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Joinfortmill

(14,525 posts)
Sat May 6, 2023, 10:31 AM May 2023

About the coronation of Charles...I'm just not feeling it.

The times have changed if my response is any indication... I'm just not feeling it like I did when I watched films of Elizabeth's coronation. It will be interesting to see if William ever makes it to the throne.

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About the coronation of Charles...I'm just not feeling it. (Original Post) Joinfortmill May 2023 OP
Me neither Arthur_Frain May 2023 #1
not your party..... dembotoz May 2023 #2
lol what did you expect to feel WhiskeyGrinder May 2023 #3
I'm just glad the news is back on. Earth-shine May 2023 #4
I'm not sure if it works on modern television Sympthsical May 2023 #5
Very astute analysis. llmart May 2023 #8
Given how long his parents lived ITAL May 2023 #20
Although check out photos of his hands wackadoo wabbit May 2023 #38
👍 Joinfortmill May 2023 #10
It all looks so Disney -- so cartoonishly fake. From the gilded carriage pnwmom May 2023 #30
I think it's frivolous JanLip May 2023 #40
While Charles might not be popular I think support will remain JI7 May 2023 #6
An unpopular opinion: I'd rather the system die jrthin May 2023 #9
Mine too claudette May 2023 #24
Not that anyone will allow me to decide, but Sky Jewels May 2023 #23
I actually dislike William. There's a certain air of nastiness about him ... n/t wackadoo wabbit May 2023 #39
I agree. Ilsa May 2023 #43
Fun fact IbogaProject May 2023 #7
I read in a book once... Cracklin Charlie May 2023 #11
Fascinating Joinfortmill May 2023 #35
Neither are all the former British colonies. milestogo May 2023 #12
Another time. Elizabeth's coronation came after a world wide depression and a war that devastated Srkdqltr May 2023 #13
The coronation went smoothly, except the third row got a little Harry. Beakybird May 2023 #14
Me either, but for different reasons Jilly_in_VA May 2023 #15
Seeing Camilla in that ill-fitting crown - ick. tinrobot May 2023 #16
Seems pretty standard fare maxrandb May 2023 #17
Its for the British people to decide how they feel, its their country, not ours Shanti Shanti Shanti May 2023 #18
Nobody here is actually claudette May 2023 #25
Feeling superior are we? They have a 1000 years of history and tradition to reflect on, its for them Shanti Shanti Shanti May 2023 #26
No, not feeling claudette May 2023 #27
Yeah, a long tradition and massive wealth built on plundering, brutalizing Sky Jewels May 2023 #28
Blah blah blah, and our country was founded on whiskey and slavery, so special Shanti Shanti Shanti May 2023 #34
But we don't continue to subsidize one family to live in unimaginable wealth Sky Jewels May 2023 #37
We are as entitled to have opinions of them as they are of us. I'm sure they have plenty pnwmom May 2023 #31
I remember a psychic said Charles would be the last king of England. raccoon May 2023 #19
Pretty sure Americans aren't supposed to be down with royalty. dchill May 2023 #21
I have a hard time not thinking about the centuries of colonial exploitation, Sky Jewels May 2023 #22
Some of it seemed sp awkward. Though I moonscape May 2023 #29
I kept wondering how many layers Charles was wearing. I saw a hot pink coat Ilsa May 2023 #42
Me neither MissMillie May 2023 #32
They both looked very tired and uncomfortable. Talitha May 2023 #33
👍 Joinfortmill May 2023 #36
I think the pageantry of Disney gives them a run for the money. nt pnwmom May 2023 #41

dembotoz

(16,866 posts)
2. not your party.....
Sat May 6, 2023, 10:38 AM
May 2023

has not been our party since say 1776

would imagine our 4th of july rather leaves them cold.....

Sympthsical

(9,197 posts)
5. I'm not sure if it works on modern television
Sat May 6, 2023, 10:44 AM
May 2023

Watched a little of it. I think some of the historical "veneer" is sheared off somewhat by seeing it in HD and color. The effect, for me at least, was like watching just another boring church service. I know the jewels were real, but they looked like Hollywood props in that kind of vibrant resolution.

