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Demovictory9

(32,456 posts)
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 04:58 PM Mar 2023

Texas woman finds abortion support in washington...I went to a different country today," she said.

https://m.arcamax.com/currentnews/newsheadlines/s-2791672?fs

A. also found support from the Northwest Abortion Access Fund, boosted by thousands of new donors and pledges from Seattle, King County and Oregon in the months following last May's leak of the Supreme Court's draft decision on Roe.

The fund booked her flight and hotel, paying for both, as well as the abortion. The nonprofit also arranged for rides during her stay, and picked up the tab for breakfast and sandwich fixings delivered to her room.

"They've kind of made it so the only thing I really have to do is get there and heal," A. said.

'A different country'

A few nights later, A. sat on a bed with her sister in a Renton hotel room, near the clinic where she had an appointment the next morning. Her arrival in a place where abortion is considered a right, rather than murder, seemed to awe her.

"I went to a different country today," she said.
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Texas woman finds abortion support in washington...I went to a different country today," she said. (Original Post) Demovictory9 Mar 2023 OP
Welcome to civilization, Ma'am. Aristus Mar 2023 #1
Right? LymphocyteLover Mar 2023 #6
Goddamn right she went to a different country. The Unmitigated Gall Mar 2023 #2
Tragically, she's correct. catbyte Mar 2023 #3
Perfect! I feel like a blue point of light in a red country. nature-lover Mar 2023 #7
Gilead is real. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #4
Having grown up in MS and LA and now living in WA, it is a different country. nolabear Mar 2023 #5
"People are polite and reserved in ways that make them look at me like I'm nuts sometimes" BlueWaveNeverEnd Mar 2023 #8
Lots of people of Swedish descent. plimsoll Mar 2023 #9
I hear ya. Same here. paleotn Mar 2023 #11
TIL "cob smoked ham" is a thing... found this for ribs, gonna' have to give it a ride! MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #21
Spent 3 months in Oregon and Vancouver Island, BC back in 2017 with my honey MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #16
Cascadia. roamer65 Mar 2023 #27
I'm a 3rd generation Texan and I would NEVER go back to Texas. I LOVE Connecticut and feel CTyankee Mar 2023 #19
Happy and sad at the same time ybbor Mar 2023 #10
And USVI would be nice. soldierant Mar 2023 #25
My brother is in Spokane. He said lots of women leftyladyfrommo Mar 2023 #12
Pullman makes sense. ShazzieB Mar 2023 #14
Texas is definitely like a different country dlk Mar 2023 #13
Michigan day by day is feeling more like Ontario. roamer65 Mar 2023 #15
Michigan is my home state. shrike3 Mar 2023 #17
Def minority. roamer65 Mar 2023 #18
Welcome to the blue world. republianmushroom Mar 2023 #20
If any of you have kids looking for colleges to apply to, BonnieJW Mar 2023 #22
+ 1000 soldierant Mar 2023 #26
Damn right! MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #29
All the blue voters are leaving Texas and Florida. C Moon Mar 2023 #23
They are welcome in Michigan. roamer65 Mar 2023 #28
Red states get redder..blue states get bluer Demovictory9 Mar 2023 #30
It's od how the federal gov't is so much more free and liberal than local governments in red states world wide wally Mar 2023 #24
It is odd Demovictory9 Mar 2023 #31

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
5. Having grown up in MS and LA and now living in WA, it is a different country.
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 05:49 PM
Mar 2023

I’ve never been shy about my love for the coastal South. It’s a rich, fascinating, deeply soulful place and is simultaneously the batshit craziest place I have ever been. It gets in you and you become it, gators and fire ants and snakes and armadillos and music and magic. And all those stupid hate-filled, religion-based, racially insane things? Also true.

Seattle is cool in all ways. Nothing here eats you or causes a rash. People are polite and reserved in ways that make them look at me like I’m nuts sometimes after nearly forty years. I’ll talk to a rock. I’ll ask how’s your mamanem in the grocery line. Once they’ve figured I’m not dangerous they cooperate but don’t want to compare lives the way Southerners do. They mind their own business. They forget you exist. I’ve lived in my current neighborhood for four years and hardly know my neighbors. It’s lonely.

