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bigtree

(85,996 posts)
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:32 AM Jan 2012

Juan Williams booed at Fox News debate for challenging Newt Gingrich on minorities, the poor

Fox News correspondent Juan Williams drew sustained boos during Monday night's Republican presidential debate in South Carolina, following a question to Newt Gingrich about his characterization of the nation's poor.

Williams was targeting comments the former House speaker has repeatedly made, saying poor children lack role models for work, and calling President Barack Obama a "food stamp president":

Williams asked:

Speaker Gingrich, the suggestion that you made was about a lack of work ethic and I've gotta tell you my email account and my Twitter account has been inundated by people of all races who are asking if your comment was not intended to belittle the poor and racial minorities ... you saw some of this reaction during your visit to a black church in South Carolina by a woman who asked why you refer to Barack Obama as a "food stamp president." it sounds like you're trying to belittle people.

Gingrich took issue with the question -- not unusual for him during debates -- and responded to Williams' question with a particularly sarcastic and personal opening, beginning with "now first of all, Juan ... he then went on to stand behind his comments, saying "more Americans have been placed on food stamps under President Obama than any previous president, and insisting that he's going to "continue to find ways to help poor people learn how to get a job, learn how to get a better job, and learn someday to own the job."

Watch:


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Juan Williams booed at Fox News debate for challenging Newt Gingrich on minorities, the poor (Original Post) bigtree Jan 2012 OP
Boy, we've become such a hateful country. Tragic. nt gateley Jan 2012 #1
No. GoCubsGo Jan 2012 #27
Good Lord! What country is this again? nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2012 #2
Comes with the fox territory he works for. /nt still_one Jan 2012 #3
The audience smelled racism in the room and frenzied like sharks over the scent of blood. JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #4
I wonder if Juan Williams is now having second thoughts The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2012 #5
Karma is a bitch for sure. Now he reaps what he himself has sown. CTyankee Jan 2012 #15
+ 1000 COLGATE4 Jan 2012 #18
He belongs with them... MellowDem Jan 2012 #32
That's like the Anti-Defamation League getting booed in Mecca's Grand Mosque Zalatix Jan 2012 #6
I really thought Juan Williams was going to keep his dignity itsrobert Jan 2012 #7
just watching juan on hannity's dreck show.... la la Jan 2012 #8
SC has only 8 Electoral Votes.... Grassy Knoll Jan 2012 #9
American Exceptionalism. joshcryer Jan 2012 #10
BUT THEY NEVER SAY HOW! All they do is complain and state BS rhetoric but ZERO SOLUTIONS. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #11
Benito Mussolini would love to be a part of this. Lint Head Jan 2012 #12
You'd think Juan, having been at FAUX for so long -- xfundy Jan 2012 #13
And why have more Americans been placed on food stamps under Obama? WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2012 #14
Well, Juan, lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #16
"a black journalist being booed by an overwhelmingly white audience in a deep South state..." pampango Jan 2012 #17
The dems should not take their convention anywhere near Carolina, fueling money into that economy. mfcorey1 Jan 2012 #19
I can't personally vouch for this bigtree Jan 2012 #20
I can: there is hope for NC appal_jack Jan 2012 #23
thanks, jack bigtree Jan 2012 #25
In both states it varies by region. GoCubsGo Jan 2012 #28
North Carolina is not South Carolina. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #24
Actually, in many ways it is. GoCubsGo Jan 2012 #29
Actually ... I live in NC, and visit SC regularly ... and no, its really not. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #39
The only reason NC is a battleground state... GoCubsGo Jan 2012 #40
And your point is??? JoePhilly Jan 2012 #42
My point is... GoCubsGo Jan 2012 #43
Sure, and rural PA is basically Alabama. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #44
Leave it to Fox to conduct a debate Shankapotomus Jan 2012 #21
A debate playing to South Carolina Republicans Prism Jan 2012 #22
Juan was clearly guilty of asking questions while black ... that's a felony in SC. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #26
Thanks. Scurrilous Jan 2012 #30
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #31
Welcome to DU.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #33
His stay was short - only about 15 minutes. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2012 #37
..and leave a good looking corpse.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #38
That was fast Irishonly Jan 2012 #41
Welcome... MellowDem Jan 2012 #34
you seem lost bigtree Jan 2012 #35
What BS treestar Jan 2012 #36

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
27. No.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 09:38 AM
Jan 2012

Only a certain portion of it is hateful, and you saw them here. As nasty as the 2008 Democratic primary was at times, we never saw this kind of vile crap, save for a handful of people. Most of them, like that Lady Rothschild clown, aren't even real Democrats. With the republicans, these blatant displays of hatred come on a regular basis. We've seen them in pretty much every "debate" other type of forum these cretins hold.

