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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,523 posts)
Thu May 18, 2023, 02:18 PM May 2023

New York City May Be Sinking Under the Weight of Its Skyscrapers

From the Financial District’s sky-high centers of economic power to the pricey pads that rise above Billionaires’ Row, the great volume of towering buildings is part of what gives New York City its identity. But according to new research cited by the New York Post, the weight of those same buildings that give the Big Apple its soaring sense of bravado could contribute to the city sinking.

That’s according to the work of three University of Rhode Island oceanologists and a researcher from the US Geological Survey, who collaborated to publish their findings in the scientific journal Earth’s Future. The scholars first estimated the cumulative weight of New York’s buildings to be 1.68 trillion pounds, and then calculated the downward pressure these buildings exert on the mixture of clay, sand, and slit that make up most of the ground beneath the city’s streets.

Based on their model, New York experiences a “subsidence rate” (the technical term for sinking) of about one to two millimeters per year on average, though Lower Manhattan, as well as particular areas of Brooklyn and Queens, show a propensity for greater subsidence risk. As the authors note in their paper, much of lower Manhattan is currently no more than one to two meters above sea level, possibly exacerbating the effects of climate change in turn.

While one to two millimeters per year may not seem that much, the study’s authors warn that this amount is more than enough to cause major coastal cities serious problems in the future. “The combination of tectonic and anthropogenic subsidence, sea level rise, and increasing hurricane intensity imply an accelerating problem along coastal and riverfront areas,” the paper states. “Repeated exposure of building foundations to salt water can corrode reinforcing steel and chemically weaken concrete, causing structural weakening.”

https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/new-york-city-may-be-sinking-under-weight-skyscrapers

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New York City May Be Sinking Under the Weight of Its Skyscrapers (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2023 OP
Manhattan's sinking like a rock FSogol May 2023 #1
rising ocean levels will take care of the rest. oh well. lapfog_1 May 2023 #2
The level of buildings VGNonly May 2023 #3
What Faux pas May 2023 #4
One TO two millimeters/year? Likely they'll be able to zero in Hortensis May 2023 #5
Yes, so one meter in 500 to 1000 years. Mariana May 2023 #6
I'm actually surprised this hasn't been studied in NYC before, Hortensis May 2023 #8
More worried about cities like NOLA, built on basically mud...nt Wounded Bear May 2023 #7
Trump moving to Florida bought it some time lame54 May 2023 #9

FSogol

(45,603 posts)
1. Manhattan's sinking like a rock
Thu May 18, 2023, 02:20 PM
May 2023
I'll take Manhattan in a garbage bag
With Latin written on it that says
"it's hard to give a shit these days"
Manhattan's sinking like a rock
Into the filthy Hudson what a shock
They wrote a book about it
They said it was like ancient Rome
- Lou Reed

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. One TO two millimeters/year? Likely they'll be able to zero in
Thu May 18, 2023, 03:01 PM
May 2023

a bit better over time.

Serious issue, of course. As is this: "With UN reports estimating that the percentage of the world’s population living in urban areas could increase to as much as 68% by 2050,..." No doubt many are undergoing subsidence already.

Mariana

(14,863 posts)
6. Yes, so one meter in 500 to 1000 years.
Thu May 18, 2023, 03:06 PM
May 2023

IF it's happening at all. It hasn't been measured or anything. Estimates and models "suggest" it "may be" sinking by that much.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. I'm actually surprised this hasn't been studied in NYC before,
Thu May 18, 2023, 03:15 PM
May 2023

IF it hasn't. In any case, current technology should make taking lots of accurate measurements much more doable than in the past. Wouldn't be entirely surprised if there was an app for our smartphones.

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