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Black man told to leave California school board meeting (banned CRT) (Original Post) Demovictory9 Mar 2023 OP
Kickin' with DISGUST Faux pas Mar 2023 #1
Not all of CA is liberal wryter2000 Mar 2023 #2
But they're winning. orthoclad Mar 2023 #8
They'll win locally wryter2000 Mar 2023 #13
Inland from the coast is where you find Red State California.It's a fantasy to think that California Hekate Mar 2023 #19
I can't make out what they are chanting. Emile Mar 2023 #3
"Take that woman" (calling for the racist Karen to be thrown out as well) hlthe2b Mar 2023 #4
Thank you Emile Mar 2023 #6
I also heard the words, "Take the bigot!" joshdawg Mar 2023 #14
FFS!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2023 #5
No one teaches CRT to children, FFS maxsolomon Mar 2023 #7
Complete failure of our educational system and stupid belief in "American Exceptionalism"... Caliman73 Mar 2023 #9
Black People Were Enslaved in the US Until as Recently as 1963 tdot_steel Mar 2023 #17
Welcome to DU RussBLib Mar 2023 #20
They don't care where I came from (USA) IronLionZion Mar 2023 #10
Whenever anyone tells me "If you don't like this country, leave!" OldBaldy1701E Mar 2023 #16
Right there in Racist Orange County, where Black folks are treated like shit in public meetings. ancianita Mar 2023 #11
K&R Emile Mar 2023 #12
People like this disgusting woman believe that white people own the US, and no other race has a Lonestarblue Mar 2023 #15
they forget that African Americans have ancestors in US back to the 1600s. some of the BlueWaveNeverEnd Mar 2023 #18

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
19. Inland from the coast is where you find Red State California.It's a fantasy to think that California
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 07:48 PM
Mar 2023

… would yield 6 Democratic US Senators if it were broken into 3 new states — an idea that periodically pops up at DU. If you look at where California’s most rancid GOP US Representatives come from, they are reliably from inland — oil and agribusiness and rural. Yes, we definitely have more Democrats in the largest population centers, which happen to be coastal.

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
4. "Take that woman" (calling for the racist Karen to be thrown out as well)
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 05:05 PM
Mar 2023

They had NO right to make the black man leave. This is just so horrendous.

joshdawg

(2,648 posts)
14. I also heard the words, "Take the bigot!"
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 06:49 PM
Mar 2023

and the arrogant bitch just sat there like she did nothing wrong....ala trump her apparent hero.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
9. Complete failure of our educational system and stupid belief in "American Exceptionalism"...
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 05:23 PM
Mar 2023

that this is even a "controversy". First of all, CRT is NOT taught in our public schools at any level except possibly in some Graduate Level Courses or in Law Schools, and likely only as an elective, not required coursework. CRT is a theoretical legal framework that examines American History and Law to determine how racially biased laws affected and continue to affect people in the country today.

What these idiots and the parents that support them are actually trying to ban, is the ACCURATE teaching of American History in the classrooms. Without banning accurate history, the MYTH of American Exceptionalism and the ideas of White Supremacy which have permeated our society for are at risk of dying out. In my opinion, the sooner both die out the better for EVERYONE.

I have my own problems with the "1619 Project" as a curriculum, but unless you are completely ignorant or a proponent of White Supremacy, you absolutely cannot deny that American Society and history is steeped in racial discrimination both legal and social. The Holocaust was one of the worst events in History and while the Nazis in Germany in the 1930's and 1940's bear particular blame and responsibility for the atrocity, WE absolutely have to know that Hitler's government specifically took from the Racial Laws in the United States to build their legal framework to justify their treatment of Jewish people, Roma, and others who they targeted. The United States WAS A MODEL... The last chattel slave, by the legal definition of chattel slavery, was freed in the US in 1942. 81 years ago. The last legal discrimination statutes were challenged in 1965, just 8 years before I was born.

