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MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
Fri May 19, 2023, 02:31 PM May 2023

Satanists Sue Chicago For Not Allowing Them To Say 'Hail Satan' At City Council Meetings

CHICAGO — Local Satanists are raising hell with a new lawsuit alleging the city is barring them from saying “Hail Satan” at City Council meetings.

The lawsuit — filed this month by the Satanic Temple — says the city violated the religious group’s First Amendment rights by “excluding disfavored minority faiths” from giving an invocation at the start of City Council meetings.

Vavrick said he offered to send Chicago officials the full script of his invocation ahead of time.

The invocation:

“Let us stand now, unbowed and unfettered by arcane doctrines born of fearful minds in darkened times. Let us embrace the Luciferian impulse to eat of the tree of knowledge, and dissipate our blissful and comforting delusions of old. Let us demand that individuals be judged for their concrete actions and not their fealty to arbitrary social norms and illusionary categorizations. Let us reason our solutions with agnosticism in all things, holding fast only to that which is demonstrably true. Let us stand firm against any and all arbitrary authority that threatens the personal sovereignty of one or all. That which will not bend must break. And that which can be destroyed by truth, should never be spared its demise. It is done.

“Hail Satan.”

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Satanists Sue Chicago For Not Allowing Them To Say 'Hail Satan' At City Council Meetings (Original Post) MayReasonRule May 2023 OP
Excellent!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2023 #1
I Propose A New Rule... MayReasonRule May 2023 #7
And get religion out of politics. I recall my first communion as a little kid and I RKP5637 May 2023 #15
Fucking Right! MayReasonRule May 2023 #17
See folks gratuitous May 2023 #2
Dead On Point Y'all! MayReasonRule May 2023 #10
There is no reason to invoke a supposed deity in ANY government hearing Grins May 2023 #3
I think that's the point the Satanists are trying to make. Ocelot II May 2023 #4
That's Right. That's The Point... Among Many, Many Others. MayReasonRule May 2023 #9
Hail Satan! pandr32 May 2023 #5
Hail Reason!!! MayReasonRule May 2023 #18
k/r!! progressoid May 2023 #6
Thanks Y'all! MayReasonRule May 2023 #19
All or none....Hail Satan, Allahu Akbar, Praise the Lord etc. Thomas Hurt May 2023 #8
I Need Your "God" On My Side MayReasonRule May 2023 #11
I love it. roamer65 May 2023 #12
These guys are great. Scrivener7 May 2023 #13
I hope they take these lawsuits to states like FL, ID, TX, etc. LonePirate May 2023 #14
SAMUEL ALITO'S MOM'S SATANIC ABORTION CLINIC MayReasonRule May 2023 #16

MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
7. I Propose A New Rule...
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:05 PM
May 2023
Those that consume the flesh and blood of demi-gods are not allowed to ostracize others from society.

Seems only fair.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
15. And get religion out of politics. I recall my first communion as a little kid and I
Fri May 19, 2023, 04:59 PM
May 2023

wondered WTF is this ... eating the flesh of Christ and his blood. My buddy and I were always pissed we didn't get real wine instead of grape juice.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. See folks
Fri May 19, 2023, 02:36 PM
May 2023

It's one of those "either everybody gets to or nobody gets to" things. Official government proceedings really aren't a forum for expressing one's religious beliefs, no matter how sincerely held (or how conveniently any of those beliefs were formed, even if it's to pwn the libs). You need to publicly profess your faith? Go to a meeting of your co-religionists and wow each other with your public piety. The city council meeting is where the business of the city is conducted.

Grins

(9,459 posts)
3. There is no reason to invoke a supposed deity in ANY government hearing
Fri May 19, 2023, 02:46 PM
May 2023

To include Satan. It’s as prejudicial as it is stupid. Stop it.
Chicago and all city governments should learn from this.

Ocelot II

(130,538 posts)
4. I think that's the point the Satanists are trying to make.
Fri May 19, 2023, 02:55 PM
May 2023

They are not actual Satan-worshippers; they are anti-theists who are trying to demonstrate that in practice only some gods are permitted to be mentioned in government proceedings, and if the government agency are serious about freedom of religion they have to allow either all gods or none of them. So, if they don't want anybody mentioning Satan they can't allow the Christian god or Jesus or Allah or any other god to be mentioned either.

MayReasonRule

(4,099 posts)
18. Hail Reason!!!
Fri May 19, 2023, 05:12 PM
May 2023

According to the accepted Abrahamic retelling, YAHWEH wanted to destroy his creation.
"Satan" wanted to inform his creation.

Where Religion deceives, Mythology informs.
Where Religion obscures. Mythology reveals.

This, is that.
May reason rule.

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