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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(8,202 posts)
Sat May 27, 2023, 11:43 PM May 2023

US to give away free lighthouses as GPS makes them unnecessary

US to give away free lighthouses as GPS makes them unnecessary
Program aims to preserve the properties, most of which are more than a century old, to anyone willing to preserve them


Ten lighthouses that for generations have stood like sentinels along America’s shorelines protecting mariners from peril and guiding them to safety are being given away at no cost or sold at auction by the federal government.

The aim of the program run by the General Services Administration is to preserve the properties, most of which are more than a century old.

The development of modern technology, including GPS, means lighthouses are no longer essential for navigation, said John Kelly of the GSA’s office of real property disposition. And while the Coast Guard often maintains aids to navigation at or near lighthouses, the structures themselves are often no longer mission critical.

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The GSA has been transferring ownership of lighthouses since Congress passed the National Historic Lighthouse Preservation Act in 2000. About 150 lighthouses have been transferred, 80 or so given away and another 70 auctioned, raising more than $10m.

This year, six lighthouses are being offered at no cost to federal, state or local government agencies, non-profits, educational organizations or other entities that are willing to maintain and preserve them and make them publicly available for educational, recreational or cultural purposes.

They include the 34ft-tall Plymouth/Gurnet Light in Massachusetts. The octagonal wooden structure dates to 1842, although a lighthouse has been at the site since 1768. A previous beacon at the site was staffed by America’s first female lighthouse keeper.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/26/us-free-lighthouses-gps
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US to give away free lighthouses as GPS makes them unnecessary (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd May 2023 OP
How cool is that? Hekate May 2023 #1
Old joke: applegrove May 2023 #2
I was going to post that one, too!! DFW May 2023 #9
It is a classic. applegrove May 2023 #11
No question! DFW May 2023 #12
I don't think I want to hear that one. applegrove May 2023 #15
It was one of the best anti-bigot stories ever told. DFW May 2023 #18
Okay I'll read it. If you find it. I don't want that in my search history. applegrove May 2023 #19
I don't think you'll be disappointed DFW May 2023 #20
That is good. Thanks. applegrove May 2023 #21
Here is a real story. Old man gets hired by WalMart as a greeter. applegrove May 2023 #22
That's pretty great, too! DFW May 2023 #23
#Nobska Point lighthouse, Cape Cod, Massachusetts, elleng May 2023 #3
Keweenaw Waterway Lower Entrance light in Chassell, Michigan? Straw Man May 2023 #8
I work retail and just sent an item to Chassell, MI. Freethinker65 May 2023 #13
Wow! Yes, Chassell really is miles from nowhere. Straw Man May 2023 #17
my ancestors were keepers of the Plum Island NY light for 43 years..... Grasswire2 May 2023 #4
Plum Island is cool. It will be interesting to see what happends to that. TheBlackAdder May 2023 #5
How interesting NJCher May 2023 #7
I have a digitized copy of the log book... Grasswire2 May 2023 #16
I wish I had saved more of my money... DemocraticPatriot May 2023 #6
Let's split it! tavernier May 2023 #14
I've read from people who have acquired old lighthouses before. Axelrods_Typewriter May 2023 #10

applegrove

(118,965 posts)
2. Old joke:
Sat May 27, 2023, 11:57 PM
May 2023

CANADIANS: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the south to avoid a collision.
AMERICANS: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the north to avoid a collision.
CANADIANS: Negative. You will have to divert your course 15 degrees to the south to avoid a collision.
AMERICANS: This is the captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course.
CANADIANS: No, I say again, you divert YOUR course.
AMERICANS: This is the Aircraft Carrier USS LINCOLN, the second largest ship in the United States Atlantic Fleet. We are accompanied with three Destroyers, three Cruisers and numerous support vessels. I DEMAND that you change your course 15 degrees north.
I say again, that's one-five degrees north, or counter-measures will be undertaken to ensure the safety of this ship.
CANADIANS: This is a lighthouse. Your call!

