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jimfields33

(15,786 posts)
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 03:56 PM Mar 2023

NYPD: Take off masks before entering stores

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/face-masks-robbery-nypd-require-customers-remove-covid-19/

This is quite a turnaround. I’m shocked to see this as I never thought I would.


Face masks, once an essential Covid-19 protective measure, are now being worn by criminals to conceal their identities, according to New York police who are urging businesses to unmask customers before letting them in stores.

The recommendation is a 180-degree turn from mask-wearing norms at the onset of the pandemic. During peak periods of infection, federal agencies mandated mask-wearing in public places, while many businesses required customers to wear them on the premises.

Now, however, some businesses are banning customers from entering the premises with face masks on, saying the policy change is needed to identify thieves. And after numerous incidents, the New York Police Department is urging business owners to make shoppers remove their face masks and flash their features before being let in.
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NYPD: Take off masks before entering stores (Original Post) jimfields33 Mar 2023 OP
Nope. Not going to do that. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2023 #3
Fuck that shit. I've managed to stay alive through this crap for three years, rsdsharp Mar 2023 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2023 #5
Haven't seen that here in NYC Polybius Mar 2023 #29
Can they put their masks back on as soon as they're in the store? mainer Mar 2023 #4
This is what a fine jewelry store did even during the earlier days JI7 Mar 2023 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2023 #8
"It's an invasion of privacy" Having your face seen in public? EX500rider Mar 2023 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2023 #10
I think you will find that is not true-public does not equal private but the opposite EX500rider Mar 2023 #11
I assume it would be my choice: take off the mask so the store can take a photo, or ... JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2023 #13
Well bless your heart... MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #31
Same At The Pot Store ProfessorGAC Mar 2023 #19
Be sure to cough. nt usonian Mar 2023 #7
Easy solve. Door camera. Take off mask briefly before entering. nolabear Mar 2023 #12
Pretty much what the article says. maxsolomon Mar 2023 #18
LOL--far be it from me to actually read. nolabear Mar 2023 #20
Thank you nt Nittersing Mar 2023 #24
Simply refuse to do business with any store that bans masks yaesu Mar 2023 #14
So you can go in MuseRider Mar 2023 #15
Great point malaise Mar 2023 #21
NYC has some restrictive carry laws Shrek Mar 2023 #33
maybe for jewelry stores but other stores are just going to lose customers AlexSFCA Mar 2023 #16
100% reasonable to combat rampant, defiant shoplifting. maxsolomon Mar 2023 #17
I don't have to take my mask off, I have a medical exemption sanatanadharma Mar 2023 #22
I live in a seniors community. A number of people wear masks constantly. Earth-shine Mar 2023 #23
I would never shop in a store that asked me to remove my mask. To be effective, masks have to be liberal_mama Mar 2023 #25
+1 n/t area51 Mar 2023 #26
I concur. I vote with my dollars and my feet. That's economics 101... MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #34
I think masks were illegal in NYC prior to Covid. Renew Deal Mar 2023 #27
We have a local store that has a reasonable solution nuxvomica Mar 2023 #28
A "Believer" gonna' enforce "God's" rule Mayor - - Check... MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #30
Will we now tackle Tickle Mar 2023 #32

Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #1)

rsdsharp

(9,165 posts)
2. Fuck that shit. I've managed to stay alive through this crap for three years,
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 04:05 PM
Mar 2023

despite 3 hospitalizations, and three other trips to the ER. If I get covid, with my comorbidities, I’m dead. If I’m out of the house, and out of the car, I’m wearing a KN95. It’s not a balaclava, or a ski mask, or fucking panty hose. It’s a protective mask.

Response to rsdsharp (Reply #2)

mainer

(12,022 posts)
4. Can they put their masks back on as soon as they're in the store?
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 04:07 PM
Mar 2023

If it's just a 10 second reveal, and customers can hold their breath, it will be safe. Like TSA making you drop your mask as you go through security.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
6. This is what a fine jewelry store did even during the earlier days
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 04:12 PM
Mar 2023

You have to take the mask off for a few seconds as you enter so they can get the faces on camera and then they can put it back on.

Response to JI7 (Reply #6)

Response to EX500rider (Reply #9)

EX500rider

(10,839 posts)
11. I think you will find that is not true-public does not equal private but the opposite
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 04:34 PM
Mar 2023

You can try but at airports & banks & courts & DMV's etc they will need to see your face.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
13. I assume it would be my choice: take off the mask so the store can take a photo, or ...
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 04:40 PM
Mar 2023

... leave, find another store.

