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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Thu May 18, 2023, 01:31 PM May 2023

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Names Dennis Kucinich as Campaign Manager

I just can't at this point

https://www.kennedy24.com/robert_f_kennedy_jr_names_dennis_kucinich_campaign_manager

The Presidential campaign of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. announced today that former U.S. Congressman Dennis Kucinich will serve as its campaign manager.

Mr. Kucinich has long been known as one of the foremost progressive voices in American politics. In 1977 he became, at age 31, the mayor of the city of Cleveland and one of the youngest big-city mayors ever. In 1996 he was elected to the House of Representatives, where he served for 16 years.

During his time in Congress, Kucinich led the effort against the Iraq War and the Patriot Act, and served as the chair of the progressive caucus. He competed in the Democratic Presidential primary in 2004 and 2008. He is the author of several books, including the acclaimed “The Division of Light and Power.”

Due to his early opposition to the Iraq War, free trade agreements, and the surveillance state, and his support for huge investments in infrastructure, Mr. Kucinich has earned a reputation as one of America’s most prescient politicians. In 2018 the Washington Post called him “the future of American politics.”
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Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Names Dennis Kucinich as Campaign Manager (Original Post) Recursion May 2023 OP
Well, of course! Kooks of the left unite!!!! nt LAS14 May 2023 #1
What? Not Bannon or Roger Stone? themaguffin May 2023 #2
the good news is, most States have sore loser laws. WarGamer May 2023 #3
He had said numerous times no way is he running as an Independent womanofthehills May 2023 #20
The sore loser laws may be challenged LetMyPeopleVote May 2023 #22
No reason to expect a lawsuit to succeed. brooklynite May 2023 #32
Because of course.... OnDoutside May 2023 #4
Probably pays really well... 2naSalit May 2023 #5
This makes me sad Easterncedar May 2023 #6
Agree. I had a lot of respect for him, even contributed to his campaigns. LoisB May 2023 #9
He worked for Fox...and bashed Democrats. Demsrule86 May 2023 #38
Defended Drumpf?! electric_blue68 May 2023 #56
I'll add my disappointment ... rog May 2023 #13
Yes. I so liked him back in the day. I thought he was smarter than this. nt crickets May 2023 #17
He's the same person he always was. nt pnwmom May 2023 #18
Yes he is. Seems to have fooled some though JohnSJ May 2023 #21
Surprisingly so PatSeg May 2023 #41
I had to click to see if this was written by Borowitz or the Onion rurallib May 2023 #7
So much for any respect I once had for Kucinich. (nt) Paladin May 2023 #8
Q stands for Quacks'!!.. and both major parties have them.. unfortuantely for the Republicans Peacetrain May 2023 #10
I remember when Kucinich was the darling of many DUers Kaleva May 2023 #11
:) Every candidate, no matter how whatever, becomes the darling Hortensis May 2023 #19
I have a great deal of respect for Kucinch, yet this is a huge error in judgement. BeckyDem May 2023 #12
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Welcome to DU. BeckyDem May 2023 #43
You do know he worked for Fox right? He was on Bill O'Reilly's show for God sakes...he Demsrule86 May 2023 #39
Couple of attention whores. bottomofthehill May 2023 #14
If they were just attention seekers, wnylib May 2023 #57
Wow There are few people with as rollercoaster relationship with the left as DK karynnj May 2023 #15
Don't forget his time at FOX bottomofthehill May 2023 #16
We had a dedicated group of Hillary-haters back then, and DK was one of their favs. nt pnwmom May 2023 #23
LOL! What a Pair! MineralMan May 2023 #24
Post removed Post removed May 2023 #45
Err, uh...wha? MineralMan May 2023 #46
Kucinich was seeing UFOs before it was recently made fashionable by the Navy. Earth-shine May 2023 #25
20 years ago I used to like Kucinich now he's changed 180 Tribetime May 2023 #26
Same. MuseRider May 2023 #44
Sure, why not? There's a guy who calls himself Vermin Supreme who keeps running for POTUS in NH. Vinca May 2023 #27
OFFS!!!! hatrack May 2023 #28
I'm so sorry to hear this. hippywife May 2023 #29
damn, I'm truly sorry to see this mike_c May 2023 #30
That picture of Kennedy, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn and Steve Bannon kimbutgar May 2023 #31
Post removed Post removed May 2023 #49
bye felicia! jcgoldie May 2023 #50
lol JI7 May 2023 #33
Well...now there's a pair to draw to. elocs May 2023 #34
Ugg boston bean May 2023 #35
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Welcome to DU. Enjoy you stay. Demsrule86 May 2023 #40
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I don't know what kind of retirement pension Congress pays DFW May 2023 #47
He used to work at Fox. Demsrule86 May 2023 #51
When does Nina Turner join in on the GOP stalking horse fun? nt 617Blue May 2023 #48
I'm not sure why this would surprise anyone? Kucinich has always been a nutcase. tritsofme May 2023 #52
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Welcome back...again... Spazito May 2023 #54
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Barf and barf. I memember when KUCINICH had a coterie here. UTUSN May 2023 #58

