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Message to all non-Floridians on this website: (Original Post) Tommy Carcetti May 2023 OP
Bravo! Easterncedar May 2023 #1
Got it. milestogo May 2023 #2
Yep. FM123 May 2023 #3
Thank you Florida Democrats! . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #4
I was just thinking about this................... Lovie777 May 2023 #5
My son is one of them Freddie May 2023 #8
Tommy, you are da man..Thanks from West Palm. n/t SheilaAnn May 2023 #6
OK though I don't know if I can give up treestar May 2023 #7
If you like Florida Man, all you have to do is revert him back to his original purpose. Tommy Carcetti May 2023 #11
My one... 2naSalit May 2023 #13
+1000 Johnny2X2X May 2023 #9
3) We could use some assistance. In It to Win It May 2023 #10
+1000 CaptainTruth May 2023 #24
Amen! Pacifist Patriot May 2023 #55
Thanks for the post.. Deuxcents May 2023 #12
They came for the flyover states and I said nothing... EYESORE 9001 May 2023 #14
It's easy to mock from a safe place wryter2000 May 2023 #15
For sure... RevBrotherThomas May 2023 #83
.... CatWoman May 2023 #16
He's right and it breaks my heart Deuxcents May 2023 #70
Wow, love that guy. Thanks for sharing. nt LittleGirl May 2023 #84
Yeah I tried to get some traction on discussing regional bias TheProle May 2023 #17
Sorry, but as we are hurtling at break-neck speed towards fascism and the destruction of democracy maxrandb May 2023 #18
Unwilling to wait to surrender one of our 50 states to fascism? Hortensis May 2023 #35
Look at Ohio, look at Wisconsin, look at North Carolina maxrandb May 2023 #50
The way to defeat an enemy is to go after him, not everyone. Hortensis May 2023 #58
I think you are wrong maxrandb May 2023 #59
This. BlackSkimmer May 2023 #93
And Bugs Bunny gifs will win the battle? yardwork May 2023 #37
Bugs Bunny gifs are a very gentle way to comment on a state government attacking a corporation for Martin68 May 2023 #80
A US state is not a country treestar May 2023 #63
Sounds like Florida has an overworked tech support staff. paulkienitz May 2023 #19
I have Loved ones there.. it's Cha May 2023 #20
Hey, I live here and feel your pain! lark2 May 2023 #21
I feel your pain. Live in Texas. Nuf' said. nt AndyS May 2023 #22
Please don't judge me mgardener May 2023 #23
That's unpossible! Tommy Carcetti May 2023 #28
I was born and raised in Florida, and none of that bothers me. Native May 2023 #25
Well, speak for yourself then. Tommy Carcetti May 2023 #26
Speaking for myself is something I enjoy. Thank you for allowing me this opportunity. Native May 2023 #30
And, PLEASE, stop recommending people abandon their values Hortensis May 2023 #27
I work in a profession where that's not practical or easy to do even if I wanted to. Tommy Carcetti May 2023 #29
Let me guess... you wrestle gators? Native May 2023 #32
Teaching dogs to surf trikes me as more like Tommy Carcetti. Hortensis May 2023 #42
He may have come for the big "sand boom" but he's staying for the flesh-eating bacteria. jaxexpat May 2023 #53
lawyer treestar May 2023 #62
+1000 CaptainTruth May 2023 #34
THANK YOU! CaptainTruth May 2023 #31
+1000, except that I don't think FL IS the front line. Hortensis May 2023 #49
IMHO the front line runs through several states & FL is one of them. CaptainTruth May 2023 #91
+1 Give em hell Cap. FL still has many good folks of all ages & backgrounds. appalachiablue May 2023 #86
I was born in Florida: a place run by progressive Dems like Reuben Asken, Bob Graham and Lawton Chil JCMach1 May 2023 #33
Long-time resident of North Carolina salutes you. yardwork May 2023 #36
Lived there back in '80s jayschool2013 May 2023 #38
TYVM for bringing out the overwhelming support for UNITED states, Tommy! Hortensis May 2023 #39
Bravo nt XanaDUer2 May 2023 #40
My hat is off to you. Hope22 May 2023 #41
The word Floriduh was straight from a column in the Sentinel SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #43
I have zero desire to reciprocate. Tommy Carcetti May 2023 #61
Totally understand, but yaesu May 2023 #44
Happy to rec this mcar May 2023 #45
im in texas so i feel you moonshinegnomie May 2023 #46
Unfortunately, WcoastO May 2023 #47
I was on the front page of the Miami Herald with Bob Graham tavernier May 2023 #48
Not to worry lonely bird May 2023 #51
We love FL and are going to keep fighting. Jon King May 2023 #52
Hope Bugs calling a square dance is still OK KS Toronado May 2023 #54
We hear you msdogi May 2023 #56
How about "all the nuts roll down to Florida?" Warpy May 2023 #57
Floriduh LetMyPeopleVote May 2023 #60
Okay. nt Tommy Carcetti May 2023 #66
Florida's long had more than just political problems. Gidney N Cloyd May 2023 #64
Eventually most Floridians will be non-Floridians. roamer65 May 2023 #65
Best of luck to you, Tommy! Staph May 2023 #67
I am living in the state of Nixon, Reagan, McCarthy, Nunes and the frickin John Birch Society. usonian May 2023 #68
mmmm, no Skittles May 2023 #69
I don't care when the Florida government gets slammed because they 100% deserve it. Tommy Carcetti May 2023 #72
Why should I send my resources there? edisdead May 2023 #90
100% mahina May 2023 #71
So edhopper May 2023 #73
+1,000,000. I grew up in Florida, and would go back today if I could. ms liberty May 2023 #74
I encourage you- go for it! RainCaster May 2023 #75
+1, tnx from west central Florida... mitch96 May 2023 #76
As a Texan, I feel your pain. area51 May 2023 #77
As a Tennessean, I have no standing to look down on Florida. SharonAnn May 2023 #78
Florida is ground zero right now for the right's fascist takeover plans. I'm afraid the memes will Martin68 May 2023 #79
I can't judge. Texas is just as bad. ananda May 2023 #81
Where I live, we spray annually for invasive Floridians. Just pests. Wonder Why May 2023 #82
Cough, cough, Texas has dealt with this for decades. flying_wahini May 2023 #85
Any idea what the next regime will be like after DeSantis is gone? Poiuyt May 2023 #87
Hey Florida.... edisdead May 2023 #88
Same thing about cannabis_flower May 2023 #89
Thank you. But here's a warning from The Guardian: allegorical oracle May 2023 #92