DFW

(54,527 posts)
9. I was going to post that one, too!!
Sun May 28, 2023, 04:25 AM
May 2023

GMTA

How DARE the government render such an epic tale obsolete?

DFW

(54,527 posts)
12. No question!
Sun May 28, 2023, 04:49 AM
May 2023

It is right up there with Adrian Cronauer‘s „No Jews, Please“ joke. One for the ages.

applegrove

(118,965 posts)
19. Okay I'll read it. If you find it. I don't want that in my search history.
Mon May 29, 2023, 02:37 PM
May 2023

Last edited Mon May 29, 2023, 03:25 PM - Edit history (1)

DFW

(54,527 posts)
20. I don't think you'll be disappointed
Mon May 29, 2023, 11:25 PM
May 2023

I don't know where he got it. Adrian used to send me stuff like this while he was still alive and well. Curiously enough, Adrian and I never discussed our own religious beliefs (or lack of them). He was an incredibly well-read guy, and we always had so much else to talk about, the subject never came up. Neither of us thought it was important enough to waste our time with. Anyway, here goes:

A US Navy cruiser anchored in Mississippi for a week's shore leave.
The first evening, the ship's Captain received the following note from
the wife of a very wealthy and influential plantation owner:

"Dear Captain, Thursday will be my daughter Melinda's Debutante Ball.
I would like you to send four well-mannered, handsome, unmarried
officers in their formal dress uniforms to attend the dance."

"They should arrive promptly at 8:00 PM prepared for an evening of
polite Southern conversation. They should be excellent dancers, as
they will be the escorts of lovely refined young ladies. One last
point: *"No Jews please."*

Sending a written message by his own yeoman, the captain replied:
"Madam, thank you for your invitation. In order to present the widest
possible knowledge base for polite conversation, I am sending four of
my best and most prized officers."

"One is a lieutenant commander, and a graduate of Annapolis with an
additional Master’s degree from MIT in fluid technologies and ship
design."

"The second is a Lieutenant, one of our helicopter pilots, and a
graduate of Northwestern University in Chicago , with a BS in
Aeronautical Engineering. His Master’s Degree and PhD in Aeronautical
and Mechanical Engineering are from Texas Tech University and he is
also an astronaut candidate."

"The third officer is also a lieutenant, with degrees in both computer
systems and information technology from SMU and he is awaiting
notification on his Doctoral Dissertation from Cal Tech."

"Finally, the fourth officer, also a lieutenant commander, is our
ship's doctor, with an undergraduate degree from the University of
Georgia and his medical degree is from the University of North
Carolina . We are very proud of him, as he is also a senior fellow in
Trauma Surgery at Bethesda ."

Upon receiving this letter, Melinda's mother was quite excited and
looked forward to Thursday with pleasure. Her daughter would be
escorted by four handsome naval officers without peer (and the other
women in her social circle would be insanely jealous).

At precisely 8:00 PM on Thursday, Melinda's mother heard a polite rap
at the door which she opened to find, in full dress uniform, four very
handsome, smiling Black officers.

Her mouth fell open, but pulling herself together, she stammered,
"There must be some mistake."
"No, Madam," said the first officer.
"Captain Goldberg never makes mistakes."

applegrove

(118,965 posts)
22. Here is a real story. Old man gets hired by WalMart as a greeter.
Mon May 29, 2023, 11:41 PM
May 2023

He arrives late on the first day.

He arrives late the second day.

He arrives late the third day.

Manager takes him aside and says, "before you retired, what would they say at your old job when you arrived late for work?"

Man says "Good morning General, what would you like in your coffee?".

elleng

(131,457 posts)
3. #Nobska Point lighthouse, Cape Cod, Massachusetts,
Sun May 28, 2023, 12:02 AM
May 2023

Lynde Point lighthouse was constructed with a tall tower in Old Saybrook, Connecticut,

Warwick Neck, Kent county, Rhode Island,

Cleveland Harbor lighthouse,

The others are Penfield Reef lighthouse in Fairfield, Connecticut, Stratford Shoal light in the middle of Long Island Sound between New York and Connecticut, and Keweenaw Waterway Lower Entrance light in Chassell, Michigan.

