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smccarter

(145 posts)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:33 AM Nov 2012

The great thing about capitolism....

Is that I can take my wallet out and give a business money...

Or I can choose not to ... well.... take my wallet out and give that company money.

I'm not compelled to give anyone money. I earn the dollars that are in my wallet. If Papa Johns, or any other company, does something that I find offensive, I can CHOOSE NOT TO GIVE THEM ANY OF MY MONEY.

Now... I like pizza. I'm a fat man. But I can either purchase pizza from someone else, or I can make my own pizza, or... and this would be hard, but... I could go without pizza. But I would if I couldn't find an alternative.

We certainly can't, individually, take a stand against a coal mining company, but we can take a stand against a company like Papa Johns. I realize that most of their shops are owned by franchisees, but they're still representative of the corporate moron.

Anyone calling themselves an American has the power to stop funding idiots like Papa Johns. I for one will never open my wallet in a Papa Johns ever again.

Shame on them.

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The great thing about capitolism.... (Original Post) smccarter Nov 2012 OP
I'm just glad I don't own a PJ franchise. LiberalAndProud Nov 2012 #1
I was once a huge Styx fan but I went to see them and they screwed us in 1978. brewens Nov 2012 #2
I still have the original band on LP (mint condition) left on green only Nov 2012 #4
And the horrible thing about capitalism is... white_wolf Nov 2012 #3
Ah, but you're probably not correct grasshopper... smccarter Nov 2012 #5
Capitalism is the REASON people can't get healthcare leftstreet Nov 2012 #6
Hmm... smccarter Nov 2012 #7
If the purpose of an economic system, ronnie624 Nov 2012 #9
Capitalism turns a joke "science" like economics into a travesty NoOneMan Nov 2012 #8
Workers only have one form of power: the strike. DireStrike Nov 2012 #10

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
1. I'm just glad I don't own a PJ franchise.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:39 AM
Nov 2012

I wonder if we won't be hearing from franchise owners in the coming days, assuming that Schnatter's words end up biting them in the butt. Any business man who allows politics to interfere with business is not likely to succeed in the long run. He's going to alienate 47% of his clientele if he slices his pizza conservatively, and the other 47% if he slices it liberally. It's bad business. They aren't demigods, they're just men with more money than most.

brewens

(13,590 posts)
2. I was once a huge Styx fan but I went to see them and they screwed us in 1978.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:48 AM
Nov 2012

Over 30 years later and I'm still not over it! I don't have any Styx in my vast collection of classic rock cd's and dvd's. I might pirate some though some day, it'd serve them right!

I didn't even go when I could have gotten in to see Dennis DeYoung less than a mile away from where I live two years ago. Nope! Those guys never get another dime of my money!

When I boycott, I BOYCOTT! I'm with you on the Papa johns!

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
4. I still have the original band on LP (mint condition)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:04 AM
Nov 2012

I track 'em with perfection using a Shure V15, type IV, with an elliptical stylus @ 1.25 G's. Sounds so sweet!! LOL

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
3. And the horrible thing about capitalism is...
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:51 AM
Nov 2012

that it gives one man, the owner of Papa John's in this case, the power to dictate the lives of his employees. Sure, you can boycott, but that does not help the people whose hours are cut back or jobs are lost because of one man's greed.

smccarter

(145 posts)
5. Ah, but you're probably not correct grasshopper...
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:10 AM
Nov 2012

Papa Johns either goes out of business, or complies with the will of their customers. Money talks... bullshit walks.... Hit them where it hurts the most. If we're not willing to do that, then they've won.

The dumb-ass at Papa Johns doesn't realize that he really can't afford to have that type of opinion. While we can't boycott a coal mining operation, we can certainly boycott a restaurant. Eat at home if you have to, but DON'T eat at Papa Johns!!!!

Unless we're willing to take a stand, nothing will change. I hate it for the workers, but I'll hate it more for them if we don't take the stand. They'll benefit in the long run if we/they take a stand.

Short term is just that... we need to think about a future that extends way beyond lunch time.

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
6. Capitalism is the REASON people can't get healthcare
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:38 AM
Nov 2012

...in the first place.

A for-profit system guarantees satisfaction for a few and suffering for millions

Fuck capitalism

smccarter

(145 posts)
7. Hmm...
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:55 AM
Nov 2012

While I absolutely believe that healthcare should be nationalized, and all Americans deserve the right to equal healthcare services... I believe that capitalism is the only form of economics that makes any sense.

The problem today is that our government, and many others, have allowed corporations to grow so large and so powerful to the point of diminished competition. As an example, what internet service company is going to compete with AT&T?

We Americans have allowed this to happen. Stop purchasing goods and services from corporations. Buy food from local grocery stores instead of Wal-Mart. Buy vegetables from the local farmers market, buy hardware supplies from the local hardware store instead of Home Depot. We've created this monster, it's time to kill it.

Money talks and bullshit walks. If you're not prepared to take a stand against the giant companies that run our government, nothing is going to change.

We... are David.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
9. If the purpose of an economic system,
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:12 AM
Nov 2012

is to distribute basic resources, goods and services in an equitable manner, then capitalism fails miserably. If that is not its purpose, then again it fails miserably, because an equitable system is what will be required, in order for human civilization to survive the coming challenges, such as global climate change.

Human economic activity is, by its nature, a thermodynamic system, meaning it converts, utilizes and dissipates matter and energy. As such, it is subject to the Laws of Thermodynamics, and will therefore always function with a net deficit in natural capital, or energy. Capitalist economic theory attempts to convert this inherent deficit of natural capital, into a net surplus or profit, in terms of man made economic capital for society's elites. When a small minority of the human population 'owns' and controls the vast bulk of the world's material and capital resources, it guarantees that there will not be enough left over for everyone else.

The demise of capitalism cannot come soon enough.

 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
8. Capitalism turns a joke "science" like economics into a travesty
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:09 AM
Nov 2012

Im sorry it makes any sense to you.

DireStrike

(6,452 posts)
10. Workers only have one form of power: the strike.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:39 AM
Nov 2012

Boycotts rarely accomplish anything.

I am still not buying papa john's ever again, but just because I personally couldn't stand to. I don't expect anything to come of it.

Vote with your dollars? Yeah that's a great idea... I wouldn't agree to a system where my vote is worth less than others'.

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