Lovie777

(12,808 posts)
5. I was just thinking about this...................
Mon May 15, 2023, 12:26 PM
May 2023

friends are in blue areas in Florida, and they are aware of DeSatan's plan to turn Florida into a conservative hell hole. They are fighting back.

Freddie

(9,333 posts)
8. My son is one of them
Mon May 15, 2023, 12:29 PM
May 2023

Thankfully he’s in (probably) the last blue area left, Palm Beach County. He & wife have great jobs and just bought a house, but would come home (to PA) if they could.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,268 posts)
11. If you like Florida Man, all you have to do is revert him back to his original purpose.
Mon May 15, 2023, 12:35 PM
May 2023

Florida Man was a fun-loving, free-wheeling anything goes guy who liked to take his pet alligator to his local Wendy's. Nothing wrong with that.

Ron DeSantis isn't a Florida Man; Ron DeSantis is just an asshole.

2naSalit

(88,032 posts)
13. My one...
Mon May 15, 2023, 12:38 PM
May 2023

Reservation for sure. Florida man is a national icon now, for good or ill.

Something has to be done about the mini-florida sort of battle for control is happening in my R controlled state too.

Johnny2X2X

(19,726 posts)
9. +1000
Mon May 15, 2023, 12:29 PM
May 2023

We paint with too broad a brush state by state. Florida is a state Trump barely won, there are millions of Floridians who are horrofied by what DeSantis is doing and are working to fight back.

There are good Dems in every state, even states like Alabama and Mississippi has pockets of liberals doing their best to improve their states.

Deuxcents

(16,907 posts)
12. Thanks for the post..
Mon May 15, 2023, 12:37 PM
May 2023

Florida governor is about ready to sign papers for his presidential run in 2024. It’s all our fight now.

EYESORE 9001

(26,330 posts)
14. They came for the flyover states and I said nothing...
Mon May 15, 2023, 12:55 PM
May 2023

Actually, I said quite a lot on the subject. Regional chauvinism is most unbecoming, especially on an ostensibly Democratic board.

RevBrotherThomas

(840 posts)
83. For sure...
Tue May 16, 2023, 11:25 AM
May 2023

I am in NY - but in blood-red Nassau County, which just announced NO on asylum seekers/immigrants

maxrandb

(15,556 posts)
18. Sorry, but as we are hurtling at break-neck speed towards fascism and the destruction of democracy
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:14 PM
May 2023

forgive me my unwillingness to wait.

