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bigtree

(85,986 posts)
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 11:31 PM Apr 2023

Joe Biden's our winning candidate for '24

...and the Defendant will be the losing republican nominee.

Despite that certainty, the media churned out two delusory reports today.

One slippery angle taken by far too many major news orgs was that Trump's approval had surged among republicans- more than a few neglecting to mention the 'among republicans' part in an apparent attempt to slough off the political ball and chain the Defendant is now carrying with him everywhere he goes.

Criminal Defendant Trump isn't going get the votes of republicans who went for Biden in the last election by posting pictures of his shackles, or his pathetic mug behind fake prison bars.

There's no groundswell of GOP voters who are thinking more favorably of him as a prevaricating perp.

There's even less of a number of Biden's republican voters who are more attracted to a sniveling convict droning on about his supposed innocence. And there's a fast dwindling contingent of GOP voters still pining for a presidential candidate prattling endlessly about how he actually won what he clearly didn't possess.

That didn't stop others today from claiming President Biden only has support of a third of voters. But every one of the fantasy candidates the media prognosticators put up against the president (and even the fantastical ones) are going to fall away as voters focus and decide between a proven, productive, and rational leader, against the serial deviant that republicans are trying to re-foist on them.

There won't be any opening for anti-vaxers, spiritualists, or any other opportunists to lure voters away from President Biden, because he's fully engaged in accomplishing, managing, or maintaining most of the things that his opponents will merely be talking about.

Has anyone actually seen a republican initiative, proposal, or plan on what they intend to do about the issues facing Americans, beyond their political theater?

The little that's been revealed is a mashup of tax increases on working families, proposals to cut Medicare and Social Security, repeals of student loan forgiveness, rolling back environmental regulations, and continuing to defend and protect the very insurrectionists who violently threatened our votes the last time around.

They're not getting anywhere near the presidency with any of that.

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Joe Biden's our winning candidate for '24 (Original Post) bigtree Apr 2023 OP
Everything you say is exactly right, and refering to him as "The Defendant" should be mandatory... EarnestPutz Apr 2023 #1
This is a good post and what EarnestP said Tetrachloride Apr 2023 #2
And I think young people cilla4progress Apr 2023 #3
I stand with President Biden, do you? LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #4
. bigtree Apr 2023 #5
There was nothing in any news story suggesting Trump's boost was against Biden brooklynite Apr 2023 #6
that's just not true bigtree Apr 2023 #7
"why carry water here" brooklynite Apr 2023 #8
you have no way of knowing what I watched bigtree Apr 2023 #9
I was responding to your media comments: brooklynite Apr 2023 #10
so you disagree on that bigtree Apr 2023 #11

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
1. Everything you say is exactly right, and refering to him as "The Defendant" should be mandatory...
Thu Apr 6, 2023, 11:44 PM
Apr 2023

....on Biden's campaign trail.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
6. There was nothing in any news story suggesting Trump's boost was against Biden
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 09:01 AM
Apr 2023

All the stories were about the Republican Primary.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
7. that's just not true
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 09:36 AM
Apr 2023

...why carry water here for these sly reports which blurred distinction between candidate and party support?

The ONLY reason those polls were taken and reported en masse yesterday was to try and discount the effect of the indictment many of the SAME news orgs had presented as flawed and inconsequential, except for this canard (I unraveled in my post) that they were promoting about increased republican support for the Criminal Defendant.

Many of these reporters who regularly speak in self-serving shorthand about complicated issues, most often to conflate, inflate, or obscure important events and issues, DID NOT make the distinction between republican support and overall support.

Almost every one failed to even mention independents and others who are more infuential in elections, and the failure of the indictment to rally them to the Defendant's cause or candidacy.

How about not distorting what I took time to pay attention and relate here?

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
8. "why carry water here"
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 09:49 AM
Apr 2023

I don't; but neither do I start with the assumption that the media (outside of Fox et al) are in the tank for Trump and the Republicans and evaluate news on that basis.

"The ONLY reason those polls were taken"

Folks here endlessly complain about "horserace" reporting, because that's what the media does, because it's more interesting for the audience. There's no competition in the Democratic Primary, so the only story is the Republican Primary.

"Almost every one failed to even mention independents"

Because by and large independents don't vote in REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES, which was the point of the polling.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
9. you have no way of knowing what I watched
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 10:01 AM
Apr 2023

...except what I relate to you.

Whatever you saw may well comport with what you say. I can accept that without making blanket assumptions about the veracity of that defense.

But you're actually distorting what I watched, and what I related here about it in either a defense of media or a slam on my own veracity. Fark that. You're just wrong.

Those polls were a distorted snapshot of whoever responded, which would be disaffected republicans stirred up by the self-serving reporting of the very same. The looseness of reporter's language (and ostensibly, this meaningless and misleading polling) is both ignorant and insidiously deliberate. It covers for their lack of knowledge, as well as serve their bias against comprehensive reporting that might not serve their narrative.

Of course, I'm speaking generally, and it would be ridiculous to think I wasn't.

I DIDN'T CONCERN MYSELF, IN MY ESTIMATION OF BIDEN'S ULTIMATE VICTORY, WITH REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES. Whatever you're on about is a distortion of this post. Move on.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
10. I was responding to your media comments:
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 10:06 AM
Apr 2023

"Despite that certainty, the media churned out two delusory reports today. "

"One slippery angle taken by far too many major news orgs was that Trump's approval had surged among republicans" (e.g. the Republican Primary)

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