 139 representatives who objected, 124 ran for reelection, and 118 of those won. Each of their votes is inexcusable, but not all objectors are equally egregious; some were more actively involved in the paperwork coup than others. A series of stories at Talking Points Memo, based on former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadowss text messages, spotlights how many of the worst plotters are still in office. The threat to democracy is coming from inside the Houseand Senate.
The text messages include exchanges with 34 members of Congress about the election. Of those, some are relatively minor (talk of raising funds for legal challenges), and some of the participants ended up voting to certify the election. Another six will not be in the next Congress, most because they tried for other offices and lost primaries, including Representatives Billy Long, Louie Gohmert, Mo Brooks, and Jody Hice, who unsuccessfully challenged Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, whod stood up to Trumps attempts to subvert the vote count in the Peach State.
Yet that leaves a formidable dishonor roll. Theres Representative Ralph Norman of South Carolina, who as late as January 17 wanted Trump to effect a military coup. Our LAST HOPE is invoking Marshall Law!! PLEASE URGE TO PRESIDENT TO DO SO!! he wrote Meadows, demonstrating a lack of understanding of both the Constitution and proper spelling. Norman is one of the Republicans currently trying to find a way to torpedo Kevin McCarthys speaker bid because he finds the Californian insufficiently conservative.
Another member of the anti-McCarthy faction who shows up in the texts is Representative Andy Biggs of Arizona. The messages record how Biggs sought ways to get the state legislature to refuse to certify Bidens election in Arizona.
Elsewhere, theres Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio, who was a ringleader of the attempt to steal the election in Congress, remains unapologetic, and is set to take on still more power and prominence when Republicans take over the House in January.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/12/threat-democracy-still-congress/672447/
Thanks for grokking, republianmushroom. Were these traitors held to account in January 2021, there wouldnt be a GOP majority in the House today.
One hundred forty-seven Republicans voted to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. Almost all of them are still in office.
By David A. Graham
The Atlantic, Dec. 13, 2022
Excerpt
On January 6, 2021, 147 Republicans, including eight senators, voted against certifying Joe Bidens victory. All eight senators remain in office. Of the 139 representatives who objected, 124 ran for reelection, and 118 of those won. Each of their votes is inexcusable, but not all objectors are equally egregious; some were more actively involved in the paperwork coup than others. A series of stories at Talking Points Memo, based on former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadowss text messages, spotlights how many of the worst plotters are still in office. The threat to democracy is coming from inside the Houseand Senate.
The text messages include exchanges with 34 members of Congress about the election. Of those, some are relatively minor (talk of raising funds for legal challenges), and some of the participants ended up voting to certify the election. Another six will not be in the next Congress, most because they tried for other offices and lost primaries, including Representatives Billy Long, Louie Gohmert, Mo Brooks, and Jody Hice, who unsuccessfully challenged Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, whod stood up to Trumps attempts to subvert the vote count in the Peach State.
Yet that leaves a formidable dishonor roll. Theres Representative Ralph Norman of South Carolina, who as late as January 17 wanted Trump to effect a military coup. Our LAST HOPE is invoking Marshall Law!! PLEASE URGE TO PRESIDENT TO DO SO!! he wrote Meadows, demonstrating a lack of understanding of both the Constitution and proper spelling. Norman is one of the Republicans currently trying to find a way to torpedo Kevin McCarthys speaker bid because he finds the Californian insufficiently conservative.
Another member of the anti-McCarthy faction who shows up in the texts is Representative Andy Biggs of Arizona. The messages record how Biggs sought ways to get the state legislature to refuse to certify Bidens election in Arizona.
Elsewhere, theres Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio, who was a ringleader of the attempt to steal the election in Congress, remains unapologetic, and is set to take on still more power and prominence when Republicans take over the House in January.
Continues
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/12/threat-democracy-still-congress/672447/
Thanks for grokking, republianmushroom. Were these traitors held to account in January 2021, there wouldnt be a GOP majority in the House today.
MyOwnPeace
(16,925 posts)2. There are SO many absurdities taking place......
that it is SO easy to lose track of each - one keeps jumping out in front of the next.
YOU have asked THE appropriate questions - why, why, why......... and DO NOT lose focus on any of them - they ALL need to be swept up and put in jail!
Kid Berwyn
(14,862 posts)6. The traitors of January 6 should not be in Congress.
Thank you for grokking, MyOwnPeace. Something is seriously wrong when the traitors who tried to overturn an election and the Constitution are still in positions of power.
LudwigPastorius
(9,127 posts)3. This country needs an enema.
...and Trump's mouth would be where to put the hose.
Kid Berwyn
(14,862 posts)7. Der Scheissnozzel
AP FACT CHECK: Trump falsely declares kids safe from virus
By CALVIN WOODWARD
May 7, 2020
WASHINGTON (AP) President Donald Trump is falsely suggesting that children are safe from the coronavirus as he pushes to reopen the country now and schools in the summer or fall.
Although Trump is broadly correct that the disease is most deadly to the elderly and to people with existing health problems, his statement that the children arent affected is heedless. Some have died from it. His recent comments also skirt the threat to healthy adults in their 50s and younger.
A look at his statements on the subject:
TRUMP: With young children and children, wed like to see the schools open early next season and on time. Its incredible how the its very unique how the children arent affected, but people that have problems and older people are can be very badly hurt, injured, or die from this problem. remarks with Native leaders Tuesday in Phoenix, Arizona.
TRUMP: You see how well children seem to do. Its incredible. We realize how strong children are, right? remarks with nurses Wednesday.
TRUMP: It affects older people. It infects if you have any problem heart, diabetes, even a little weak heart, a little diabetes, a little this thing is vicious, and it can take you out, and it can take you out very strongly. But children do very well. remarks Sunday to Fox News.
THE FACTS: His suggestion that children are in the clear is false. To say they do very well with the disease is generally more accurate, based on what is known so far. His implication that the risk is limited to the old and sick is incorrect.
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https://apnews.com/d1a286910e0529ee2269f5dae69f2306
Kid Berwyn
(14,862 posts)8. Who Asks for a Pardon?
If Republicans did nothing wrong, why did they ask for pardons?
And why has ex-prez Dip floated the idea, if re-elected, hed pardon the J6 mob in the Capitol?
Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it Treason.
John Harington (1561-1612)