That said, I completely understand the Cascadia movement, the West Coast version of MTG’s divorce. We’re tired of the red state bullshit and smile at the knowledge that, if she got her wish, we’d control most of the big ports and about 70% of the agriculture. And we aren’t afraid to let them fuck around and find out, and help those who need the things those fools take away.

Note I say “we.” I’ve made my choices. Sometimes I know what I’ve missed by immigrating from that crazy country though.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(7,929 posts)
8. "People are polite and reserved in ways that make them look at me like I'm nuts sometimes"
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 07:03 PM
Mar 2023

California is like that.

plimsoll

(1,669 posts)
9. Lots of people of Swedish descent.
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 07:37 PM
Mar 2023

You hear about the Seattle chill, because we don't let you into our personal lives quickly. We're still happy you're here.

But despite the fact that it's a different country we also have boatloads dickheads, many of them homegrown. On the other hand I'm with Sherman Alexi, if I ever have to go to the South I'm going to make sure I have all my shots, and maybe get the ones required for travel to a third world country.

paleotn

(17,913 posts)
11. I hear ya. Same here.
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 08:13 PM
Mar 2023

I grew up in the green rolling hills of TN. The food and culture are ingrained in me, but I wouldn't live there again if my life depended on it.

Years ago on our first week here in VT, I called to order takeout...."I'd like to place a take out order please"..."OK"...and then silence. I didn't get the usual cultural cues I was use to like..."OK, honey, what can I get cha?"

The second time was "the dance". When two southerners walk up to a checkout line at exactly the same time, there's a little cultural dance we do...."oh, I'm sorry, you go ahead"...."oh, that's alright, you go next"...."no, I insist, you go next" and so forth until finally someone goes first. In VT it's "oh, I'm sorry, you go ahead"...."thanks!" and they step right in front of you. Not rude. Just a different culture I've come to understand and enjoy. They can't do BBQ worth shit and cob smoked ham IS NOT PROPER COUNTRY HAM, but I wouldn't live anywhere else.



MayReasonRule

(1,461 posts)
21. TIL "cob smoked ham" is a thing... found this for ribs, gonna' have to give it a ride!
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:52 PM
Mar 2023
Sauce:

1 cup ketchup

¼ cup water

1 tablespoon pepper

1 tablespoon onion powder

1 tablespoon Worcestershire sauce

1 tablespoon light corn syrup

1 tablespoon granulated garlic

2 teaspoons celery seeds

½ teaspoon liquid smoke


Ribs

5 tablespoons packed light brown sugar

1 teaspoon salt

½ teaspoon pepper

2 racks (2½-3 pounds each) baby back pork ribs, trimmed and membrane removed

1 cup cornmeal

6 corncobs, kernels removed and reserved for another use

For the sauce: Whisk all ingredients together in medium bowl to combine; set aside.

For the ribs: Combine sugar, salt and pepper in bowl. Pat ribs dry with paper towels and rub with sugar mixture; set aside. Using large piece of heavy-duty aluminum foil, wrap cornmeal in foil packet and cut several vent holes in top.

Open bottom vents of charcoal grill halfway. Place 13-by-9-inch disposable aluminum roasting pan on one side of grill and fill pan with 2 quarts water. Arrange 3 quarts unlit charcoal briquettes on opposite side of grill. Place cobs on top of unlit briquettes. Light large chimney starter filled halfway with charcoal briquettes (3 quarts). When top coals are covered with ash, pour over cobs and unlit coals. Place cornmeal packet on coals. Set cooking grate in place, cover and open lid vent halfway. Heat grill until hot and cornmeal is smoking, about 5 minutes.

Clean and oil cooking grate. Place ribs, meat side up, on cool part of grill opposite coals. Cover, positioning lid vent over ribs, and cook until ribs are deep red and tender, 3½ to 4 hours, rotating ribs 180 degrees every hour. During last 30 minutes of cooking, baste ribs every 10 minutes, rotating ribs each time.

Transfer ribs to carving board, tent loosely with foil, and let rest for 15-20 minutes. Cut ribs in between bones and serve, passing remaining sauce separately.

Serves four to six.

Cook's note: A gas grill can't do these corncob ribs justice, so please use charcoal. Heinz Organic works well for the sauce recipe.






MayReasonRule

(1,461 posts)
16. Spent 3 months in Oregon and Vancouver Island, BC back in 2017 with my honey
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 12:47 PM
Mar 2023

When we finally returned, we each said the same thing.