At one time, about 100 years ago, we tried to give the "good people" of Germany time to defeat fascism. By the time the fascist were done fixing the electoral process, the courts, the legislature and the schools and libraries, IT WAS TOO FUCKING LATE.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. Unwilling to wait to surrender one of our 50 states to fascism?
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:39 PM
May 2023

That IS pure appeasement, maxrandb. Right up there with the League of Nations' abandonment to fascist takeover of nations, including MEMBERS, that rightfully expected their help.

There are other and worse words than appeasement for that. And none of them mean stopping fascism, so just what is it you can't wait for?

maxrandb

(15,556 posts)
50. Look at Ohio, look at Wisconsin, look at North Carolina
Mon May 15, 2023, 02:21 PM
May 2023

Last edited Mon May 15, 2023, 08:30 PM - Edit history (1)

Look at all the states, including Florida, where the votes increasingly doesn't fucking matter.

In Ohio, Retrumplicans can win 49.8% of the state, and end up with 86% of the state and national representation.

The Retrumplican Party has won the national vote for president ONCE in the past 30 years, but have a 6-3 majority on the Supreme Court.

North Carolina is about to ensure Retrumplican rule for a fucking generation, or two, regardless of whether or not that is what a majority of the state wants, or votes for.

Retrumplicans in Texas are taking control of elections in the states largest blue county.

They just tried to violently overthrow our democracy, and won't fail the next time

I can't wait for people to realize we are perilously close to losing, or in some cases have, lost our democracy.

Maybe, instead of asking me what I can't wait for, ask the people of Florida just what in the fuck they are waiting for?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
58. The way to defeat an enemy is to go after him, not everyone.
Mon May 15, 2023, 02:44 PM
May 2023

And for that, first people have to get their personal ducks in a row. Define what they need to protect. What they need to fight and defeat.

Self discipline. Commitment. Courage.

"Florida Derangement" is distracting from what's happening in your state, and probably intended to.

Notably, Republicans in most red states have almost unbreakable control. But Florida's still a potential swing state. How many spitting at all the people of Florida in incredible displays of misguided fear and malice can say that about their own?

maxrandb

(15,556 posts)
59. I think you are wrong
Mon May 15, 2023, 02:58 PM
May 2023

The Anti-Apartheid sanctions of South Africa impacted all South Africans, not just the pro-apartheid folks.

The Montgomery Bus Boycott targeted all of Montgomery, not just the pro Jim Crow folks.

The Memphis Sanitation Strike targeted all of Memphis, not just the pro Jim Crow folks.

The Civil War targeted all of the Confederacy, not just the people that owned slaves.

The California farm worker strike targeted all consumers of produce, not just those that supported the slave labor conditions.

How you can see the landscape of the past 40 years, and not see the need for bold action, even economic sanctions on those attacking democracy, is beyond me.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
93. This.
Tue May 16, 2023, 02:53 PM
May 2023

I have many, many friends in Florida - most of them gay, and though they despise DeSantis, they howl with laughter when I tell them that according to DU, "genocide" is happening there right fucking now!

Sometimes I think there are some who just love to say their region is perfect, best, better than everywhere else, etc.

Every single state has these fools.

yardwork

(62,058 posts)
37. And Bugs Bunny gifs will win the battle?
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:45 PM
May 2023

The OP says he's fighting. Millions of Floridians are fighting. Nobody is saying to wait. The OP says stop mocking and start helping, that's all.

Martin68

(23,485 posts)
80. Bugs Bunny gifs are a very gentle way to comment on a state government attacking a corporation for
Tue May 16, 2023, 10:43 AM
May 2023

supporting diversity and LGBTQ rights. If you want to understand what real nasty political discourse is, I'll refer you to the never-ending attacks on Obama during his eight years in office. "Flori-duh" attacks everyone in Florida, so I have some sympathy with the post in that regard. But Bugs Bunny gifs? C'mon.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
63. A US state is not a country
Mon May 15, 2023, 03:32 PM
May 2023

it can be stopped. Most of DeSantis' crap in unconstitutional. Even Barret and Kavanaugh woud get that.

Cha

(299,437 posts)
20. I have Loved ones there.. it's
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:18 PM
May 2023

the mini Mussolini I hate.. and the State House.

