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KS Toronado

(17,187 posts)
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 01:50 PM Jan 2023

How to make republicans "WOKE"

Stopped in the VFW yesterday afternoon shortly before the national news came on the tube. After all the
hellos I asked the group "Hear about the latest classified documents discovered?" Got a lot of "Biden's" and
"How many this time", then I informed them it was Pence, it lead to a lively discussion about checking
all elected officials and why we need new laws & guidelines regarding them.

Then after the national news went off it dawned on me they never mentioned the FBI agent who was arrested,
so I brought that subject up with a "I can't remember all the details but it appears he was on Putin's payroll",
"look it up" and out came the smart phones.

Awful quiet while they're reading when it dawned on me that in my red town almost everybody only watches
FQX and they tend to not cover stories that paint Rs negatively. So then I brought up McCarthy's FAIR TAX ACT,
another lively discussion and no one approved of it.

There it is, in our daily interactions with Rs if they are holding a smart phone bring a subject up, play ignorant
of all the facts and encourage them to help you out by looking it up. MAKE THEM WOKE.


On a side note, Tim challenged me on something and I flipped on him and asked if he would be a good Judge in a
dispute? "Sure" he said, then I said "Defendant A claims he is fair & balanced and that defendant B lies all the time
and don't trust him" "Are you going to listen to B's side of the story??"

"Been obvious tonight there's things going on you are unaware of and should be. Go and watch The Last Word
With Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC, he's not a far left crazy, more middle of the road, he will not hurt you.

Glad I got out of there alive after badmouthing FQX but it was hard to argue with my questions. Remember
when dealing with them while holding a phone questions work better than statements.

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How to make republicans "WOKE" (Original Post) KS Toronado Jan 2023 OP
+1 2naSalit Jan 2023 #1
Any way to break through the Fascist Oligarch eXtremists cult is good. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2023 #2
When they say all others are lying The Wizard Jan 2023 #9
That's very good because they love "doing their own research" Walleye Jan 2023 #3
Good work, Agent Toronado Bayard Jan 2023 #4
The 'debt ceiling" would be a good one with older people KS Toronado Jan 2023 #5
Forgot to add KS Toronado Jan 2023 #7
They start yelling "Google is full of left-wing lies!" peppertree Jan 2023 #6
Does Russian TV still air Tucker Carlson? The Wizard Jan 2023 #8
Last I heard they still do KS Toronado Jan 2023 #11
Beau of the Fifth Column makes an effort to say the same things Simeon Salus Jan 2023 #10
Great insight. Thanks! . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2023 #12
You are performing a true service to humanity! ShazzieB Jan 2023 #13
Thanks KS Toronado Jan 2023 #16
What you are describing is the Socratic Method. Ligyron Jan 2023 #14
VFW hall are a hotbed of old MAGAs. Drunk old MAGAs. But for sure the drinks are strong and cheap! BradBo Jan 2023 #15
Well done! Great advice! CaptainTruth Jan 2023 #17
I enjoy reading of these VFW visits. yonder Jan 2023 #18

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,309 posts)
2. Any way to break through the Fascist Oligarch eXtremists cult is good.
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 02:08 PM
Jan 2023

FOX continually tells them that they can't trust any other news source. Repetition works; just ask advertisers.

KS Toronado

(17,187 posts)
5. The 'debt ceiling" would be a good one with older people
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 02:32 PM
Jan 2023

"Does congress really want to lower our Social Security"?

KS Toronado

(17,187 posts)
7. Forgot to add
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 02:52 PM
Jan 2023

best not to mention reQublicOns, they could get defensive, asking it this way "Do republicans
really want to lower our Social Security"? might create enemies.

peppertree

(21,615 posts)
6. They start yelling "Google is full of left-wing lies!"
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 02:50 PM
Jan 2023

It's hopeless with them.

Occasionally, a few will realize how much they've used like dogs - but usually only after some tragic fraud besets them or a loved one (a Wall Street shark that makes off with their money; a vulture who wants - and gets - their land (if rural); 'super-duper' insurance that leaves them in the lurch and bankrupt; etc.).

KS Toronado

(17,187 posts)
11. Last I heard they still do
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 03:24 PM
Jan 2023

I read that Rupert Murdoch has/had ties to Putler probably because they have the same goal......
destroy America from within.

Simeon Salus

(1,142 posts)
10. Beau of the Fifth Column makes an effort to say the same things
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 03:06 PM
Jan 2023

We can't ignore these folks and we can't fight these folks. They are our neighbors, coworkers and classmates.

I went to high school and college in a red state. Moved north to find my crowd.

Ask them about these things. Where did you read that? How did you learn that? Did you see this?

Condescension only goes so far. I'm as guilty as anyone.

ShazzieB

(16,352 posts)
13. You are performing a true service to humanity!
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 03:47 PM
Jan 2023

If even one of those people starts to question what they hear on FoxNews just a little bit, your efforts will not have been in vain!

KS Toronado

(17,187 posts)
16. Thanks
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 04:13 PM
Jan 2023

Last thing I brought up was the Judge/FQX question, half of them looked or nodded at me like they
would try out Lawrence O'Donnell. We need to get Rs to quit voting R, we all know Rs who are not
brain-dead MAGAts, those are who all of us need to approach.

Ligyron

(7,624 posts)
14. What you are describing is the Socratic Method.
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 03:49 PM
Jan 2023

Lots of stuff on the web and videos of this being practiced.

yonder

(9,662 posts)
18. I enjoy reading of these VFW visits.
Wed Jan 25, 2023, 04:45 PM
Jan 2023

Please keep them coming as your tolerance/sanity/self-preservation/liver allows.

You reminded me also to get back on track about asking non-threatening questions rather than making declarations. I often stay silent because I seem to prime the pump....then off we go.

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