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cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:11 PM Nov 2012

Dear America, I know how much you like to commemorate veterans and it's great...

But please don't forget that were are women veterans. Right now, there are over 2 million of us in the United States. Please, don't look down on us for saying we're veterans because we are women (which is what happened tonight at Olive Garden).

I was told twice that I was ordering off the wrong menu (the one for veterans). The second waitress asked for proof and looked at me like I was a lying piece of trash. I provided my VA card which says "service connected" on the front of it.

This was actually a demeaning experience.

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Dear America, I know how much you like to commemorate veterans and it's great... (Original Post) cynatnite Nov 2012 OP
What a DAMN good post! Texasgal Nov 2012 #1
what a horrible experience for you--I hope you spoke with the manager immediately. you are niyad Nov 2012 #2
ME, ME!!! Skittles Nov 2012 #3
Thank you Skittles! Texasgal Nov 2012 #18
Thank you for your service, cynatnite Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #4
Rec'd Kaleva Nov 2012 #5
Wow, unbelievable. nt Deep13 Nov 2012 #6
I'd send a note to the frigging Olive Garden corporate HQ. MADem Nov 2012 #7
To soften the blow a little.. pangaia Nov 2012 #8
Great post Arcanetrance Nov 2012 #9
Yup, it is annoying. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #10
I hope you had a word with the manager Scootaloo Nov 2012 #11
for what its worth THANK YOU oldhippydude Nov 2012 #12
In our town, this entire day has been dedicated to women vets. DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #13
Update: I spoke with the manager... cynatnite Nov 2012 #14
Good to know! Cha Nov 2012 #16
Glad to know vankuria Nov 2012 #26
thanks for following up on it and updating us. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2012 #28
Since you got some satisfaction from the manager... LiberalFighter Nov 2012 #34
I'm sorry that happened to you, cynatnite! And, it Cha Nov 2012 #15
Wish I had been with you not that you needed help. I'm proud of you. A veteran. nt jody Nov 2012 #17
I'm ashamed to admit this Control-Z Nov 2012 #19
Wasn't the Olive Garden on the boycott list? Ditto that. libdem4life Nov 2012 #20
That's shameful on the part of Olive Garden. MineralMan Nov 2012 #21
What made it worse for me is that it was in front of my son. I wished he hadn't witnessed it. n/t cynatnite Nov 2012 #22
It's just shameful. Had I witnessed it, the manager would have been MineralMan Nov 2012 #23
You should have asked for the manager... Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #24
Wow! USMCMustang Nov 2012 #25
First, thank you for your service! Chorophyll Nov 2012 #27
I think this comes under the heading of ignorance... blue sky at night Nov 2012 #29
That's ridiculous, I'm so sorry that happened to you!! SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #30
God! heaven05 Nov 2012 #31
You should have lifted your shirt and breastfed something - anything!! SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #32
Both of my sisters also served SeattleVet Nov 2012 #33
1. I hate that you went through that. 2. We had the same problem in The dallas mornings news w8liftinglady Nov 2012 #35
Dad had three brothers and six sisters DemoTex Nov 2012 #36

Texasgal

(17,045 posts)
1. What a DAMN good post!
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:13 PM
Nov 2012

Yes! I agree...

Women have been a big part of the military for a long time. We should NOT forget them!

Thank you for this post, really... THANK YOU. K&R

niyad

(113,329 posts)
2. what a horrible experience for you--I hope you spoke with the manager immediately. you are
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:16 PM
Nov 2012

correct, people do seem to forget that there are, in fact, women service members and vets.

I remember reading years ago about one of the WASPS-- her daughter was doing a paper about her mother's experiences, and the teacher gave the girl an "f"--saying that women were never pilots.

I am so sorry this happened to you.

Texasgal

(17,045 posts)
18. Thank you Skittles!
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:45 PM
Nov 2012

I am so proud to be in a circle with a "Kick ass" veteran!

Thank you for your service!

Summer Hathaway

(2,770 posts)
4. Thank you for your service, cynatnite
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:16 PM
Nov 2012

And you're right, that was a demeaning experience, and should never have happened.

I can only wonder what rock the wait staff you encountered have been living under, in order to NOT know that there are female vets.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. I'd send a note to the frigging Olive Garden corporate HQ.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:18 PM
Nov 2012

I'd tell them about your shitty experience.

There's no excuse for it. None whatsoever.

Fill out the form at this link and give them an earful:

https://www.olivegarden.com/Secure/Connect/?schemeredirect=true


You could call them if you'd prefer:

Olive Garden Customer Service Phone Number
1 (800) 331-2729

Now I have another reason to avoid those assclowns--their food sucks, now I find out they are shitty to my peers. Not cool.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
8. To soften the blow a little..
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:18 PM
Nov 2012

You have a president who has been told to show is birth certificate for 4 years. :&gt )

Hang in there...