WarGamer

(12,515 posts)
3. the good news is, most States have sore loser laws.
Thu May 18, 2023, 01:35 PM
May 2023

So if Jr. runs in the primary and loses... he can't run in the General as an (I)

Although... some argue that Sore Loser laws are unconstitutional in a POTUS race.

womanofthehills

(8,819 posts)
20. He had said numerous times no way is he running as an Independent
Thu May 18, 2023, 02:30 PM
May 2023

He was just asked that again yesterday on “Breaking Points”-

brooklynite

(95,068 posts)
32. No reason to expect a lawsuit to succeed.
Thu May 18, 2023, 04:23 PM
May 2023

The Constitution says nothing about Presidential election candidates. All it says is that States can choose their Electors. There's no "right" or "wrong" way.

2naSalit

(87,012 posts)
5. Probably pays really well...
Thu May 18, 2023, 01:39 PM
May 2023

Some fucked up in the head billionaire is funding them so dennis will get his dime, no problem.

Demsrule86

(68,868 posts)
38. He worked for Fox...and bashed Democrats.
Fri May 19, 2023, 10:16 AM
May 2023

Populist Kucinich bashes Obama, defends Trump, Syrian dictator
Marty Schladenmschladen@dispatch.com
https://www.timesreporter.com/story/news/local/2018/04/07/populist-kucinich-bashes-obama-defends/12697396007/


'Dennis Kucinich has been an iconoclast from his earliest days as boy mayor of Cleveland, when he took on big banks and survived a recall election. On the campaign trail, he's espousing liberal ideas such as fracking and assault weapons bans.
But he's also struggled to explain statements and associations that many Democrats might find troubling.

They include his multiple defenses of President Donald Trump, his unwillingness to condemn Syrian dictator Bashir al Assad and his presence on the board of a foundation started by a former Texas congressman who published a racist newsletter.'

rog

(651 posts)
13. I'll add my disappointment ...
Thu May 18, 2023, 01:58 PM
May 2023

... but this is a deal-breaker for me, concerning my respect for Dennis. I don't know how he evolved to this, but there he is.

Really too bad.

.rog.

rurallib

(62,492 posts)
7. I had to click to see if this was written by Borowitz or the Onion
Thu May 18, 2023, 01:45 PM
May 2023

was surprised to see it wasn't.

So now how are Borowitz or the Onion going to top this one?

Peacetrain

(22,881 posts)
10. Q stands for Quacks'!!.. and both major parties have them.. unfortuantely for the Republicans
Thu May 18, 2023, 01:49 PM
May 2023

their Quacks got in power.. they need to do some major housecleaning

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. :) Every candidate, no matter how whatever, becomes the darling
Thu May 18, 2023, 02:27 PM
May 2023

of some group simply by investing half a minute's breath claiming to support a position they favor. And he chose some popular ones.

But if we don't examine candidate records and make a good faith effort to understand what the job of president requires... Just imagine if those who voted for tRump while knowing/admitting nothing real about him had written in their dog's name instead.

When I gave close attention to Cucinich, my takeaway was that, though well meaning, he'd already demonstrated the Peter Principle in action during his time in the house.

I'm sorry to hear someone known as a onetime Democratic presidential candidate has sunk so low as this, though. Embarrassing.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
12. I have a great deal of respect for Kucinch, yet this is a huge error in judgement.
Thu May 18, 2023, 01:56 PM
May 2023

Kennedy is unfit to serve. I don't care what he calls himself, Dem, Independent or whatever. Unfit, period.

Response to BeckyDem (Reply #12)

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
43. Welcome to DU.
Fri May 19, 2023, 10:28 AM
May 2023

He was never a serious contender for POTUS imo...that is not what I liked about him. I respected him and a few others for their moral leadership here, when others would not. Back then I doubt Kucinich would ever have supported a man like Kennedy, but people change and I have no idea what happened to him....sad.

