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tavernier

(12,388 posts)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:11 AM Nov 2012

I think Husted chickened out of fixing Ohio at the last minute

to avoid going to the hoosecow. Now obviously he didn't get the message to rove who was shell shocked when the fix didn't happen. He might have at least tried to convey it in code, something like Scooter Libby to Judith Miller:

"Hey karl, the aspens are turning. Nudge nudge, wink wink."



Oh, it is pure joy getting a bit of closure after all these years. Sadly too many criminals, too little time.

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I think Husted chickened out of fixing Ohio at the last minute (Original Post) tavernier Nov 2012 OP
I agree. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #1
When they learned it wouldn't make any difference it wasn't worth it to them. kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #2
Yaaa, something was up. ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #3
The Saturday before the election I spent most of ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2012 #4
Well, I'm just going to have to Thank you, ChisolmTrailDem! Cha Nov 2012 #15
Partly true malaise Nov 2012 #19
You're very welcome. By rights ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2012 #26
I sent a tweet to the affect: You can only get away with it if the president loses.. Kahuna Nov 2012 #16
Thanks Kahuna! Cha Nov 2012 #22
Wasn't there some sex stuff with all those aspen roots being engaged in "entangling?" Bozita Nov 2012 #5
Yep. Webster Green Nov 2012 #6
Yeah, Ohio worked out for us, but are they still trying to "fix" AZ? DCKit Nov 2012 #7
it would explain their hubris ... rtassi Nov 2012 #8
I don't know what happened RainDog Nov 2012 #9
That was my first thought... dchill Nov 2012 #10
Karl, we've just been handed this note about Ohio TlalocW Nov 2012 #11
heh heh tavernier Nov 2012 #25
I don't think Husted chickened out. OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #12
Wonder what ever bush thought?! Seeing his very own Cha Nov 2012 #13
Sad. DU ought to just become a UFO site and be done with it cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #14
I didn't believe in Repubs fixing things....until Katherine Harris. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #18
Harper's Magazine made vote rigging their Nov. 2012 cover story RainDog Nov 2012 #20
Thank you for that info, RainDog. No, not even close! We know Cha Nov 2012 #23
I think it WAS fixed. Just not enuf. They fixed it to solve a "close" race, but Obama was Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #17
Yes, that's the speculation that has been put forth. cui bono Nov 2012 #21
I hear he's not done yet piechartking Nov 2012 #24
I agree, completely. hifiguy Nov 2012 #27
 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
4. The Saturday before the election I spent most of
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:22 AM
Nov 2012

the day sending Husted some very nasty tweets, all of them also to relevant hashtages as well as the Justice Department, etc.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
15. Well, I'm just going to have to Thank you, ChisolmTrailDem!
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:19 AM
Nov 2012

I swear the Social Media is Changing Everything!

malaise

(269,004 posts)
19. Partly true
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:19 AM
Nov 2012

the internet has definitely changed the dynamics - M$Greedia can no longer decide what is news and what is newsworthy. On the other hand, social media has had a significant impact on the speed with which we communicate and mobilize.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
26. You're very welcome. By rights
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:19 AM
Nov 2012

the Feds (or some other law enforcement agency) should have paid me a visit. I was that nasty. I've done the same with Trump and others. I just don't give a shit anymore. I want those RWNJs eliminated from our lives. And I'm not really partial to how it's done.

Kahuna

(27,311 posts)
16. I sent a tweet to the affect: You can only get away with it if the president loses..
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:47 AM
Nov 2012

which doesn't appear likely. I saw many menacing tweets that day, reminding him that he risked prison. Yeah, I think he chickened out and rove and mitt didn't know it. THAT's why they were shellshocked.

