Where do cops learn that they can beat someone and..."Get Away With It."?

[Stuart G]

The cops learn this somehow. But, where and when? The police don't do this just to beat someone up,
but they do this because they know that they can ....."Get away with it." ...."With NO CONSEQUENCES."

...If the cops were sure that they would spend years in jail for doing this, then they wouldn't do it....But the
cops that beat this person, were sure that they would get away with it. .......NO CONSEQUENCES.

I am asking where did the cops learn to do this? I don't know, so I am asking the question.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

1. The system itself is designed to oppress, hurt and punish, no matter who is hired or promoted.

Policing is based on white supremacy and control. The violence is inherent to the system. It has never been about "public safety" or "protecting and serving."

[Tickle]

19. I agree cops violence is inherent but

Memphis TN

5 former Memphis officers indicted on murder and kidnapping charges in Tyre Nichols’ death as nation braces for release of police video

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/26/us/tyre-nichols-memphis-thursday/index.html

[WhiskeyGrinder]

20. But what?

[Tickle]

21. here's the video

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2023/01/25/tyre-nichols-death-shimon-prokupecz-live-cnntm-vpx.cnn?dicbo=v2-f5707330b9af75324be39c5ac2d44800&hpt=ob_blogfooterold


'Extensive bleeding caused by a severe beating': Tyre Nichols preliminary autopsy results

[WhiskeyGrinder]

22. The beating killed a man; I don't need to see it to know what happened. I'm not sure what you're

trying to say, though -- it all supports my point that the system is made to oppress and hurt.

[Tickle]

23. oh my that was not a the beating

it was CNN talking about it. I would never have pasted the beating

[Dustlawyer]

3. If any cop crosses the blue line their career is over and

they get death threats along with their family.

[Omnipresent]

4. It's probably not the first time they beat someone up.

They just happen to get caught.

[Kid Berwyn]

5. History.

[Stuart G]

6. Thanks For Posting That Picture. Your Word ..."HISTORY" ....is true.

[The Magistrate]

7. From Other Cops, Sir

Just like a toddler picks up a language....

[LonePirate]

8. I saw elsewhere that the Memphis police union has been very quiet

Usually police unions are the first ones to step up and defend the actions of the violent criminals who wear a badge.

[BlueTsunami2018]

9. From the job itself.

This is the way it’s been forever. Many people who take that job do so because they enjoy beating on people. They like the unquestioned authority, they like bullying others, they get off on hurting people and hiding behind the badge has always been a way to do it without consequence.

There are times when you absolutely have to beat the shit out of someone, that’s part of the gig. Dealing with the worst elements of society puts you in that position. There are some really bad people out there who need to be controlled and taken out of polite society.

It’s a double edged sword. You need someone willing to engage in violence to remove violent offenders. But you can’t have people so willing to engage physically that they can’t discern when it’s necessary and when it’s not. Or worse, that they want to beat on everyone they come across.

Those are the people who need to be screened out of eligibility.

[2naSalit]

10. A history lesson not taught in school...

[LakeArenal]

11. From the top...

[DVRacer]

12. End Qualified Immunity nationwide

This is one thing that will make a difference. It came from a court case in the early eighties so it has little historical significance. The only opposition to it is law enforcement even many Republicans support it being abolished.
One other thing is requiring body cameras for any state, local or federal law enforcement officers that contact the public and that during a contact it is unlawful to mute or turn off during an event. The story must remain clear for jurors as to what actually happened.

[Ocelot II]

13. It's the culture, and I don't know how to change that.

The academic training they get doesn't teach or approve that behavior, but they learn it from other cops. I think many people become cops in the first place with the best of intentions, but in order to survive in their cop culture they have to either participate or at least look away. The fact that the job tends to attract authoritarian-type personalities contributes to the problem. I used to know a few cops, and I remember one of them (from the same precinct as the cops who killed George Floyd, though long before that happened) stating that there are only two kinds of people in the world: Cops and assholes. In other words, if you're not a cop you're an asshole and you deserve whatever the cops decide to mete out. Of course that's not a universally-held belief but as long as there are cops who think that way there will be problems.

And I get that cops see a lot of bad behavior every day, which encourages cynicism, but that's no excuse. I hoped that after the trials and convictions of Floyd's killers the instances of police violence would decrease but that doesn't seem to be happening. I don't know what the answer is.

[treestar]

14. I read some interesting history about NYC

At first there were no police.

When the idea first came up, the police had the function of breaking up fights, which came into play and it was part of being a cop to get into the fight to break it up.

Researching the stereotype of the Irish cops in NY, it appeared that the Democrats of the era wanted their votes, and promoted that by giving them the jobs - Irish immigrants were already thought of as being drunken brawlers. (Think Paddy Wagons or the song Finnegan's Wake - a drunken brawl at a funeral).

In the old days they carried sticks. What were those for but to get people in line. This was congruent with corporal punishment thought normal in those days.

The unlearning of this only started in the 80s. That was just the beginning.

People who are getting into / causing trouble are not little children. Look at what Rodney King had been doing before that. Maybe what they did was not justified, but for dog's sake how is that to be handled? King was not going to be all reasonable and rational.

There were people here saying those like him should be let go and picked up later. So if they harm someone else in the meantime, whose fault will that be? You know the answer to that.

[ananda]

15. From juries who won't convict them?

???

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

16. from reality... seeing other cops get away with it

[Stuart G]

17. 7 words: "...seeing other cops get away with it." Thanks for posting those 7 words.

[multigraincracker]

18. I've known lots of cops and criminals.

Not much difference between the two.