By Lauren W. Whittington
Posted June 15, 2007
Last week when Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) held a news conference to tout the growing momentum for his resolution calling for the impeachment of Vice President Cheney, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) stood by his side.
https://rollcall.com/2007/06/15/kucinich-stands-alone-progressive-members-have-yet-to-support-his-white-house-bid/

Demsrule86

(68,868 posts)
39. You do know he worked for Fox right? He was on Bill O'Reilly's show for God sakes...he
Fri May 19, 2023, 10:18 AM
May 2023

promoted a book on Tucker Carleson's show.

wnylib

(21,813 posts)
57. If they were just attention seekers,
Fri May 19, 2023, 01:06 PM
May 2023

they would pose no problems. But I suspect that they are being funded and encouraged by RWers to pull votes away from Biden.

There is zero chance that they will get the Democratic nomination. But they will arouse interest from very idealistic people on the far left, the kind who would sit home and pout on general election day because their "perfect" primary candidate did not win the party's nomination.

The RWers are trying to split the Dem vote by promoting Kennedy/Kucinich.

karynnj

(59,511 posts)
15. Wow There are few people with as rollercoaster relationship with the left as DK
Thu May 18, 2023, 02:03 PM
May 2023

I remember in early 2005 when I joined that he was still viewed by a very dedicated group here as a hero. Looking back at 2004 posts, he was at some points the top one or two people wanted in the primary.

I also remember watching a very long CSPAN show covering a few Iowa primary caucuses. I had turned it on to learn more about the process, but ended up watching it for hours because I was fascinated. As to his team's political acumen, I remember that a few very unconvincing DK people trying to win over random people caucusing for others arguing that they could get him over the threshold (that they had failed on the first round) rather than joining any other team.

I remember DK staying in that race - with no delegates and almost no polling - until near the end. He was even more pathetic in 2008, but it was his complete unhelpfulness in the Congress after 2009 that I remember most. I remember he even had some dispute with the cafeteria there. It was not a surprise that he lost his seat in a primary race.

I honestly can not imagine who wrote the WP description of him as the "future of American politics" in 2018, when he was a had been who never really was.


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Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
25. Kucinich was seeing UFOs before it was recently made fashionable by the Navy.
Thu May 18, 2023, 02:45 PM
May 2023

Just sayin. Not that there's anything wrong with seeing UFOs.

https://www.cleveland.com/openers/2007/10/kucinich_at_debate_i_did_see_a.html

I'm obviously jealous because the closest I ever came to it was seeing Starlink satellites.

MuseRider

(34,142 posts)
44. Same.
Fri May 19, 2023, 10:35 AM
May 2023

I caucused for him in the state caucus. I had the numbers behind me as did a few others to be there. They reluctantly let us in the door, we had more than enough voters to qualify, and told us we would not be speaking or allowed to ask questions but we were allowed to stay and cast our vote for Kerry.

I did not love or hate Kerry and voted for him in the general without a bad feeling at all but that was a disgusting turn of what I thought the Democrats were in my state. It has changed from then.

He always had some crazy but all in all I thought he could move the country a little toward peace and not hurt anyone in the process.

I started getting mail from him just recently and was worried he was going to run again but this? Oh HELL no. That is all I have to say about this pairing.

Vinca

(50,339 posts)
27. Sure, why not? There's a guy who calls himself Vermin Supreme who keeps running for POTUS in NH.
Thu May 18, 2023, 02:50 PM
May 2023

Maybe he's available for consulting work.

hippywife

(22,767 posts)
29. I'm so sorry to hear this.
Thu May 18, 2023, 03:01 PM
May 2023

I worked Dennis's first presidential campaign, and really supported him and voted for him twice in the primaries. But it seems he's gone off the deep end since then.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
30. damn, I'm truly sorry to see this
Thu May 18, 2023, 03:53 PM
May 2023

That's just sad. It's the first time I cannot wish Mr Kucinich every success.

kimbutgar

(21,290 posts)
31. That picture of Kennedy, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn and Steve Bannon
Thu May 18, 2023, 04:14 PM
May 2023

Needs to be plastered all over the internet. RFK Jr is in the company of terrible people. And its obvious he is a right wing plant.

After seeing that picture whatever respect I had of RFK Jr was lost.

Response to kimbutgar (Reply #31)

elocs

(22,657 posts)
34. Well...now there's a pair to draw to.
Fri May 19, 2023, 08:47 AM
May 2023

I never liked Kucinich and hoped he would just stay faded away.

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DFW

(54,527 posts)
47. I don't know what kind of retirement pension Congress pays
Fri May 19, 2023, 11:09 AM
May 2023

But a paying gig is a paying gig, I guess. I don't think Kucinich realistically expects to be doing this job a year from now. I'm not so sure that Bobby sees it that way--yet. He will, though.

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