If Trump wins the nomination

[iemanja]

The Democrats better not pull any punches and play nice guy. They need to run the footage of Jan 6 non-stop. They need to run the verdict being read (was it televised?) in the sexual assault case. They need to CONSTANTLY remind the country of what a criminal he is. Will they?

ETA: Hey! They've already released an ad!

https://democraticunderground.com/100217903923

[WarGamer]

1. Trump will be the GOP nom.

Here's the bottom line.

And I'll just throw this out there.

2020 was the "unusual" election. COVID gave us universal mail-in voting.

Trump got 74 million votes. That's MORE than any previous POTUS not named Biden got.

Biden got 81 million votes.

These are BIG numbers. We go back to regular election rules in 2024.

Who will show up to vote?

Who will get a larger % of their 2020 voters to show up?

I don't think Trump has lost more than 1% of the people who voted in 2020... and the people who voted AGAINST TRUMP in 2020 hate him even more...

[iemanja]

3. Democrats have a tendency to get complacent

and that's very dangerous.

[WarGamer]

5. Very dangerous.

All hands on deck, GOTV.

[Beautiful Disaster]

8. The Democrats were at an extreme disadvantage in 2020.

And it's not frequently mentioned but it needs to be.

1. Democrats didn't canvas for most the year. The party made the tactical decision to stop door-to-door canvassing in pretty much every swing state. The Republicans did not. That was a huge advantage for them and a big reason why Republicans were actually able to register more voters than the Democrats - especially in places like Pennsylvania.

It wasn't until October that the Biden team reversed course and allowed for door-to-door canvassing (possibly due to their realizing how vital it was to the election). But that left 'em very little time - in fact, just 33 days. It worked out but if Biden had lost that election, it almost certainly would have played a role.

2. Democrats didn't hold in-person campaign rallies for months. Trump did. Remember, Trump's first in-person campaign rally, while universally derided, was in the summer of 2020 (Tulsa, where Herman Caine got COVID and then died). Biden didn't even campaign outside his house until June 1st, when he visited AME church in Wilmington during the height of the George Floyd protests.

And Biden didn't actually start campaigning in-person until September. And those rallies he did hold were drive-in rallies that were very limited in capacity.

Trump, though? He was out holding rallies everywhere - and a lot of them were very large. Certainly larger than Biden's.

Don't think that didn't put Democrats at a disadvantage.

[Beautiful Disaster]

22. Na.

I think you missed the point entirely. The size of the crowds were not the point at all, though I appreciate you can get that much of a post out of it.

The point was that the campaign limited rally size significantly. It was intentional and that absolutely had drawbacks.

Rallies aren't just about crowd sizes. They're also GOTV events where you can register new voters, make sure attendees are registered and motivate said voters to actually vote.

They were very limited on that - Trump wasn't because he was holding large rallies in every state.

[RegulatedCapitalistD]

9. This is WHY we cannot tolerate ANY DISSENSION IN THE RANKS

We cannot be flippant about any attacks from the Far Left whatsoever....

[gopiscrap]

2. No the Dems always try to take the high road

we need to be in gutter right along with the repukes

[dalton99a]

6. Fuck The High Road

Our survival is at stake

[RegulatedCapitalistD]

10. Exactly...no pussyfooting around

No room for the Far Left Curmudgeons complaints. Squash that IMMEDIATELY like a groundfire.

[gopiscrap]

13. I totally agree

[hamsterjill]

14. Thank you!

The high road does not work when you are dealing with thugs.

[Captain Zero]

15. We need to be Give 'em Hell Harry Truman in 24

And Biden can do that.

[Martin Eden]

25. Define "gutter"

To me, that means misinformation and unfair personal attacks.

Going on the offensive by relentlessly attacking Trump with facts and videos including his own incriminating words is not gutter politics. Nir is it unfair.

The truth is on our side, and we have to wield it unmercifully.

[dalton99a]

4. Attack forcefully AND repeatedly

And do it again

[GuppyGal]

7. If Dump wins the nomination......Biden wins the Presidency. That is all. nt

[RegulatedCapitalistD]

11. And that is what will ultimately happen

But it will be ugly...they will purposely try to make it soo... to turn off voters.

We have to stand like a Wall and sing Bidens praises loud and strong. No room for the herding cats stereotype.

[ForgedCrank]

12. Failing to

understand his supporters is the real disaster waiting to happen.
They see all of those things you mentioned as oppression at the hands of Democrats.
All this stuff does is further embolden them and him.

[tinrobot]

16. He'll be the only major nominee with multiple criminal indictments.

Manhattan (already dropped)
Georgia (Dropping /July?)
Federal documents case
Federal insurrection case

Plus - New York State civil case.

And maybe another federal case for campaign fundraising violations.

He'll be so tied up in court, he won't have time to campaign.

[Murphyb849]

17. #DarkBrandonRises and is already releasing ads.

Link to tweet

?t=kRIENjL80AZ4kMBLQlXZfQ&s=19

[TomDaisy]

18. Rachel Bitecofer calls this Negative Partisanship and she recommends it

[EndlessWire]

20. I think that an indictment or two

might make a difference. He can be the GOP candidate all he wants, but he can't really be an effective President sitting in a jail cell, even if the law allows him to hold the office while sitting on his jail cot. The point is to discourage his base from counting on him being able to pardon himself and walk out from behind bars. Who will vote for him if he is in jail with a hefty sentence?

The other possibility is that he absconds when he gets indicted, or close to a verdict. That is acceptable to me, although I no longer believe that he will. He is arrogant enough to think that he will avoid liability. The DOJs record of convictions should be touted often, with honest analysis that he will be found liable. All the name calling in the world won't change the facts of the J6 insurrection.

He is absolutely counting on the DOJ's unwritten rule that you can't do anything to a Presidential candidate close to an election. He keeps mentioning that he is a candidate, like his liability or guilt shouldn't be pursued now. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: We need the criminal indictment on MAL documents pretty damn quick. The J6 indictment now is known to be a February or March 2024 event. Sure, we have the Stormy Daniels thing coming this year, but we need the Doc case this year also. I don't want to be sitting here watching his liability swirl down the drain because we just didn't do anything. I don't want this evil, fascist monster as President over anyone.

[W_HAMILTON]

21. Stop blaming Democrats.

Democrats haven't pulled punches, especially when it comes to Trump.

The media is the ultimate gatekeeper here.

Case in point, the Democrats pointed out what a fraud Santos is. The media didn't care, and thus the voters never heard much about it to care.

[lees1975]

23. The Democrats and the Biden Campaign need to push their DOJ to get indictments against him

and stretch their conviction record to include him and disqualify him. I don't think he has a snowball's chance in hell of winning this election, but as a law and order democracy, if we are going to allow exceptions for prominent rich politicians, then what's the point of an election. We might as well resign ourselves to being an autocracy and watch the country fall apart, because it will.

Indict and convict. Now.

[newdayneeded]

24. "If"?

Unless he falls dead from a stroke or heart attack, he's their nominee.