The fact the aura and mystery of monarchy has diminished over time - it's hard to feel reverent about people you know way, way too much about - doesn't help.

I think Charles' age is also an issue. When his mother was crowned, she was a young woman and had an entire era of history before her. The country was recovering from the war - they were still rationing at that point - so people could invest their hopes for a better future in her. It was a cultural moment for a country that had just come through great suffering.

Not a lot of people get invested in someone who, by all accounts, is pretty much a temporary place holder for the person monarchists really want to see on the throne - William.

So it was all a bit dull without a lot of the contextual resonance that Elizabeth's coronation possessed.

llmart

(15,572 posts)
8. Very astute analysis.
Sat May 6, 2023, 10:53 AM
May 2023

I only watched the tail end of the whole thing and the first thing I thought of seeing them place that crown on his head was how old he is and looks. I felt the same about Camilla since she's actually a year older than me. I know I haven't lived the life of luxury or had people do everything for me, but even with that, most people in their mid to late 70's know they're in the waning years of their lives. I have to imagine that the younger generations aren't all that enamored of the monarchy. I liked how you termed it "temporary place holder".

ITAL

(656 posts)
20. Given how long his parents lived
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:09 PM
May 2023

Charles could live another 20+ years. Not sure he's gonna be that temporary.

wackadoo wabbit

(1,167 posts)
38. Although check out photos of his hands
Sat May 6, 2023, 08:39 PM
May 2023

He's got something going on — heart disease? liver issues? — that may affect his longevity, even taking into account the superior medical care he gets.

pnwmom

(109,028 posts)
30. It all looks so Disney -- so cartoonishly fake. From the gilded carriage
Sat May 6, 2023, 05:51 PM
May 2023

to the ridiculous clothing, it's all so over the top.

JanLip

(846 posts)
40. I think it's frivolous
Sat May 6, 2023, 08:48 PM
May 2023

It’s also ridiculous. In this day and time why do they keep having these ceremonies. Why are these people held in such high esteem? They’re no different or better than anyone else. They put their pants or panties on like the rest of us. It really is silly. I consider them free-loaders.

Jan

JI7

(89,289 posts)
6. While Charles might not be popular I think support will remain
Sat May 6, 2023, 10:46 AM
May 2023

for the system with people looking forward to William and Kate being King and Queen.

jrthin

(4,843 posts)
9. An unpopular opinion: I'd rather the system die
Sat May 6, 2023, 10:53 AM
May 2023

before these two take the throne; talk about empty vessels

Sky Jewels

(7,203 posts)
23. Not that anyone will allow me to decide, but
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:41 PM
May 2023

IMHO they should start to massively strip down the institution (e.g. sell of properties, reduce budget and staff, etc.) so that by the time W & K take over the monarchy is much more spare.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
11. I read in a book once...
Sat May 6, 2023, 11:01 AM
May 2023

That there existed a prophecy.

It went something like…when a Battenberg inherits the throne, it would be the end of the British monarchy.

Charles is a Battenberg.

I don’t wish it, or care, really. Just something I remember reading once.

Srkdqltr

(6,391 posts)
13. Another time. Elizabeth's coronation came after a world wide depression and a war that devastated
Sat May 6, 2023, 11:04 AM
May 2023

England. I think hers marked the new beginning it was hopeful and uplifting for people who had been through an awful time. His almost looks like a rise of monarchs in a time when some world rulers seem to be looking for one person rule.

Jilly_in_VA

(10,045 posts)
15. Me either, but for different reasons
Sat May 6, 2023, 11:26 AM
May 2023

Charles is a nudnik, and I cannot stand Camilla. They should be asterisks, and she will never be Queen in my mind.

tinrobot

(10,927 posts)
16. Seeing Camilla in that ill-fitting crown - ick.
Sat May 6, 2023, 11:32 AM
May 2023

I get why Harry isn't too keen on the whole monarchy thing.

maxrandb

(15,405 posts)
17. Seems pretty standard fare
Sat May 6, 2023, 11:45 AM
May 2023

A pumped up preening peacock inherits a bunch of stuff from his parents, becomes famous just for being famous, and gets to rule over a bunch of people.