I'm going to St Pete the last of September for my Nephew's Wedding Oct 1st!

lark2

(119 posts)
21. Hey, I live here and feel your pain!
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:18 PM
May 2023

This state has changed for the worse, that's for sure, but I've been here over 50 years all together and we have a nice little corner in "paradise" that I don't want to lose. I'm even considering signing up to work with FL Democratic party again for the presidential election.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,268 posts)
28. That's unpossible!
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:25 PM
May 2023

Because that would mean you live in New York, and apparently New York has everything figured out right by now!

Native

(5,981 posts)
25. I was born and raised in Florida, and none of that bothers me.
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:21 PM
May 2023

I've always been very fond of Floriduh.

For clarification, you guys are my family, and I know you don't believe that everyone in Florida is a racist idiot. That's why stuff like that doesn't bother me here, and it certainly applies to a wide swath of the population!

Tommy Carcetti

(43,268 posts)
26. Well, speak for yourself then.
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:24 PM
May 2023

It's like how members in some racial or ethnic groups will try to appropriate a certain slur made against them, while others want absolutely nothing to do with it.

I myself don't care for "FloriDUH" that much, in part because it's just so dull and tired as an attempt at humor.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. And, PLEASE, stop recommending people abandon their values
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:25 PM
May 2023

and duties to others,, and their votes!, in Florida to run like bunnies.

Contrary to a peculiar view of some on this topic, running and abandoning those who have to stay to their imagined horrific futures is the opposite of being principled and the opposite of taking a stand.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,268 posts)
29. I work in a profession where that's not practical or easy to do even if I wanted to.
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:26 PM
May 2023

So sorry, Florida, you're stuck with me, and I with you.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
42. Teaching dogs to surf trikes me as more like Tommy Carcetti.
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:58 PM
May 2023

Maybe he's an engineer who specializes in sand. That's definitely a Florida thing.

jaxexpat

(7,072 posts)
53. He may have come for the big "sand boom" but he's staying for the flesh-eating bacteria.
Mon May 15, 2023, 02:34 PM
May 2023

They all do......It's weird, I know.

CaptainTruth

(6,721 posts)
31. THANK YOU!
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:29 PM
May 2023

I'm SOOO tired of the "Florida is a lost cause, give up & leave" sentiment.

When the going gets tough the tough get going, but Democrats... what? Give up & leave? Is that who we are? No! We're not, no way.

Florida is on the front line of fascism in America & I'm staying here & fighting it every way I can.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
49. +1000, except that I don't think FL IS the front line.
Mon May 15, 2023, 02:21 PM
May 2023

Just spotlit and distracting from the fact that it is in a double rank of states where authoritarian takeovers are underway/being attempted. DeSantis is just greedy for personal attention for all the wrong things, like tRump.

But this is a dangerous time even in states where Republicans have unbreakable control, and most are no doubt happy to have the spotlight distracted to FL as they consolidate power and eliminate rights and protections for their own people.

It's also worth noting that a bunch of red-state governments are under complete Republican control and nowhere close to being flippable, but Florida is flippable.

CaptainTruth

(6,721 posts)
91. IMHO the front line runs through several states & FL is one of them.
Tue May 16, 2023, 12:30 PM
May 2023

That's how I meant it, probably not clear.

JCMach1

(27,609 posts)
33. I was born in Florida: a place run by progressive Dems like Reuben Asken, Bob Graham and Lawton Chil
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:30 PM
May 2023

I don't recognize my state any more.

yardwork

(62,058 posts)
36. Long-time resident of North Carolina salutes you.
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:41 PM
May 2023

What's happening in Florida could happen anywhere in the U.S.

George Santos got elected in New York. California is where Ronald Reagan got his start in politics, as governor. Literally any state could go rogue.

We need a 50-state strategy. North Carolina was abandoned by the DNC in 2022 and we lost a senate seat we should have had, plus we lost the state Supreme Court, plus the Rethugs now have a super majority in the legislature.

We need a 50-state strategy.

jayschool2013

(2,345 posts)
38. Lived there back in '80s
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:46 PM
May 2023

Too many people then. Way too many now.

Good luck with everything, including saving the state from the devastating effects of climate change.

It won't be easy.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
39. TYVM for bringing out the overwhelming support for UNITED states, Tommy!
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:49 PM
May 2023

And simple decency and intelligence.


Hope22

(2,006 posts)
41. My hat is off to you.
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:58 PM
May 2023

In Ohio I find it hard to defend a state that is selling its soul to the devils. Time will tell!

