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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:32 PM Nov 2012

Christian Conservatives Have a Sad

It is not as though [Christian conservatives] did not put up a fight; they went all out as never before: The Rev. Billy Graham dropped any pretense of nonpartisanship and all but endorsed Mitt Romney for president. Roman Catholic bishops denounced President Obama’s policies as a threat to life, religious liberty and the traditional nuclear family. Ralph Reed’s Faith and Freedom Coalition distributed more voter guides in churches and contacted more homes by mail and phone than ever before.

“Millions of American evangelicals are absolutely shocked by not just the presidential election, but by the entire avalanche of results that came in,” R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, in Louisville, Ky., said in an interview. “It’s not that our message — we think abortion is wrong, we think same-sex marriage is wrong — didn’t get out. It did get out.

“It’s that the entire moral landscape has changed,” he said. “An increasingly secularized America understands our positions, and has rejected them.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/us/politics/christian-conservatives-failed-to-sway-voters.html?_r=0
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/11/11/164958/07

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brewens

(13,588 posts)
5. They pushed hard enough to make it look like the entire Republican party was taken over
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:06 PM
Nov 2012

by extremists. Someone has to have the total number of abortion bills we had in this Congress. I think I heard in the 30's. I guess that's mainly grandstanding by teabaggers. They can crow about their bill back home.

Most of us don't lay awake at night worrying about abortion. I just talked to a buddy the other day and we agree, some girl that has nothing going for her and her boyfriend is a loser she's not even that interested in, if she has an abortion she potentially saves us alot of money. Unfortunate anyone has to go through that, but that's the way it is. Of course we can't have Democrat Congress members going around saying that, the right would have a shit fit!

I had another conversation with a conservative friend. He's one of my first bosses and doesn't like the tea party much. We agree that we wish everyone would just STFU about religion world wide.

The evangelicals are up against alot of people that sit back and shake their heads at what they are pushing. The don't get as much negative feedback as they should. It comes out of nowhere and bites them in the ass!

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. Maybe that's because we do not have a theocracy!
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:39 PM
Nov 2012

And the public does not want a theocracy.

Gees! You would think that these idiots would catch on. The United States has a secular government. It is one of the most brilliant things that the founders accomplished; that which few or none had done before them.

But they don't get it. Pshaw!

Whatta ya gonna do? Beat them with a clue stick? Huh!?

OnionPatch

(6,169 posts)
7. The majority of Americans see
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:24 PM
Nov 2012

the complete and utter contempt Christian conservatives have for the poor, the sick, the needy, the strangers....the "least among us". These were Jesus' main concerns. You call yourselves Christians, but you're a bunch of hypocrites. I, for one, am glad to see you defeated.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
8. The "moral landscape" is changing, huh?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:53 PM
Nov 2012

Yes, decent people reject the "morality" of conservative "Christians", which is: hate, bigotry, cruelty, selfishness, and deliberate ignorance.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
9. They need to wake up and realize their blind hatred and homophobia is no longer relevant.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:00 PM
Nov 2012

Conservative Christians have been out of control since the Reagan era - with pundits and preachers like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, hate mongers like Bryan Fischer and Rick Warren, just preaching violence and hate over the things that Jesus actually said. This election should be a wake up call - no, a slap in the face - to those beliefs. They need to get it through their skulls that this garbage has to stop if we want to return prosperity to our society.

JanT

(229 posts)
11. the moral landscape has changed
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:05 PM
Nov 2012

and i reject your god of hatred, bigotry, and pain. i want to believe that people are basically good and want to help others. simple and i no longer want to hear your evil. please just melt away like the evil witch did.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
12. Mr. Mohler, please raise your right hand and repeat after me:
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:16 PM
Nov 2012

"We have met the Pharisees, and they are us."

You broke the Second Commandment. By being "biblical literalists" you turned the Bible itself into an idol. You placed the letter of the law above the spirit, and people rightly rejected you.

BattyDem

(11,075 posts)
14. Their message was based on controlling other people's sex lives and reproductive choices ...
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:39 AM
Nov 2012

and they're surprised that it was rejected?? Did they honestly believe that people would happily vote for the party that wanted to make their most personal decisions for them?

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