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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTFG's claims to dismiss Georgia special grand jury have been litigated already
TFG's bogus motion is very weak and makes claims that have been litigated. The Georgia Fulton County DA has gone to court to force witnesses to testify and the weak ass arguments being urged by TFG were raised and dismissed.
Link to tweet
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/20/trump-georgia-indictment-2020-election-00087876
Over the course of at least eight months of active investigation, the special grand jury heard testimony from some of Trumps closest aides and advisers, often after Willis battled and won court decisions to compel their appearance. She indicated in January that charging decisions based on the special grand jurys work were imminent.
But Findling argued that the entire process was defective and should be thrown out. The special grand jury itself should not have been treated as a criminal proceeding, he said. He said comments made by special grand jurors to media, as well as by the presiding judge in the case, Robert McBurney, tainted any future criminal proceedings. And he said Willis should have been disqualified from the investigation months ago, after McBurney disqualified her from pursuing evidence about one particular state official.....
The complaints by Trumps attorney echoed procedural complaints raised by witnesses throughout the months of the special grand jurys probe.
State courts in New York, South Carolina, Florida and elsewhere all rejected claims that the special grand jury proceedings were civil in nature and that therefore out-of-state witnesses could not be compelled to appear. That led to appearances by Trump allies Rudy Giuliani, Mark Meadows and Michael Flynn. And the Supreme Court similarly cleared the way for one key witness, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), to testify after he sought to challenge the special grand jury in federal court.
But Findling argued that the entire process was defective and should be thrown out. The special grand jury itself should not have been treated as a criminal proceeding, he said. He said comments made by special grand jurors to media, as well as by the presiding judge in the case, Robert McBurney, tainted any future criminal proceedings. And he said Willis should have been disqualified from the investigation months ago, after McBurney disqualified her from pursuing evidence about one particular state official.....
The complaints by Trumps attorney echoed procedural complaints raised by witnesses throughout the months of the special grand jurys probe.
State courts in New York, South Carolina, Florida and elsewhere all rejected claims that the special grand jury proceedings were civil in nature and that therefore out-of-state witnesses could not be compelled to appear. That led to appearances by Trump allies Rudy Giuliani, Mark Meadows and Michael Flynn. And the Supreme Court similarly cleared the way for one key witness, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), to testify after he sought to challenge the special grand jury in federal court.
Several courts have considered and rejected the arguments being advanced by TFG
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TFG's claims to dismiss Georgia special grand jury have been litigated already (Original Post)
LetMyPeopleVote
Mar 2023
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According to Prof. Tribe, the fake electors litigated TFG's arguments and lost
LetMyPeopleVote
Mar 2023
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EYESORE 9001
(25,923 posts)1. Children often make repeated requests after being denied
Some peoples children grow out of such boorish behavior.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,086 posts)2. According to Prof. Tribe, the fake electors litigated TFG's arguments and lost
Every time, DA Fanni Willis has called a major witness, that witness had tried to block the subpoena and have lost.
Link to tweet
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-georgia-motion-desperate-air/
Donald Trump's lawyers attempted to undo the full report of the special grand jury in Fulton County as part of a court motion this week. But according to Harvard constitutional law professor Laurence Tribe, the motion was essentially nothing.
The motion asks that the judge "preclude any state prosecutor agency from presenting or utilizing any evidence or testimony derived by the Special Purpose Grand Jury." MSNBC host Lawrence O'Donnell noted that it goes against a Georgia state law.
"I was a little worried at first, I thought it was going to be someone said it was a 485-pound document. It turned out to be 485 pages. Most of them were just filler it was very easy and a quick read over dinner, in fact," Tribe explained. "It doesn't say much of anything. It makes bizarre claims. It says that Judge Robert McBurney was really unfair. It doesn't show anything about a supposedly unfair. On the contrary, he ruled quite often against things that Fani Willis wanted to do. It asked to have Fani Willis, and her whole office removed because they were illegal or unfair. But that effort was already made by the fake electors, and they were quickly turned away by the Georgia courts. There is really nothing here. It is just air."
The motion asks that the judge "preclude any state prosecutor agency from presenting or utilizing any evidence or testimony derived by the Special Purpose Grand Jury." MSNBC host Lawrence O'Donnell noted that it goes against a Georgia state law.
"I was a little worried at first, I thought it was going to be someone said it was a 485-pound document. It turned out to be 485 pages. Most of them were just filler it was very easy and a quick read over dinner, in fact," Tribe explained. "It doesn't say much of anything. It makes bizarre claims. It says that Judge Robert McBurney was really unfair. It doesn't show anything about a supposedly unfair. On the contrary, he ruled quite often against things that Fani Willis wanted to do. It asked to have Fani Willis, and her whole office removed because they were illegal or unfair. But that effort was already made by the fake electors, and they were quickly turned away by the Georgia courts. There is really nothing here. It is just air."
emulatorloo
(44,109 posts)3. Sounds like yet another Trump lawyer who is gonna get sanctioned.
Thanks for the article.
drray23
(7,627 posts)4. maybe so but it will probably take a month for the motion to be denied.
Just a delay tactic.