SouthernDem4ever

(6,618 posts)
43. The word Floriduh was straight from a column in the Sentinel
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:58 PM
May 2023

And I will use it as long as all the dumb dolts are running the state. I am in Georgia. Feel free to reciprocate.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
44. Totally understand, but
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:58 PM
May 2023

I will avoid all states governed by fascists like the plague. Nothing against the fine folk living there, just wouldn't spend a dime in nor feel safe in states run my fascists.

WcoastO

(55 posts)
47. Unfortunately,
Mon May 15, 2023, 02:20 PM
May 2023

the GQP Fascists steamrolled the Dems into irrelevance. Dems have absolutely no power....DeSantis barely won his first election for Governor; won by a landslide in the last one. GQP has super majorities in the legislature and hold every state office. Thanks to gerrymandering, the power is baked in and the GQP will make laws and rules to tighten the grip. SCOTUS will be of little help. Dems have lost a substantial % of the Hispanic support. I'm curious, just what is the plan to turn things around?

tavernier

(12,521 posts)
48. I was on the front page of the Miami Herald with Bob Graham
Mon May 15, 2023, 02:20 PM
May 2023

on his last official day before he retired. He came to the Keys to wrap Christmas presents for underprivileged kids, sponsored by the Keys Democrats. I was the only one wearing a Santa hat, so the photographers wanted me in the picture. Otherwise I was nobody important, L O L but I did get to meet him and have a short conversation. His interest in people was very obvious and he impressed me with his warmth and intelligence. And now we have Trump and DeSantis.

Anyway, My piece of the world is still paradise, and those two fools won’t drive me out. Thanks for the OP, TC!

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
52. We love FL and are going to keep fighting.
Mon May 15, 2023, 02:29 PM
May 2023

It works for our family because we are into outdoor sports and do not like cold weather. Not much to do but keep fighting the terrible people who control the government here.

msdogi

(430 posts)
56. We hear you
Mon May 15, 2023, 02:38 PM
May 2023

I believe that Florida, like all states, has more of us than them. They're just way louder and much less civil.

Warpy

(111,847 posts)
57. How about "all the nuts roll down to Florida?"
Mon May 15, 2023, 02:40 PM
May 2023

It's true, you know, even though there are still some on the trees elsewhere.

I was born there but I'd never want to live there, even without all the sourpusses I'd see every time I visited my parents.

Staph

(6,270 posts)
67. Best of luck to you, Tommy!
Mon May 15, 2023, 06:37 PM
May 2023

I'm from West Virginia, and we get the same stereotypical responses, even here on DU.

In the last year, we booted Joe Manchin's cronies from control of the WV state Democratic Party. It won't be fast, but things are going to change here. And I think, and hope, that things will change in Florida as well.


usonian

(10,433 posts)
68. I am living in the state of Nixon, Reagan, McCarthy, Nunes and the frickin John Birch Society.
Mon May 15, 2023, 10:08 PM
May 2023

For what it's worth,

Six states are majority-minority as of July 2019: Hawaii, New Mexico, California, Texas, Nevada, and Maryland.

Florida is right behind, with less than 60% non-Hispanic white population.
Llora en tu cerveza
Se acerca la ola azul



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_minority_in_the_United_States

What happened in California?
Abortion politics actually reinforces it.
https://medium.com/s/state-of-the-future/americas-paralyzed-politics-today-is-california-s-15-years-ago-5fc9c50eebc3

Why California Politics Is Always 15 Years Ahead
The Remarkably Prescient 15 Year Rule Means Trump & the National Republicans are on the Verge of a Spectacular Collapse
Peter Leyden
Oct 16, 2017
·
What do we mean by California is the future when applied to politics? Modern California politics has an uncanny knack of prefiguring what happens in the rest of America in about a 15-year timeline. In other words, what happened in California 15 years ago should be studied closely to see how it will play out in America today. And what’s happening now in California will roll out over America in the next 15 years.

California experiences the future earlier than other parts of the country. Californians invent many new technologies, adopt them early and adapt new systems around them relatively quickly. They absorb waves of immigrants at the highest numbers in the country and accommodate them into their society quicker. The state is a magnet for young people, entrepreneurs, and people who want to change the world. Much of the population is unusually open to trying new things in the economy, society, and in politics.



Prescient?

Lots more at the link.



Tommy Carcetti

(43,268 posts)
72. I don't care when the Florida government gets slammed because they 100% deserve it.
Tue May 16, 2023, 09:32 AM
May 2023

But to write Florida off itself as completely hopeless in “Fuck Florida” posts on DU, or insinuating that all Floridians are stupid vis a vis that tired “FloriDUH” nonsense…yeah, you’re going to have problems with me if you try that.

edisdead

(2,032 posts)
90. Why should I send my resources there?
Tue May 16, 2023, 12:27 PM
May 2023

Honestly why should I? Why should I send money, or phone bank, or write letters?