It was like we'd time traveled back in time and ended up behind the Iron Curtain of the former USSR.

Along our journey we found an enormous sense of community within reasoned, progressive, caring people.

We were each pulled simultaneously in the direction of myriads of opportunities that desired our participation wherever we roamed, from Eugene, Oregon all the way to a three story timber lodge on Vancouver Island, BC within the UNESCO Clayoquot Sound Biosphere Reserve.

If our daughter and partner were interested in joining us... we'd move.

We'd considered partnering in the purchase and operation of the Westfir Lodge, in Westfir, Oregon, in addition to the 3 Legged Crane Pub and Brewhouse in Oakridge. Westfir and Oakridge are bicycle proving grounds for world-class competitors.

Oddly enough at the time, the proprietor was the ex-fiancé of a local Louisiana "guitar hero" Buddy Flett that still performs locally and tours occasionally. Further, the ex-fiance had also operated a booth selling small batch organic goods next to my father-in-law's produce stand at our Farmers Market for the prior four or five years. Super-smart world-class lady!

We discovered these pleasant anomalies wherever we travelled. We were astonished as time and time again we were blown away by the number of kindred souls.

For us, the Pacific Northwest was a true revelation. It showed us an existence that had been only fabled desires prior to our journey.

We're forever changed!

Laissez bon temps rouler!!!

May reason rule.







CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
19. I'm a 3rd generation Texan and I would NEVER go back to Texas. I LOVE Connecticut and feel
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:00 PM
Mar 2023

accepted and respected here in New Haven. We have great art here and train access into Manhattan for museum-ing.

ybbor

(1,554 posts)
10. Happy and sad at the same time
Fri Mar 3, 2023, 07:51 PM
Mar 2023

What the hell are we witnessing?

We need to make DC and Puerto Rico states to get the the extra senators!

I was amazed when I heard how Lincoln split the Dakota Territory into two states when the territory itself had not reached the necessary qualifications necessary for statehood consideration just to get the 4 extra senators.

We need to start playing for the long haul. We are behind the game with respect to small ball politics. We’re better, but still need to shore up our game.

soldierant

(6,874 posts)
25. And USVI would be nice.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 04:11 PM
Mar 2023

I would love for Stacey Plaskett to have an actual vote in the House, for one thing ... (and she'd make a great Senator too).

ShazzieB

(16,396 posts)
14. Pullman makes sense.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 12:09 AM
Mar 2023

It's a college town (Washington State University) in eastern Washington, close to the Idaho state line. That's a pretty conservative region, and a town with a large state university is likely to be a liberal oasis, relatively speaking.

Carbondale, home of Southern Illinois University, is in a similar situation. As the school's name implies, Carbondale is way down south (6 hours south of Chicago), in a mostly red area. States that are a relatively short drive from Carbondale include Missouri, Kentucky, Arkansas, Indiana, Mississippi and Tennessee. A new reproductive clinic that opened there last fall was the first, but probably not the last, abortion care provider to set up in Carbondale, and the town seems poised to vecome an abortion hub for patients from surrounding states with restrictive abortion laws.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see other college towns like Carbondalecand Pullman becoming centers for reproductive care.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
15. Michigan day by day is feeling more like Ontario.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 12:46 AM
Mar 2023

Last edited Sat Mar 4, 2023, 03:23 AM - Edit history (2)

Looks like we are going to enshrine LGBT rights into law and also repeal the 1931 abortion ban to get it off the books.

MI House and Senate well on their way to doing both.

shrike3

(3,600 posts)
17. Michigan is my home state.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 12:55 PM
Mar 2023

My high school classmates are mostly Trumpers and the current trend in Michigan enrages them. I'm glad to see they're in the minority.

BonnieJW

(2,265 posts)
22. If any of you have kids looking for colleges to apply to,
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 01:56 PM
Mar 2023

do NOT let them go anywhere abortion isn't legal. You think, "If my daughter gets pregnant, I'll just bring home for an abortion.,"

What if she starts to miscarry? What if she has an ectopic pregnancy? The only treatment for that is abortion. Dead daughter

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
28. They are welcome in Michigan.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 04:28 PM
Mar 2023

My advice to liberal blue Texans… Move now before the Great Climate Exodus.

At that point there just may be immigration controls into the Great Lakes Region.

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