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Despite the fact that Chicago is not even in the top 19 most violent U.S. cities per capita, cable news personalities and a lot of people who dont live here or have never visited the city seem to be obsessed with our crime and local politics.
The clip of Fox News correspondent Gianno Caldwell asking Naperville diners for their two cents on new Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson provoked widespread online mockery and rubbed a lot of us the wrong way, said Chicago marketer Matt Lindner, who tweeted about the interview.
https://blockclubchicago.org/2023/05/19/chicagoans-ask-fox-news-to-shut-the-f-up-about-chicago-with-new-t-shirts/
Naperville is a conservative far west suburb of Chicago. So fox went there and pretended to be talking to Chicagoans.
mopinko
(70,395 posts)guy he talked to w a south sider that had a kid murdered. just happened to be in a diner in naperville? i mean, could b, but
hairbrained is who made the shirts. and underwear company.
Skittles
(153,321 posts)bamagal62
(3,277 posts)Youve got to love Chicago! Why interview people in Naperville about Chicago? People who live in Naperville rarely ever even come into the city. Its like interviewing someone in Scarsdale about NYC.
Best tee-shirt ever!
Skittles
(153,321 posts)I will keep checking!
Kid Berwyn
(15,115 posts)Hey, hey! And Disco Night!
Martin Eden
(12,888 posts)Didn't realize it was going to be an historic event, so I regret not going with them.
I'm a Sox fan, but I don't hate the Cubs. In the mid 1960's I shook hands with Ernie Banks when he was still a player.
I grew up near Midway Airport but I 've lived in Downers Grove since 1986, right next to Naperville. My wife is a retired teacher, and she's appalled that some of the teachers she's known and liked for many years voted for Trump twice.
GoCubsGo
(32,103 posts)I didn't think it was going to be a historic event, either, but I'm glad I got to watch history being made. It was something else!
I'm a Cubs fan, but I don't hate the Sox. Except for when they play the Cubs.
DuPage County has always tended toward conservative. I find it hilarious that Fox couldn't even pick a town in Cook County to bring their clown show. I'm sure they sent the black guy there, expecting him to be subjected to racist taunts while on camera in order to stir up even more shit.
Kid Berwyn
(15,115 posts)I grew up on the other side of Lake Michigan, listening to Jack Brickhouse and watching Ernie Banks, Ron Santo and as many Cubs games on WGN as possible. The home games were in the daytime, perfect timing for when we got home from school.
Later on, as an adult, I lived in Rogers Park on the North Side, and had a great friend from the South Side who loved the White Sox. He also worked for both teams as a ticket booth operator, a union job.
Disco Night started out as a great idea. The execution didnt take into account all the flying, fiery record shards or the remaining mountain of plastic debris. The Tigers won on a forfeit.
Please know I have utmost admiration and respect for your wife and all educators like her. Those who support the mad fascist traitor, I believe, have failed to learned a most important lesson from civics: all are equal under law.
ETA: Mike Royko pegged Rupert Murdoch as The Alien. He was right about what he would do to Chicago, journalism and the Sun-Times. No self-respecting fish would want to be wrapped in a Murdoch newspaper.
Martin Eden
(12,888 posts)When that paper folded Mike Royko continued his column with the affiliated Sun-Times. He jumped ship to the Tribune when Murdoch bought the S-T.
Like Royko, I was a 16-inch softball player. My last season in that bare-handed sport was 1992 with my old neighborhood team. I still play 12-inch, which is the national slowpitch softball sport, and much more prevalent out here in the 'burbs.
LuvLoogie
(7,082 posts)That's what I tell the trump lickers I know. "you voted 4 times for that shit soul coward bigot who cheated on all of his wives."
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,089 posts)Sympthsical
(9,197 posts)"We're here talking to Chicagoans about their city . . ."
Where are you?
"Naperville!"
L.O.L.
For a long time, that entire suburb was pretty much gated. It's changed a bit as the exburbs become pretty much every other suburb.
Chicago has its problems. Notice they used "per capita" in their statistic. Sure. Good areas are pretty decent. But the bad areas are very, very bad. Spread and average them out and it's not the worst statistic. But you really don't want to hang around too long in the bad areas.
There are places in Chicago I will abjectly refuse to tread. And I say that as someone who still moves through the bad parts of S.F. now and then.
mucifer
(23,634 posts)positive changes with our new mayor.
Sympthsical
(9,197 posts)live love laugh
(13,234 posts)ms liberty
(8,633 posts)live love laugh
(13,234 posts)Sympthsical
(9,197 posts)One of the problems I have with current debate about cities is how utterly partisan the discussion has become. Republicans paint urban American as an unremitting hellhole. So there's kind of a reflexive defensive posture on our side to minimize and diminish problems in cities.
However, if we won't even acknowledge problems or ignore them, how exactly can we expect to address and resolve them?
I see this all the time in conversations about S.F. Homelessness is a problem here. Drug use and overdoses are a problem here. Property crime and theft are a problem here. Bring it up and it's, "Nuh uh! Republican talking points!"