JohnnyRingo

(18,635 posts)
4. The audience smelled racism in the room and frenzied like sharks over the scent of blood.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:44 AM
Jan 2012

Juan Williams was the chum.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
5. I wonder if Juan Williams is now having second thoughts
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:47 AM
Jan 2012

about having sold out to the crudbags at Faux News who tolerate and encourage that sort of raw racism.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
15. Karma is a bitch for sure. Now he reaps what he himself has sown.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:45 AM
Jan 2012

Serves the bastid right. Let him squirm...and that audience can go rot in hell for all I care...

MellowDem

(5,018 posts)
32. He belongs with them...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:17 PM
Jan 2012

he's as bigoted as they are. If they turn their bigotry on him, all the better for karma.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
6. That's like the Anti-Defamation League getting booed in Mecca's Grand Mosque
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:50 AM
Jan 2012

I wouldn't take any boos seriously at a GOP debate.

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
7. I really thought Juan Williams was going to keep his dignity
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:53 AM
Jan 2012

By getting up, say, "Fuck this racist shit", take his mike off, hold his head up high and walk out of the room.

Then remembered he was Juan Williams.

la la

(1,855 posts)
8. just watching juan on hannity's dreck show....
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:00 AM
Jan 2012

...he told hannity he learned how to cause trouble from him ( i'm paraphrasing...)

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
9. SC has only 8 Electoral Votes....
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:18 AM
Jan 2012

They hated Obama then, they will vote against him this year, no surprise how they
reacted on Juan's question, that's cross burning country and it will never change.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
13. You'd think Juan, having been at FAUX for so long --
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:31 AM
Jan 2012

-- would "know his place."

Certainly, he knows cancervatives are mostly racists, but he loves the money too much to stand up and assert himself.

in other words, he's an asshole.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
14. And why have more Americans been placed on food stamps under Obama?
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:44 AM
Jan 2012

Eight years of Bush ripoffs and Republican inaction since, have left us where were at today.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
17. "a black journalist being booed by an overwhelmingly white audience in a deep South state..."
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 06:03 AM
Jan 2012

"It was a moment that will likely be dissected, debated and discussed for some time: a black journalist being booed by an overwhelmingly white audience in a deep South state on Martin Luther King Day, as a white candidate for president talked about the work ethic in low-income, majority black neighborhoods. It's hard to imagine a more charged few minutes in public life in recent memory."

Williams came back at Gingrich, asking the former speaker if his comments had been "intended to belittle the poor and racial minorities." The crowd, most of it white, booed Williams loudly.

Gingrich channeled resentment felt by some whites about political correctness with a salvo aimed at President Obama, followed by a high-minded summary of his own ideals.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/17/newt-gingrich-juan-williams_n_1209657.html

With Mitt (among others) alienating Hispanics and Newt (among others) alienating African Americans, the GOP might as well hang a "Whites Only" sign out in front of their party.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
20. I can't personally vouch for this
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 07:39 AM
Jan 2012

. . . but I've heard (several times) that there's a lot of difference between North Carolina and South Carolina. We do need NC and it's within reach.

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
23. I can: there is hope for NC
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 09:12 AM
Jan 2012

Not saying that the state is free of problems or rw nutbaggery (alas, we have plenty), but NC also a great education infrastructure, lots of progressive groups, and plenty of citizens who want to move forward.

-app

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
25. thanks, jack
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 09:17 AM
Jan 2012

Lot of stuff planned for our convention. Looks like a nice state to celebrate our democracy. I think we're going to borrow the Panther's football stadium for the acceptance address. Looking forward to it all.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
28. In both states it varies by region.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 09:45 AM
Jan 2012

In both states, the cities tend to be less conservative. While Charleston, Columbia and Greenville aren't as liberal as Asheville, I'd say they are on par with Charlotte and Raliegh-Durham. The rural areas of North Carolina, especially in the eastern part of the state, are just as racist and right-wing as rural South Carolina.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
39. Actually ... I live in NC, and visit SC regularly ... and no, its really not.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 05:06 PM
Jan 2012

As a simple example, one of the two was BLUE in 2008, one was not.