Bozita

(26,955 posts)
5. Wasn't there some sex stuff with all those aspen roots being engaged in "entangling?"
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:23 AM
Nov 2012

Nudge nudge, wink wink.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
7. Yeah, Ohio worked out for us, but are they still trying to "fix" AZ?
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:56 AM
Nov 2012

I've not been able to get as much information as I'd like, and I've got one of the bestest sources on the Interwebs right in front of me.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
9. I don't know what happened
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:13 AM
Nov 2012

but I am hoping someone told him that if he did the fix he would be busted and, yes, he chickened out.

Of course, it could be that the Republicans were just blinded by their own hubris, but I think that someone was able to figure out how to make him afraid to carry through.

I still hope he faces charges because of the last minute changes.

Whether there was a computer fix planned or not, he had already violated a judge's orders for the voting machines in order to invalidate valid ballots.

dchill

(38,493 posts)
10. That was my first thought...
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:20 AM
Nov 2012

When Karl was stammering about it being too soon too call Ohio. What would make him think that?

TlalocW

(15,382 posts)
11. Karl, we've just been handed this note about Ohio
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:46 AM
Nov 2012

It says, "It's a cold day for pontooning." Karl, do you understand this?
Uh, noooooooooo?

TlalocW

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
25. heh heh
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:23 AM
Nov 2012

"Karl?"

"Just a second... *turns back and covertly checks official repub code ring*... Cold day... hmm... pontooning... Oh Shit!! We've lost the moon!"

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
12. I don't think Husted chickened out.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:03 AM
Nov 2012

I think he defected.

He got a higher price, installed the experimental software patch, and left Karl high and dry on Election night.

This ain't Tiddlywinks.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
13. Wonder what ever bush thought?! Seeing his very own
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:16 AM
Nov 2012

brain on national tv having a Bizarre Meltdown?

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
20. Harper's Magazine made vote rigging their Nov. 2012 cover story
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:19 AM
Nov 2012
http://harpers.org/archive/2012/11/how-to-rig-an-election/

They aren't exactly in the realms of wild-eyed c.t.'s.

It even mentions Bev Harris (tho, I have to admit that I had taken a break from DU when all the Bev Harris stuff happened here.)

Cha

(297,240 posts)
23. Thank you for that info, RainDog. No, not even close! We know
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:39 AM
Nov 2012

the cons would if they could..and, our job is to be ever Vigilant.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
17. I think it WAS fixed. Just not enuf. They fixed it to solve a "close" race, but Obama was
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:07 AM
Nov 2012

too far ahead for the fix to flip the race.

Obama ended up winning by about 2%, I think. He was projected to win by 5%. The missing 3%...okay, let's say it's 2%? That's the fix that was supposed to flip it.

Also, it's probably hard to flip by an exact percentage. They do a bit here and there,and when it's nail biting close, that's when it works. That's why it's used in OH and FL mainly.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
21. Yes, that's the speculation that has been put forth.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:33 AM
Nov 2012

That once he saw it wouldn't make any difference he wasn't going to put his ass on the line. Why should he?

piechartking

(617 posts)
24. I hear he's not done yet
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:54 AM
Nov 2012

Claiming that OH is undeservedly the focus of national attention (hey asshole, we only focused on you because you were attempting to suppress the vote!), he wants to set up a electoral distribution system that awards on the basis of districts. This, in OH's highly gerrymandered districts, will have the effect of the majority of OH's electoral votes going to Republicans.

Can't let the asshole do it, y'all.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
27. I agree, completely.
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:36 AM
Nov 2012

Rover got away with it in 2004. Husted's shenanigans were very much on the radar of a federal judge in Ohio and would have been investigated at length in the vote had come back looking funny. This doesn't require any big conspiracy. The fix needed only Rove and Husted. Husted probably contemplated the distinct possibility that he would be going to man-prison, a/k/a the federal slammer, for an extended stay if that judge had impounded even one vote tabulator. Who in their right mind would spend 10-20 years in the Big House to protect KKKarl's doughy ass? Nobody. There's no honor among thieves.

And in the long run Ohio didn't even matter.

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