Straw Man

(6,628 posts)
8. Keweenaw Waterway Lower Entrance light in Chassell, Michigan?
Sun May 28, 2023, 04:20 AM
May 2023

I spent the first seven years of my life in Chassell, Michigan. That light is located at what we used to call Portage Entry -- the entry channel from the big lake (Superior) to the inland Portage Lake. Ore freighters used to come in there to shelter during bad weather on the big lake.

In summers, a Great Lakes cruise ship called the South American used to come in through Portage Entry on its way to Houghton, one of its ports of call. We're talking roughly 1960-61. My family used to pile in the car and drive down there to see her come in. A ship of that size coming into such a narrow channel was a truly awesome spectacle, especially for a little kid.





That was quite a memory blast. I honest don't think I've ever seen the words "Chassell, Michgan" come up on my computer monitor unless it was the result of a search that I initiated myself.

Freethinker65

(10,118 posts)
13. I work retail and just sent an item to Chassell, MI.
Sun May 28, 2023, 07:34 AM
May 2023

Estimated delivery date was two days more than all other items ordered that day, so I asked the customer about where Chassell was located. He has lived near there all his life and was visiting his daughter near Chicago.

Straw Man

(6,628 posts)
17. Wow! Yes, Chassell really is miles from nowhere.
Sun May 28, 2023, 04:43 PM
May 2023

The whole Upper Peninsula is rather remote, and the Keweenaw Peninsula is its remotest part. The area entered a slow decline when the copper mines closed. There is still copper there, but they couldn't compete with strip-mining in Arizona. Besides Michigan Tech (which was founded with mining company money) and Sawyer Air Force Base, there really isn't much there. But it is really beautiful. Hunters, snowmobilers, and various other tourists are the mainstays of the local economy.

Chassell had a population of around 1500 when we lived there. I could probably connect myself to the people you shipped to within two degrees of separation, even though my family left more than 60 years ago.

Grasswire2

(13,575 posts)
4. my ancestors were keepers of the Plum Island NY light for 43 years.....
Sun May 28, 2023, 12:45 AM
May 2023

....ending in 1904, but it's not on the list. And it's lookin' good, too!

TheBlackAdder

(28,262 posts)
5. Plum Island is cool. It will be interesting to see what happends to that.
Sun May 28, 2023, 02:38 AM
May 2023

.

Last I checked, the government was going to hold it for conservation, not even as a tourist spot.

Issues with toxic metals and of course that biological research facility and possibly bio-tainted soils.

.

Grasswire2

(13,575 posts)
16. I have a digitized copy of the log book...
Sun May 28, 2023, 03:10 PM
May 2023

...and yes, the stories are fascinating.

There is a thick book called A WORLD UNTO ITSELF, a history of the island, and it has photos of my ancestors and of the light. Oh, and some photos of pages of the log.

One particularly touching story was that of a little tyke, Emmaline, one of the family members who lived on the island. Three years old, she was playing inside on the lighthouse stairs with her sister. They found some matches, and little tyke's dress caught fire. Her father saw her coming down the steps, ablaze. He rowed her to shore to the doctor, but she couldn't be saved.

I have what we (larger Wetmore family) believe to be the one known photograph of Emmaline -- a studio photo taken a few months prior.

Aside from that, the light then served as a sort of B&B for fancy yachters and fishing parties from NY. My gr grandmother was known for her fried fish and local mushrooms and her pies. Even Grover Cleveland visited, to be taught how to fish, so the tale goes.

Alas, I have never been there, living 3,000 miles away, but I have seen it in the distance from the CT shore.

I highly recommend the book, if you are interested in that history.

10. I've read from people who have acquired old lighthouses before.
Sun May 28, 2023, 04:27 AM
May 2023

Apparently if something isn't completely rusted out, it's made of asbestos. They sound hellish to bring up to any kind of safe standards. I wouldn't want one, that's for sure.

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