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
9. Great post
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:19 PM
Nov 2012

My stepmother is a veteran and she has the same problem and she's one of the toughest people I know

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. Yup, it is annoying.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:20 PM
Nov 2012

(And I am putting it mildly).

Many still do not realize women folk serve, and in harms way no less.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
11. I hope you had a word with the manager
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:21 PM
Nov 2012

and informed him his establishment will no longer be receiving your money.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
13. In our town, this entire day has been dedicated to women vets.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:29 PM
Nov 2012

Flyovers, bands, women's vet organization.

All day long.

Oh, and thanks, cynatnite.
DBH

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
14. Update: I spoke with the manager...
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:30 PM
Nov 2012

She was stunned by how I was treated and promised to speak with the staff and more specifically the one who wanted proof. She said I should not have had to do that at all. I am getting a gift card.

Still not sure I want to go back after this.

LiberalFighter

(50,942 posts)
34. Since you got some satisfaction from the manager...
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:48 PM
Nov 2012

I would suggest now that you consider contacting your local newspaper to do a story about female military next year. You could mention that some people don't believe that women serve and had an incident but DON'T include the business in question since they responded positively.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
19. I'm ashamed to admit this
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:59 PM
Nov 2012

but I've never even thought of my own sister as a veteran. I'm not sure why. She was in the Marines for 16 years and has been a reservist for more than 10. She guarded embassies in two foreign countries and served in the middle east in 2006 - 2007. My niece (her daughter) is an EOD specialist currently serving in Qatar.

My apologies to you and to all the women I've neglected to show my respect for.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
20. Wasn't the Olive Garden on the boycott list? Ditto that.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:06 PM
Nov 2012

Two of my nieces served...none of my nephews. Go figure. And I'm damn proud of all 2 million of you. I had no idea.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
21. That's shameful on the part of Olive Garden.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:06 PM
Nov 2012

This should go to national news. I hope the person who waited on you was summarily fired. If I had been the manager, that would have happened. I worked with a number of women in the USAF during my period of service. Shame on that person.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
23. It's just shameful. Had I witnessed it, the manager would have been
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:52 PM
Nov 2012

dealing with another veteran, and I'm pretty formidable in situations like that. The whole restaurant would have known about it.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
24. You should have asked for the manager...
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:09 PM
Nov 2012

Or simply left. There's no reason for you to be treated that way.

And thank you, and all your sisters in uniform, for their service to our country.

 

USMCMustang

(109 posts)
25. Wow!
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:24 PM
Nov 2012

In my little brain I always include women vets in my thinking. My wife is active duty and I still hear people say they shouldn't be there. The look on their faces when I tell them she is over there.

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
27. First, thank you for your service!
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:32 PM
Nov 2012

Second: nothing good ever happens at Olive Garden. And the staff who treated you like that should be goddamned ashamed.

But for you,

blue sky at night

(3,242 posts)
29. I think this comes under the heading of ignorance...
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:37 PM
Nov 2012

so many people now a days are blind to social graces and never think twice about what they are saying or doing... I am so sorry this happened to you. I think women are coming to the forefront now as they are no longer going to stand for being treated as second class citizens...something you are truly not! I salute you today on Veterans Day, thanks for your service.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
30. That's ridiculous, I'm so sorry that happened to you!!
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:38 PM
Nov 2012

I'd love to take you to dinner and let you choose off of any part of the menu! Women Vets are very small in number but you sure did not make a smaller sacrifice! Thank you for your part in protecting the US!!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
31. God!
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:38 PM
Nov 2012

I wish I had been at the table next to you. I just don't understand the idiocy of some americans sometimes. I salute you. You are and your service is appreciated by me.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
33. Both of my sisters also served
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:40 PM
Nov 2012

in the Air Force, as did I. (One served just between the dates for American Legion membership eligibility - she served between VietNam and Lebanon/Grenada.)

I don't think they've had any hassles like you experienced, though... that's just *wrong*.

w8liftinglady

(23,278 posts)
35. 1. I hate that you went through that. 2. We had the same problem in The dallas mornings news
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:54 PM
Nov 2012

Every photograph, every article had exclusively male photos and names.
I had to remind the editorial board that there are FEMALE veterans,too.

Stay proud,and thank you.

DemoTex

(25,397 posts)
36. Dad had three brothers and six sisters
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:54 PM
Nov 2012

All but the youngest sister served in WW-II. Nine out of ten served in WW-II! It was an incredible family committment that was not unusual at the time.

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