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Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 01:48 PM Jan 2023

HERE IS A REASON WHY SO MUCH .."CORRUPTION" IN U.S.A.'S FEDERAL GOVERNMENT."...................

...........................DONALD TRUMP!!!!.....................................................

...........................AGAIN..........DONALD TRUMP....................................

What consequences has he paid .........[b FOR ]ALL OF IT?.....................................

SO, many were absolutely sure they could get away with it. Just like their hero: Mr. Donald Trump.

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HERE IS A REASON WHY SO MUCH .."CORRUPTION" IN U.S.A.'S FEDERAL GOVERNMENT."................... (Original Post) Stuart G Jan 2023 OP
Yeah ... cilla4progress Jan 2023 #1
It started well before him, but he poured jet fuel on it for sure. This was his real "warp speed" KPN Jan 2023 #2
YEP...TRUMP POURED JET FUEL ON A FIRE. THAT WAS SOMEWHAT SMALL..THEN..................... Stuart G Jan 2023 #3
Crooks United to elect their spiritual doppelganger with pardon power bucolic_frolic Jan 2023 #4
Can you imagine Trump defending himself at his court trial? Quite a comedy show..!!! Stuart G Jan 2023 #5
Corruption exists because people want money and power. Caliman73 Jan 2023 #6
Exactly inthewind21 Jan 2023 #7
The Republicans instill corruption and attack institutions from inside Hortensis Jan 2023 #8
It has bean* there from the start. GreenWave Jan 2023 #9
One big source of corruption : I_UndergroundPanther Jan 2023 #10

KPN

(15,638 posts)
2. It started well before him, but he poured jet fuel on it for sure. This was his real "warp speed"
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 01:52 PM
Jan 2023

accomplishment -- the total and complete corruption of the executive and judicial branches.

bucolic_frolic

(43,064 posts)
4. Crooks United to elect their spiritual doppelganger with pardon power
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 02:00 PM
Jan 2023

Just like the judicial system, if you can just get the top of the pyramid to sign off on it, you can get away with anything at all.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
5. Can you imagine Trump defending himself at his court trial? Quite a comedy show..!!!
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 02:08 PM
Jan 2023

.....I have the right to yell.....................FIRE!!!! IN A VERY CROWDED MOVIE THEATER....

............THAT IS THE EXCUSE HE WILL GIVE.....BUT, HE HASN'T GOT A CLUE......"THAT IS AGAINST THE LAW."

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
6. Corruption exists because people want money and power.
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 02:23 PM
Jan 2023

It is not a new phenomenon brought on by Donald Trump. Any time there are systems where money and power are exchanged, you are going to have corruption. What we see that is different with Trump, is that he is nakedly corrupt. The concern about this particular time in history is that one of the major political parties in this country is so ideologically bankrupt, that they were willing to put someone so nakedly corrupt into office in order to advance their own power.

Also, people in the United States, with money and power rarely suffer significant consequences. What consequences did Nixon suffer from interfering with peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War, that prolonged that struggle 5 more years costing thousands of lives and hundreds of millions of not billions of dollars? He had to resign because of Watergate, a much smaller scandal, but other than resigning, he faced no consequences. What consequences did Reagan suffer for going behind Carter's back to scuttle negotiations for the release of the hostages? He made a deal to sell weapons illegally to Iran so that they would keep Americans held hostage in Iran, longer to hurt Carter's re-election chances, sold weapons of war to a State Sponsor of Terror, then turned around and used money off that enterprise to fund right wing death squads in the Nicaraguan civil war. He is seen as the great Conservative President. What consequences did George Bush Jr. face when he and Cheney lied us into war with Iraq and Afghanistan, where Cheney's former company KBR received billions in profit, as well as energy companies tied to the Administration.

Trump is particularly egregious, because he is sloppy, stupid, and vulgar. He doesn't have any of the charm, intelligence, folksy charisma, or other attributes of former corrupt politicians. He is gross and overly greedy, but that is who the Republicans chose to run against Hillary Clinton, one of the smartest and most qualified people to run for office in the past 50 years. They used rumors about Hillary's "corruption" to hurt her campaign.

You are right. Many people do think they can get away with corruption like Trump has so far, but that is not new and it is WAY WAY bigger than Donald Trump. This is systemic corruption by Conservative forces who are bent at maintaining power and wealth at all costs.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. The Republicans instill corruption and attack institutions from inside
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 03:06 PM
Jan 2023

EVERY TIME they get majority power to do it. The ANTI-GOVERNMENT, ANTI-tax, anti-progressive party has been doing it for decades. tRump enabled them to do an especially outstanding job during his term, by using the big lemon thrust on them to make big lemonade.

tRump should go to prison, of course, but that wouldn't change a thing. Not while those whose corruption threw the door open for him are still being elected to power by massively corrupt RW voters.

(Nor would socialism, btw. Everyone here now would still be here. That includes the all piss-poor types who've always spun corruption as an excuse for not voting, for or against anyone.)

GreenWave

(6,663 posts)
9. It has bean* there from the start.
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 04:30 PM
Jan 2023

* Misspelled or perhaps mister spelled so you will pronounce like Peter Gabriel!

Twas there when FDR was prez and I suspect long before.

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