It has nothing to do with showing my face in public. It's a private store. I can patronize or not.

I agree with you: no explanation is necessary.



I was in a fine jewelry store a few months ago. I got a new battery for my Timex watch. Easy transaction. I put on a mask before I approached the counter.

ProfessorGAC

(65,000 posts)
19. Same At The Pot Store
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:44 PM
Mar 2023

The whole time CDC recommended masks it was that way.
. The first 6 months or so, it was curbside out back, and even in the car we had to pull the mask back.
They still have curbside but I don't use it anymore.
Since some chemotherapy patients go there, I still see patrons with masks, but they don't make them take it off anymore.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
12. Easy solve. Door camera. Take off mask briefly before entering.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 04:39 PM
Mar 2023

Lots of the local pot shops had this rule during the height of the pandemic. An employee hung by the door and made certain everyone took off the mask for a sec so the camera could see them.

Minor inconvenience to those who want to mask and major headache to those who want to rob.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
14. Simply refuse to do business with any store that bans masks
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 04:41 PM
Mar 2023

With all the other options available it's a buyers market. Be sure to call the biz to complain and say bye bye.

MuseRider

(34,105 posts)
15. So you can go in
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 04:42 PM
Mar 2023

with a gun without anyone knowing your intent but that mask is just one step too far into the danger zone? Ok.......

Shrek

(3,977 posts)
33. NYC has some restrictive carry laws
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 08:37 AM
Mar 2023

It would be very difficult to legally enter a business with a firearm.

maxsolomon

(33,312 posts)
17. 100% reasonable to combat rampant, defiant shoplifting.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:38 PM
Mar 2023

At least they'll know who to exclude.

When shoplifting gangs organized after the BLM protests, they'd walk out of the downtown Target with TVs and out of Nordstrom with designer bags. It pissed off most law-abiding citizens that there were basically no consequences.

I used to see Meth heads shambling out of the downtown Target with cases of beer or 12 packs of toilet paper to sell at 3rd and Pike. I don't see that much now.

sanatanadharma

(3,700 posts)
22. I don't have to take my mask off, I have a medical exemption
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 06:44 PM
Mar 2023

And religious scruples too, as well as covididiot-precedence.

Earth-shine

(3,996 posts)
23. I live in a seniors community. A number of people wear masks constantly.
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 06:47 PM
Mar 2023

They wear them even when outdoors.

It's because they are scared to remove them -- scared to death. Some of these 70, 80, and 90 year olds will die at their next illness whatever it is.

As discussed above, the idea of removing the mask momentarily when entering certain stores for the purpose of being photographed seems reasonable.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
25. I would never shop in a store that asked me to remove my mask. To be effective, masks have to be
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 10:29 PM
Mar 2023

worn constantly if indoors or crowded outdoor areas, especially if others are unmasked.

It takes me a while to get the seal just right over my nose and face with my 3M N95 Aura mask. I'm not going to have to do that over and over again and contaminate the mask.

It seems like the NYPD wants to force infect people. They are psychopaths to even suggest such a thing.

Ironically, when a shoplifting event occurs in my town and they put videos up on the news, the robbers are almost never wearing masks. I remember 2 people robbed a liquor store down the street from my house, during the mask mandate, and these two fools weren't even wearing masks.

nuxvomica

(12,422 posts)
28. We have a local store that has a reasonable solution
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 12:34 AM
Mar 2023

Even during the height of the pandemic, they had a big sign at the entrance asking customers to lower their masks as soon as they open the front door so a security camera could record their face. Anybody who didn't do that could still enter the store but they were watched more closely.

MayReasonRule

(1,460 posts)
30. A "Believer" gonna' enforce "God's" rule Mayor - - Check...
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 01:04 AM
Mar 2023

Law Enforcement Sycophant's Falling like the apples they are from their tree of injustice.

Got it.

FFS

No mask, no business, lol... No problem dip-shits!.

I vote with my dollars and my feet every minute of each and every day I'm around.

And y'all? Ya' wanna' be ne'er do wells???

Y'all can fuck right off...

OR

If you prefer, I'll put it in the local vernacular of my area, strictly for these obvious progenies of lead paint chips within NYC...

Well bless y 'all's hearts!!!



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