And it's like, "Ok, so everything's fine. No notes."
I love San Francisco. Wouldn't live here if I didn't. It's one of the most beautiful cities in the world, in my opinion. The climate, the diversity, the culture, the natural beauty. All of it works to create a special city.
But it's got some fucking problems and an insular influence-peddling political system that clearly has no idea how to deal with them. That, for some reason, people really don't want to acknowledge or talk about, because that means someone on Fox might have a point about something. So, this denial and abject refusal to acknowledge sets in.
I don't find it interesting or helpful. Or even very liberal. Turning a blind eye to suffering out of partisan point scoring isn't supposed to be one of our things.
ms liberty
(8,633 posts)And I'm sure you've seen the comments about those states and the South in general. It is a failure on our part, this inability to look critically at ourselves here.
LuvLoogie
(7,082 posts)The Biden administration is pushing to increase funding for unsheltered homelessness in six cities. I don't have to tell you that there are those in power who oppose anything that the Democrats try to do to alleviate human suffering and ailments. MAGA refers to cities as shitholes. Their solution is to shoot or jail people who need help.
Sympthsical
(9,197 posts)And it's a largely single-party city in a largely single-party state.
At some point, self-aware accountability must be in play. Otherwise, what are we doing with our politics? Simply winning power isn't an end unto itself. We've had it here for some time, and things have been declining.
It shouldn't be as difficult to acknowledge as it seems to be.
LuvLoogie
(7,082 posts)L.A. has a higher rate of homelessness than does SF. Cities that don't have as much of a problem are suburbs and ex-urbs of larger metropolitan jurisdictions. You often find republican control of those municipalities, until they become more diverse. SF HAS applied a lot of funding, close to a billion annually. Many of the homeless in San Francisco have migrated from other states that don't have the more forgiving climate and have more punitive legislatures. Likewise, cities are more welcoming to the LGBT-Q community, immigrants, minorities, women's equality and reproductive rights.
Crime arises from the desperation of human blight and the preying on the vulnerable. The addicts and the homeless coalesce where they have a greater chance of survival. The perceived and empirical increase in these conditions is just evidence that our society isn't doing enough as a whole. In EVERY city where there is a large homeless population, African Americans make up 30% to 40% of that population. That is symptomatic of our treatment of them throughout our history.
Yes we all can do better and hold our representatives to account. Many park themselves in their offices and just collect their paychecks. But we have to be careful or we will end up electing mini-Orbans scapegoating the Roma.
live love laugh
(13,234 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,268 posts)I dont care about the Fox bullshit narrative, but crime is legitimately up in Chicago. I live in south loop after moving from NYC. Far far more carjackings here
almost never heard about carjackings in nyc, but they constantly happen within a couple miles of my apartment on southern tip of grant park. I do love my apartment though
amazing view of soldier field, the lake, and Sears Tower from the 62 floor. I run along the lakeshore and I can bike to work. Summers are awesome (winters suckkkk!!!).
There are issues though.
Since pre-Covid times, car theft and murders are up a lot
I do feel like its plateaued though and should come down. The group invasions of retail stores being robbed seems to have abated. Kim Fox and her ilk need to go. They need to prosecute the petty crimes again. Just like the white collar criminals, if you tell them where the boundary is for real trouble, theyll come within a millimeter of that boundary to avoid prosecution.
Red states are often worse, but one should acknowledge that there are real problems.
I even had a homeless guy randomly try to take a swing at me
luckily I ducked and he missed. He was lumbering towards me which telegraphed his moves I guess. I just kept walking like nothing happened. I should have punched back, but this is not someone youd really want to even touch for any reason. Right by the BP on Ida Wells near Clark St.
live love laugh
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kind of like the tree falling in the forest analogy.
In other neighborhoods it is just tsk tsk
they
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Crime has always occurred everywhere for centuries that includes Chicago. It is foolish to expect anything different when the population has doubled over the centuries at the very least.
As for prosecuting petty crimes, when did prosecution of crimes stop?
The whole idea that prosecution of crime is not happening, is a trope that is pushed by the right to criticize, mostly democratic cities like Chicago. Just this past election season in November commercials were everywhere, lying and scaring Chicagoans telling us that because bail laws were changing, killers and murderers and dangerous criminals were going to be let out of jail in January 2023 and bands of criminals were going to roam the city harming and killing people. Very much like the recent scare with immigration laws, where we were supposed to have a large influx of people over the border because of that law change. Where are they? It was bullshit and it is intended to undermine Democrats.
live love laugh
(13,234 posts)KS Toronado
(17,491 posts)FQX pure propaganda
why be brainwashed?
electric_blue68
(15,037 posts)The one USA city I haven't yet visited.
(I'd have also like to visit Seattle as well.)
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)STFU!
live love laugh
(13,234 posts)halfulglas
(1,654 posts)Trying to tie him to criminal organizations or something. They've been obsessed with it ever since. It's been an easy target because it's so large and much of its gun violence driven by the guns migrating from the bordering states. This way they distract their audience from the gun violence in rural areas.