Yet we have a whole group of people who say, "The United States is not a racist country", SO... does it only take 58 years to completely transform a Country and society with over 400 years history of racial discrimination? Especially when a good 30% to 60% have varying levels of denial that there was even a problem to begin with?

tdot_steel

(7 posts)
17. Black People Were Enslaved in the US Until as Recently as 1963
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 07:35 PM
Mar 2023

Correction on the last slave in the U.S. per a historian and genealogist the last known slave was 1963.

https://www.livescience.com/61886-modern-slavery-united-states-antoinette-harrell.html

White landowners enslaved black Americans for at least a century after the Civil War.

That's the conclusion of decades of research by historian and genealogist Antoinette Harrell, who described her findings in a series of interviews for Vice published today (Feb. 28). Harrell has uncovered numerous examples of white people in Southern states entrapping black workers into peonage slavery — slavery justified and enforced through deceptive contracts and debt, rather than claims of ownership — even though peonage was technically outlawed in the United States in 1867, four years after the Emancipation Proclamation.

People enslaved through peonage may not have appeared in any ledgers as belonging to their enslaves, but the experience was indistinguishable in many respects from the brutal practices of the antebellum period. [6 Civil War Myths, Busted]

"I met about 20 people all who had worked on the Waterford Plantation in St. Charles Parish, Louisiana," Harrell told Vice. "They told me they had worked the fields for most of their lives. One way or another, they had become indebted to the plantation's owner and were not allowed to leave the property… At the end of the harvest when they tried to settle up with the owner, they were always told they didn't make it into the black and to try again next year. Every passing year, the workers fell deeper and deeper in debt. Some of those folks were tied to that land into the 1960s."

And Harrell found that the cruelty practiced by modern white enslaves toward the black people they enslaved through peonage was reminiscent of records from the height of chattel slavery. Harrell described the case of Mae Louise Walls Miller, who didn't get her freedom until 1963, when she was about 14. As a child, Miller would get sent up to the landowner's house on the farm where her family was enslaved and "raped by whatever men were present," sometimes alongside her mother.

Harrell pointed out that not every person enslaved through this system was African-American. Immigrants from places like Eastern Europe occasionally got caught up in it as well, she said, but "the vast majority of 20th-century slaves were of African descent."

Why hasn't this story been more widely told?

"People are afraid to share their stories," Harrell told Vice, "because in the South so many of the same white families who owned these plantations are still running local government and big businesses. They still hold the power. So the poor and disenfranchised really don't have anywhere to share these injustices without fearing major repercussions."

You can read the full collected interviews with Harrell at Vice. The article also contains a short documentary that follows Harrell as she conducts her research, and includes interviews with people who were enslaved through peonage.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
10. They don't care where I came from (USA)
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 06:38 PM
Mar 2023

they just want us to leave this country. They don't care where we go either. Just be gone from America.

Nobody wants to see his papers. Just like nobody wants to see my papers. They just know in their hearts that America is for racist idiots only.

Pointing out that exactly 0 K-12 schools teach CRT anywhere in the United States is a big problem for people who want some imaginary bogeyman to feel angry about.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,128 posts)
16. Whenever anyone tells me "If you don't like this country, leave!"
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 07:22 PM
Mar 2023

That is when I get to smile sweetly and say, "Hon, my family has been here since 1650. I think YOU should leave!" Those fake-ass patriotic rethugs always hate to hear that. They are convinced that anyone who is not as racist as they are could have only arrived in this country since like 1930. Plus, as I would have also said, "I prefer the esteemed gentleman over your dumb ass any day, so pretty please... LEAVE!"

(Yes, I know. Armchair quarterbacking and all that. But, I would have done both. I don't give a rats ass about those lunatics.)

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
11. Right there in Racist Orange County, where Black folks are treated like shit in public meetings.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 06:45 PM
Mar 2023

Home of Chapman College where John Eastman was head of the law school. Disgusting county. All the more reason we can't lose Katie Porter.

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
15. People like this disgusting woman believe that white people own the US, and no other race has a
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 07:16 PM
Mar 2023

right to be here. They are ignorant, but often loud. I wish I knew how to educate them, but I really don’t.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(7,927 posts)
18. they forget that African Americans have ancestors in US back to the 1600s. some of the
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 07:46 PM
Mar 2023

most virulent racists can only trace their roots back one generation or two.

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