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Nevilledog

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Sat May 6, 2023, 05:15 PM May 2023

Now 7 horses have died at Churchill Downs



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LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — Horse euthanized after suffering knee injury in race ahead of Kentucky Derby, the 6th horse that has died in recent days.

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LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — A 7th horse has died at Churchill Downs ahead of the Kentucky Derby, with 2 euthanized after racing on undercard.
2:08 PM · May 6, 2023
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Now 7 horses have died at Churchill Downs (Original Post) Nevilledog May 2023 OP
Are you kidding me?? Just this year?? Peacetrain May 2023 #1
Oh my, how sad.I never liked the Derby. debm55 May 2023 #2
Just this week. I'd pull any horse I had there (not that I would have one, it's barbaric) Nevilledog May 2023 #3
I missed the stories on that all together.. it is just horrifying.. Peacetrain May 2023 #18
Not a coincidence. The races for the Triple Crown should be cancelled until the cause of in2herbs May 2023 #4
Most definitely Rebl2 May 2023 #6
Blood bath. Poor horses BlueWaveNeverEnd May 2023 #5
I loved animals. Was very fond of horses. Jarqui May 2023 #7
Hey, Jarqui. cilla4progress May 2023 #11
That's a bunch of steps in the right direction Jarqui May 2023 #13
Yep! cilla4progress May 2023 #14
Lifelong horse lover/caretaker here jeffreyi May 2023 #20
The last time I watched the Derby, crickets May 2023 #8
That's awful! 2naSalit May 2023 #9
Fucking cilla4progress May 2023 #10
Back in the 1960s UpInArms May 2023 #12
It is not just Churchill Downs. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2023 #15
But 7 in 10 days is not normal Nevilledog May 2023 #16
2,000 horses a year. 365 days in a year. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2023 #17
Horrifying. highplainsdem May 2023 #19
I can't stand to watch any horse race 🐴 anymore.😪 nt Raine May 2023 #21

Peacetrain

(22,881 posts)
18. I missed the stories on that all together.. it is just horrifying..
Sat May 6, 2023, 08:52 PM
May 2023

If I had a horse there I would pull it too!!

in2herbs

(2,947 posts)
4. Not a coincidence. The races for the Triple Crown should be cancelled until the cause of
Sat May 6, 2023, 05:23 PM
May 2023

these deaths are identified. Hopefully this approach would cancel horse racing entirely because the causes of these deaths will never be identified. Owners may want to blame jockeys, etc., but it all comes down to who will be charged.

Hate is a strong emotion but that is the emotion I experience whenever I see animal abuse.

Jarqui

(10,131 posts)
7. I loved animals. Was very fond of horses.
Sat May 6, 2023, 05:44 PM
May 2023

Instead of going to camp, I pleaded with a camp to hire me as a stable boy at 15.
I'd had some years of equestrian training and riding and I'd had years of experience taking care of sick animals.
They initially declined but when the one who got the job didn't work out, they gave me a shot.
Two summers. 36 horses. I got emotionally attached to nearly all of them.

I was never a fan of dressage. But three day event intrigued. Stadium jumping intrigued.

I schooled the horses to be safe with the kids and helped teach.
The second summer, they gave me a horse to break and train.
There were riders related to the Olympics on staff.

By the end of the second summer, I'd seen enough.
I was the fox in a mock hunt and what that event did to my horses sickened me.
As I reflected, aside from some exercise, there wasn't much going on that was great for the horses.
Turned me off. Got out of it completely.

cilla4progress

(24,804 posts)
11. Hey, Jarqui.
Sat May 6, 2023, 06:08 PM
May 2023

I lower level evented and competed in dressage...verrrrrrry lower level. I loved it! At that level it's just fun.

Now I'm far more into the "relational" approach to my horses. I use dressage as a foundation for my trail riding. I highly recommend Karen Rohlf...my guru in this! https://dressagenaturally.net/

Jarqui

(10,131 posts)
13. That's a bunch of steps in the right direction
Sat May 6, 2023, 06:40 PM
May 2023

Glad to see that.

Trail rides. Pack horsing through the mountains. etc
Stuff like that I can still enjoy because the horse tends to enjoy it as well.

jeffreyi

(1,946 posts)
20. Lifelong horse lover/caretaker here
Sat May 6, 2023, 09:34 PM
May 2023

My last, a rescue mare. 14 years of bliss. I live in an extreme unlimited rural area. Explored it as much as possible with my equine partner. Riding, camping. She loved it. I tried very hard to help this wonderful being have a good life, and succeeded, at least partially. These racehorse deaths are very troubling to me. Money money, the heck with the horses. Any true horse person would never subject a horse to that kind of stress at that early age. If you want to race them, fine, at least wait until their bodies are more mature, minimum 5 years. Equine endurance horses have to be at least 5 to participate in a sanctioned ride, at least in the USA, for good reason. I like the pageantry of the Kentucky Derby, and viewing the beautiful horses, but dread watching the race because of the potential for ugly injuries and fatalities, all too often realized. I will definitely skip this spectacle now, and in the future.

crickets

(25,995 posts)
8. The last time I watched the Derby,
Sat May 6, 2023, 05:57 PM
May 2023

the horse expected to win pulled up lame. The injury was obvious, horrific, and did not have to happen. I don't watch horse racing any more. I can't.

2naSalit

(86,997 posts)
9. That's awful!
Sat May 6, 2023, 06:04 PM
May 2023

Something really wrong is going on down there. One of the trainers was disqualified yesterday or today after one or more of his horses died.

What are they all dying from? Besides being put down for broken legs.

UpInArms

(51,296 posts)
12. Back in the 1960s
Sat May 6, 2023, 06:16 PM
May 2023

My dad took a thoroughbred racehorse home after they wanted to euthanize it because it had a broken bone in its leg …

He put him in a sling in the barn (hanging so he could balance himself on 3 legs) for what (as a child) seemed like forever …

Long story short, the horse never raced again and was one of my best friends …

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,931 posts)
15. It is not just Churchill Downs.
Sat May 6, 2023, 08:30 PM
May 2023

Some 2,000 thoroughbred horses are euthanized each and every year. It's the sport, and it's also the breeding of the horses. All modern thoroughbreds are descended from one of three (yes, three as in one, two, three) foundation sires in the late 17th and early 18th century. Read more here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3357536/

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,931 posts)
17. 2,000 horses a year. 365 days in a year.
Sat May 6, 2023, 08:47 PM
May 2023

That's 5.47 horses per day. 7 at one race track strikes me as well within normal variability.

So in those same 10 days some 54 horses died at racetracks. I have no idea how many race tracks are out there. Okay, a Google search says some 300, but that includes every type of horse racing, not just thoroughbred. Apparently, there are some 75 race tracks just for thoroughbreds. Which means horses are dying pretty much every single day at every single race track in this country.

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