And I possibly would be buying a home there in the next several years but at this point it is a giant hell fucking no! My wife’s aging parents have a house there that we thought we would be moving into and retiring to at one point. Now…. Not a fucking chance.

I do feel bad for the people that do not support what is happening there that have to live there, but it isn’t JUST gerrymandering. Every time I go there (twice a year) I get accosted multiple times. Constantly getting screamed at and the most disgusting treatment. And this is in Venice! Yeah bad shit can happen anywhere, but it is off the damned charts in florida. I have witnessed ignorance beyond any other place I have ever been. People actively rooting against the states largest employer. Insanity.

Honestly I hope things change there. I just don’t see it happening until that state reaps exactly what the have asked for.

mahina

(17,964 posts)
71. 100%
Tue May 16, 2023, 09:00 AM
May 2023

I know how hard it is to keep the faith. We have an incredibly anti-democratic system here (Hawaii) even though the Republicans are in a tiny minority.

We go through this whole charade of the legislature every year and at the end just for people kill whatever they want that they don’t like no matter how the votes went. No matter what they said before. Surprise surprise they killed public financing of elections that way after it passed both houses. Again. Hang in there buddy.

edhopper

(34,024 posts)
73. So
Tue May 16, 2023, 09:35 AM
May 2023

Don't blame Florida voters who still support DeSantis by 60%.

Or just don't talk about how fucked up Florida is becoming under their very popular Governor? Or that their Legislature is over 2 to 1 Republican and the voters keep re-electing the people making the State what it is?

Martin68

(23,485 posts)
79. Florida is ground zero right now for the right's fascist takeover plans. I'm afraid the memes will
Tue May 16, 2023, 10:37 AM
May 2023

just have to keep coming until Florida elects a governor who understands democracy and free speech. I'm a Virginian, and we've taken a lot of well-deserved knocks over the years when our state government was Republican-dominated.

Wonder Why

(3,662 posts)
82. Where I live, we spray annually for invasive Floridians. Just pests.
Tue May 16, 2023, 10:59 AM
May 2023

I think it better that Florida be returned to Spain or the Seminole tribes. I don't think it can be saved. Even God decided He'd rather send floods there as the only alternative.

Poiuyt

(18,156 posts)
87. Any idea what the next regime will be like after DeSantis is gone?
Tue May 16, 2023, 12:09 PM
May 2023

It's my understanding that his term will be up in the not too distant future. If republicans retain power, will they be as extreme as they are now?

edisdead

(2,032 posts)
88. Hey Florida....
Tue May 16, 2023, 12:12 PM
May 2023

Yer sort of fucking it up for the rest of us. Or at the very least taking a big lead in directing it.

Sorry, it may not be personally your fault but YOUR governor is looking to spread his and your other politicians bullshit nationally.

cannabis_flower

(3,781 posts)
89. Same thing about
Tue May 16, 2023, 12:17 PM
May 2023

Us Democrats in Blue Texas (Houston, Austin, Dallas, San Antonio, El Paso) are trying as hard as possible.

allegorical oracle

(2,364 posts)
92. Thank you. But here's a warning from The Guardian:
Tue May 16, 2023, 12:44 PM
May 2023

On 1 July, a new law goes into effect that means a doctor can look a potential patient up and down, decide they are giving off homosexual vibes and refuse to treat them because interacting with gay people goes against their personal beliefs. The doctor will not face any repercussions for denying care and has no obligation to refer the patient elsewhere.

I wish I was exaggerating but I’m not. Last week, Florida’s Republican governor, Ron DeSantis, signed the Protections of Medical Conscience (pdf) bill, which lets medical professionals and health insurance companies deny patients care based on religious, moral or ethical beliefs. While the new law doesn’t allow care to be withheld because of race, colour sex, or national origin, there are no protections for sexual orientation or gender identity. The only bright spot is that hospitals must still abide by federal laws that require them to stabilise a patient with an emergency condition. In other words, you can’t let a patient die just because they’re wearing a Drag Race T-shirt.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/are-you-a-doctor-who-hates-treating-gay-people-come-to-florida-where-ron-desantis-has-legalised-bigotry/ar-AA1bgkVI?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=c89765ef8d3a4b52be38f8cb67d16ca3&ei=104

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