NC is a BATTLEGROUND STATE ...SC is not. The GOP is now struggling to hold NC, not so in SC.

And THAT is the key indicator of the critical difference between the two states. Not only is NC willing to vote for a Dem, its willing to vote for a BLACK dem ...

SC won't be doing either for a very long time.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
40. The only reason NC is a battleground state...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 05:12 PM
Jan 2012

...is because they have larger cities with more people living in them. That's where the majority of Obama voters reside. The rural areas of NC are no different than those in SC, which has more of them.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
42. And your point is???
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 06:33 PM
Jan 2012

You just described a rather large DIFFERENCE between the two states as a way to claim that they are basically the same ...did you miss that?

Also ... Charlotte is no just a larger city ... its more like cities in the north. Much more diverse that anything you will find in SC. Raleigh, not large, but diverse ... Asheville, not large, but liberal ... I could go on. Lots of areas that lean LEFT.

And then ... we could compare University systems ... UNC (including Chapel Hill, Greensboro, Charlotte, Asheville, Willmigton .... ), Duke, Wake Forrest .... versus what in SC?? ... Bob Jones University? (ok, maybe Clemson, but after that???)

What about education levels ??? Raleigh was #5 in the entire US ...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/16/the-most-educated-cities_n_649305.html#s115253&title=Washington_DC_Metro

Again ... NC and SC are worlds apart.



GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
43. My point is...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 08:55 PM
Jan 2012

Outside of the urban areas, they are NOT worlds apart. Their rural areas, of which there are many, are as racist and ignorant as those in South Carolina, if not worse. Eastern North Carolina is not Raliegh-Durham or Charlotte.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
44. Sure, and rural PA is basically Alabama.
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 03:59 PM
Jan 2012

You might think I'm joking. Most of my family still lives there.

PA continues to be Philly to the East, Pitt to the west, and Alabama in the middle.

But that does not make PA = SC.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
21. Leave it to Fox to conduct a debate
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 07:47 AM
Jan 2012

with the audience behaving like a bunch of animals. I suppose the Jerry Springer atmosphere gets more ratings.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
22. A debate playing to South Carolina Republicans
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 07:56 AM
Jan 2012

The only good that could come of that is an endless array of advertisements for Democrats to run in the general. And I think we got them.

Response to Scurrilous (Reply #30)

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
33. Welcome to DU..
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:25 PM
Jan 2012

I hope you enjoy your stay.



And if you had read more here before you posted you would have realized that your last paragraph is a huge bone of contention on DU still.

Irishonly

(3,344 posts)
41. That was fast
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 05:30 PM
Jan 2012

I don't think the jury has had time to decide on whether or not to hide the post. I am a bad person. I laughed at the post.

MellowDem

(5,018 posts)
34. Welcome...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:26 PM
Jan 2012

I don't think anyone on here was defending Juan. He's a bigot himself. See why he was fired from NPR.

Also, calling Obama the "food stamp president" is simply a dog whistle to bigots everywhere. Just like the old "welfare queen" bullcrap.

Considering we are in the worst recession since the Great Depression, none of which is due to Obama's or liberal policies, attributing the fact that food stamps have increased to Obama, or even focusing on "food stamps" of all things, which aren't even called that anymore, is just pure red bigoted meat slung to an audience of ignorant and hateful people that are fed paranoia and hate on a daily basis. It has been part of Republican strategy for a while, very clearly laid out in the Southern Strategy, to reach out to bigots in the south for electoral gains.

As for why this is called "Democratic" underground, it's because it is the proper way to say it, and has nothing to do with the small "d" democratic. "Democrat" is not proper grammer and is a popular way of slurring Democrats by those on the right if you didn't know. You don't seem to know a lot. Hopefully you have an open mind and can see from another perspective, which you seem to have little knowledge of.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
35. you seem lost
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:27 PM
Jan 2012

I think you meant to take a right turn . . . ended up here at Democratic Underground, instead.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
36. What BS
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:29 PM
Jan 2012

Keeping people poor so they keep voting for them? Don't think that would work except in upside-down universe. One of the top ten stupid right wing talking points.

People might saw what race they are in the emails.

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