Coronation of 2023, or election of 2016, it all kind of seems the same.

claudette

(3,641 posts)
25. Nobody here is actually
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:58 PM
May 2023

“Deciding” anything for the Brits. Just giving opinions and reactions to a display that has long passed its relevance

claudette

(3,641 posts)
27. No, not feeling
Sat May 6, 2023, 04:11 PM
May 2023

"superior" to anyone. That's reserved for the "royals" who believe their blood line makes them superior to commoners. It's not "history" to have a monarchy that is no longer relevant in today's world. It's ridiculous, in my opinion.

Sky Jewels

(7,203 posts)
28. Yeah, a long tradition and massive wealth built on plundering, brutalizing
Sat May 6, 2023, 05:11 PM
May 2023

and exploiting the labor and resources of colonies where brown-skinned people lived under the thumb of the royals and their brutal minions. That’s why Charles can ride around the pageantry in a golden carriage today.

Sky Jewels

(7,203 posts)
37. But we don't continue to subsidize one family to live in unimaginable wealth
Sat May 6, 2023, 07:28 PM
May 2023

and ask minions to pledge fealty to them just because they happened by chance to emerge from certain select vaginas.

pnwmom

(109,028 posts)
31. We are as entitled to have opinions of them as they are of us. I'm sure they have plenty
Sat May 6, 2023, 05:52 PM
May 2023

of opinions about Trump.

dchill

(38,633 posts)
21. Pretty sure Americans aren't supposed to be down with royalty.
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:33 PM
May 2023

So "not feeling it" is the proper reaction.

Sky Jewels

(7,203 posts)
22. I have a hard time not thinking about the centuries of colonial exploitation,
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:39 PM
May 2023

slavery, genocide, and plundering that built up the riches of that family.

How many nameless, impoverished workers died in, say, sugar cane fields to pay for that golden carriage, for instance?

moonscape

(4,676 posts)
29. Some of it seemed sp awkward. Though I
Sat May 6, 2023, 05:49 PM
May 2023

didn’t watch all of it, I did see the crowning and actually laughed. That crown looked like it weighed 100 lbs, Camilla was fussing with her hair when hers was placed, and reminded me as they sat there in their crowns like when one sees awkward animal pics when their owners dress them and they sit awkwardly in all the unnatural garb.

As an American I don’t have strong feelings one way or another, but could not get into the solemnity of the pageantry.

Ilsa

(61,721 posts)
42. I kept wondering how many layers Charles was wearing. I saw a hot pink coat
Sat May 6, 2023, 11:42 PM
May 2023

on him, too. Camilla's ladies in waiting wore dresses almost identical to hers, and their hair was very similar.Are they her look-a-likes for safe traveling or for when Camillas is tired of Charles pawing her?

I missed all of it this morning except for the balcony appearance at the end. I've seen bits and pieces of the earlier stuff. I liked that one of the songs was sung in Welsh.

MissMillie

(38,614 posts)
32. Me neither
Sat May 6, 2023, 06:28 PM
May 2023

though I admit I am feeling a little regret about not watching. The last one happened before I was born. I don't know that I'll ever get a chance to see another one.

I don't think much about the politics of it. Just the history.


I wonder if my Hulu account has a replay for me to watch.

Talitha

(6,655 posts)
33. They both looked very tired and uncomfortable.
Sat May 6, 2023, 07:16 PM
May 2023

Age has not been kind to Charles, and Camilla has always reminded me of a sad cow. I'll leave it at that.

But I have to admit to watching every Royal event that's broadcast.

Doesn't matter if it's a wedding, a coronation or a funeral.

Because when it comes to traditional pageantry, NO ONE does it better than the Brits!!

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